Al-Anon Family Group - Al-Anon Family Group

tiredtonite · tiredtonite

Hi Alanon Family, I have had so many changes going on recently it's beginning to feel a bit overwhelming for me. I am not the one initiating these changes but they are things that require my participation. I've been trying to stay in touch with what I'm really feeling, do what is in front of me and remain...

mamalioness · mamalioness

I spoke with my A brother today and it was a conversation I didn't need on top of all the sorrow and loss and grief thrown at me this YEAR!!! so hes going on and on and I just told him how sorrowful I felt because to me?? when Jane died, that was IT for me re: family Hes going on and on about how he "likes to drink.....

Bayley · Bayley

Husband kicked out son last night. My mom said he was going to her house. She said they have to come here to get his things. I am hoping this will be short term if he will agree to counseling and begin the process. I know that is me controlling but I can't stop the fixer in me. I feel broken. Family is broken. Ol...

yanksfan51 · yanksfan51

Good morning Everyone- Today's reading is a focus on how fear can activate our character defects, and how very often fear is triggered by trying to control things over which we have no control. The writer mentions that leaving the present and worrying over the past or future is also a trigger for fear....

mamalioness · mamalioness

my a brother texted me and asked me if we could talk Of course I called him back and we just agreed to disagree on his drinking and we would be a loving brother and sister and basically he said again that he wanted to drink and get drunk but that he loved me and that I was always going to be his sissy and that...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So I am living in this weird space right now. According to one of my last posts (5 days ago), I told my AH that he had 3 choices. Seek treatment Do nothing and leave Do nothing and I will leave b/c I can't live this life anymore. I was officially done...MY bottom! In the meantime, AH's adult nephew has been t...

mamalioness · mamalioness

All my life I viewed life "as I wanted it- dreamed it- wished for it to be" Case in point...my nieces in CA..I have spoken to them re: possibly moving nearer to them and they are telling me all the rent they are gonna charge me, PLUS I have to get rid of my pets because they are "dogged" up according to the ci...

gratefulforafuture · gratefulforafuture

I am new here, but thought perhaps someone has been through something similar to my experience. After many years of trying to come to terms with my husband's alcoholism, I moved out with my 15-year old daughter. I do feel better in my own home, but my image of being able to leave the old "alcoholic impa...

luv123 · luv123

I am making that journey from head to heart with Mom right now because all this family dynamic is triggering old patterns in me. (fear for brother who just got out of detox for 2th time & after nearly dying for second time, anger and sadness & ppl pleasing to compensate over not feeling good e...

mamalioness · mamalioness

Well, tomorrow is the memorial service for my sister..I have called the girls, my BFF, my cousin, and NOBODY is home and I am feeling a bit lonely, so I thought I would stop in and say hello to my recovery mates and check up on how ya'll are doing I'm hanging in there..One day at a time..Also, I decided that I...

NatalieP · NatalieP

How does allowing the alcoholic suffer the consequences fit in with "putting down the sword" if the consequences are that they've done something or said something to cause hurt and anger? 3 years ago my AH & I split up for 6 months then reconciled. During the separation...actually only a day afte...

Sorcha · Sorcha

Good morning all, well my two weeks in my brother's house are up and my daughter and I are going home today. It's been a hard couple of weeks in ways, no contact, well no direct contact, just the neighbour getting the message to me that he went to the hospital with his liver but didn't stay in. I did call the n...

NCJo · NCJo

Hey Everyone! It has been a while since I have been on here. Everyone helped me so much when I was here previously. A little update on my situation- things ended up getting worse with my ABF, so I decided I just couldn't stay in the relationship any longer. I had made up my mind to end the relationship,...

H-MT · H-MT

I'm the only daughter of an alcoholic. Both of my parents are on vacation in Hawaii, my 30+ years of alcoholism mother got pneumonia there and has been in the ICU. She was on a reperaitor last night and they have removed all oxygen and she is breathing on her own. I talked to one of the nurses and he told me th...

Lyne · Lyne

Choices: The reading for today talks about discovering we have choices that we didn't know we had. And, if we are uncomfortable about something, we don't have to do it! The author says that this is true freedom. However, there will be times that we actually do have to do some things that we don't wan...

hotrod · hotrod

The ODAT Reading for today speaks about our tendency to dwell on past hurts and live in self pity and fear. The reading asks why do we continue to hurt ourselves in this manner? Is it because we have a hidden desire to suffer?. The reading points out that living on past hurts only ruins our presen...

hopefloats72 · hopefloats72

Hello all I am a newbie looking for some advice and support. My MIL is a full blown alcoholic. We found out last summer and my FIL confirmed our suspicions. She has to drink to stay level, drinks 24/7, gets up in the night for a drink. She switched to Vodka 5 years ago from her usual drink of rye. Finding out s...

Lyne · Lyne

Hi everyone. I went to an addiction counselor with my A yesterday, and between two talks with my son during the week, and what I shared with the counselor, I SAW how broken my marriage is. And I do have to look at myself, and ask the question, why have I stayed with a person who has hurt me so much? And the a...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

Today my AH was extremely mad at my newest boundaries: You have three choices: 1. Rehab 2. Do what YOU want, but you have to live someplace else 3. Do what YOU want and kid and I will move out at the end of the month. I can't live this way any longer. So I am trying to move towards what is best for ME and my kid. Eve...

hotrod · hotrod

The C2C reading for today 8-12 speaks about the 3rd Step turning our will and life over to the care of HP. The reading suggests that this is thei type of surrender that we need in order to accept the fact that we are not all powerful and in control The quote is from Plato:"Time will change an even revers...

Flyfree · Flyfree

Hi I am struggling today with respect. How am I supposed to show respect to my AH? He does nothing for our relationship except create drama and drain us financially. How do I show myself more respect??? Why is this life placed before me to handle??? I know my HP has to be at work and more will be revealed lat...

Mattie · Mattie

I got this from the Facebook page of Harriet Lerner, who writes about relationships, and I thought it summed up what I've experienced in Al-Anon: "SETTING BOUNDARIES takes so much courage, whether it's with a partner, parent or close friend. Why is it so scary? As we become clearer about what is accep...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So lately I have been examining myself. What did I bring to my marriage, to my adult life, to motherhood. I guess an inventory. Not all inclusive, but I had been thinking about what quality about me makes it almost impossible to deal with my AH? The need to be "right." So, through this program I have learn...

likemyheart · likemyheart

Daughter called me, car was smoking, mine, she pulled over, turned it off, called me - in the throes of a nasty cough/cold I got up and going to pick her up and see what needed to be done to save my car (ha ha ha). Needless to say grubby dressed mom to the rescue? Part way there phone rings, answer it cause its h...

MizzB · MizzB

One thing I have found useful for many years - even before ABF was in my life - is music. I'm not a fan of meditation and mindfulness - I've never really found I can empty my head enough to make it a peaceful time. So I use music instead. I am currently putting together a list of songs that help. I can put them on...

Iamhere · Iamhere

Good morning MIP family - TGIF (Thank Goodness It's Friday)! Today's reading in Courage to Change discusses the importance of meetings and leaning into the Al-Anon program -- especially when we don't want to. It talks about how we all face challenges and when we hit that point where we want to hide u...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So now that I have accepted the realities of living with an alcoholic, really accepted my situation, the last month or so has been livable. What I want? Definitely not. But I successfully use my slogans, attend my meetings, and use the "right" tools when dealing with my AH. I even weathered the storm t...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

My AH went to his immediate boss on Tuesday and told him about his drinking problem and asked for help. His boss had him driven home by a co-worker and told him he would check in on him (phone) the next day. The next day they let him go. i was pretty sure there is some law about that and alcoholism being a 'dise...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

Well, I have been really stressed out over the whole getting the girl into a covered psychiatrist on her insurance plan and HP stepped in. I had a big fight with the insurance company today .. I have no issues with being conflict habituated when things are outside of my control .. absolutely none at all...

MizzB · MizzB

Since my boy dog died, I've been trying to get the girl into routines for when I go out as she's never been alone before. She and boy dog came as a pair and now she wants me to be round all the time which I can't be when work starts in September. Anyway, the signal I"m going out is that she gets cheese. She loves c...

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

So today I get a text at work from AH: "Not going to go to mom's bday thing. I told my boss about my drinking problem... I'll explain what's going to happen when I get home." WTH? So this is the man for the 8 months that I have known about his alcoholism who won't seek help, won't take advantage of his work's su...

Skorpi · Skorpi

Good morning, MIP! Today's reading in Courage to Change is about being who we are. The author describes a feeling of not ever being able to be themself around other people, for fear that others would reject them. The author talks about realizing at an AlAnon meeting that they were not alone in this fea...

Taraxacum1 · Taraxacum1

I'm struggling with my responses to AH when he wants me to pity him or take his side in a situation I often disagree with his assessment of what other people should do or say and feel he is lacking in maturity and empathy when he feels someone is wrong. He comes to me with a story about a person who he feels i...

Iamhere · Iamhere

Today's reading shares about how each of us lives with this disease a bit differently. Meeting discussions regarding housekeeping habits showed how the disease presents and we react. Some members kept a tidy home which gave the illusion of control. Others had clothes, paper, books and more clu...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

A really great girlfriend of mine is in SF, CA .. that's my home city or one of them .. lol .. it's where I was born so I spent a lot of time in Northern CA. It brought about a funny/odd memory I hadn't thought about in years. When I was kid I remember running into my Dad at the airport in SF .. he was catching ano...

Mattie · Mattie

Actually I think it's denial. This is on the part of my A. You may remember that he had a big drinking-related health crisis recently. He wasn't speaking to me, but from what I heard, he only barely pulled through. A month in the hospital, and now he is in a wheelchair. He says he is involved with AA, b...

NatalieP · NatalieP

I just have a question about attending my first meeting. My father has offered to go with me to the meeting tomorrow night. Is that ok? He technically is a "friend" of an alcoholic even if he's actually going more for my support than for my AH. But he does care for my AH a great deal and he offered, I didn...

MizzB · MizzB

Hi, I'm new here but I have been to a couple of al-anon meetings. I just find it hard to get to them at the moment. I'm tired of the alcoholic in my life. When he's sober he says all the right things but then he drinks. He has the memory of a goldfish when he's drunk so I remove myself from arguments and convers...

bzz123 · bzz123

Hello, I am new to this, having gone to two meetings and three 1x1 therapy appointments. I am ready for a change, ready to break the cycle, etc. I know you're not supposed to give me advice, but I am interested in hearing your experiences. My person is still actively drinking and absolutely on the verg...

NatalieP · NatalieP

I am having a very hard time with Step One. While I'm trying to accept that I have no control over alcoholism or its symptoms and that I need to allow the alcoholic to deal with the consequences of his choices, I feel so many consequences effect only me. How do I still take the snide comments and insinuatio...

yanksfan51 · yanksfan51

Good morning Everyone- Today's reading illuminates a problem that many of us affected by alcoholism have: speaking openly and directly (especially about our feelings). The writer describes a camping trip his/her father offered, and then cancellled. The adult child was completely disappoin...

SerenityRUS · SerenityRUS

At least I got a a little more information and some sticker shock as well as my girl got some valuable information. In the form of learning curve .. this is all good. So the GP explained a great deal that the dumb neurologist did not .. ugh. We are not closer to a diagnosis however we at least got her anoth...

tiredtonite · tiredtonite

Please join us! The Alanon meeting has just started in the chatroom. Our topics this morning are "Family Disease that effects everyone" and Open Alanon topic.

PosiesandPuppies · PosiesandPuppies

I posted on another thread re: my AH. My AH's nephew texted me today and told me that AH wants to wait a few days. He then asked me if AH was stalling. LOL! I told him, more than likely. I told him that AH is thinking clearer now, and thinks he can manage this with minimal fuss. My nephew then told me that all th...

atheos · atheos

Tomorrow I will spend about $200 for a used elliptical machine on Craigslist. I can already hear my dad going off about this. "What does she need an elliptical machine for? She's broke! And she just bought an iPhone! And a mattress, and then a topper for the d*mn mattress! Don't DO stupid things like thi...

Isthisreallife · Isthisreallife

I can't do it anymore. I'm fed up. We've been married 7 years and he's been a major alcoholic for 5 years. I am basically a single mother because he's a drunken mess whenever he's home. He's been violent to me while drinking at least 3 times this year. He would never do such a thing sober but he hasn't had a so...

LexieA · LexieA

My attitude stinks! I try to find joy in my life but it seems like anxiety gets the best of me and I feel anger and sad. I didn't want this life so now I have to have a program so I don't go nuts living with an alcoholic. How do you continually turned your life to happy all by yourself?

Junenine · Junenine

i decided i couldn't hold on to my relationship any longer. we had 3 rough years. i was enabling and his disease escalated. i kicked him out. i was (am) heartbroken and traumatized. he went to rehab and then residential program, away for over two months. treatment at the place sucks. we have stayed in t...

Buckeye Girl · Buckeye Girl

First off I want to say I've been an Alanon member for about 3 years. I'm staying at my single adult daughter's condo to take care of her pets because she has entered a 30 day rehab program for the 4th time. Since I live about 1500 miles away, i flew in here about 10 days ago. I helped her get into a treatment fa...

Jean4444 · Jean4444

I was just reading some CAL (al-anon Conference Approved Literature) this after noon and read about something I had not read about before. The 4 M's. They are Managing, Manipulating, Martyrdom and Mothering. From what I read, these four characteristics can go either way for us al-anoners. I though...

Lyne · Lyne

Maintenance Steps: The author talks about Steps 10, 11, & 12, being referred to as "maintenance steps." However, the author prefered to think of them as "growth steps." He/she shared about retiring and having more time for "stinking thinking," but decided to turn this around and use the tim...

Aline · Aline

Hi all. I was at my meeting today, but didn't share about my last big enabling thing, just didn't feel up to it, because honestly I'm ashamed about this almost more than about anything else at the moment. I have reduced enabling my ex-abf drastically during the last year or so, but I still spend quite a lo...

hotrod · hotrod

The ODAT reading for today, August 6 speaks about staying in the moment and appreciating treasures that can be found in the moment and the day. It suggests that if we are intent on building our lives iin a positive fashion we need to focus on living just for the day,and in the moment.IN this manner w...

Sorcha · Sorcha

Hi everyone, so the on/off non live-in alcoholic partner of 4 years has been drinking constantly for 6-8 weeks now. It has been mostly off between us for the last few months, he he's been trying to talk to me but really I just felt like I'd had it, just couldn't cope with it anymore. Then we had a talk a coupl...

MissM · MissM

Today's C2C reading is about resentments, and the way that we tend to keep them burning by re-living and "reahearsing" them to make sure that we still feel justified in the way that we have assigned blame to others and pity to ourselves. It's very liberating to realise that we actually don't have to do t...

a4l · a4l

I can not believe how amazingly well this programme works when we let it. This morning I did something I didn't want to do, was anxious about doing but was able to do by concentrating on principles over personalities. My immediate foo system is immensely alcoholically complicated and every variati...

Jerry F · Jerry F

My eldest son is in relapse and almost every aspect of his life is cracked and falling apart with the latest aspect being his children and his children-in-law. They are drinking and are polishing the alcoholic personalities and might be focusing some animosity our way. We spoke to and passed some...

mamalioness · mamalioness

I see my post on Mattie's boundary post ( A great one, Mattie, thank you) I think I should start a new topic on this one its weird...In my old sick days, I had friends up the ying yang and some were actually GOOD....here??? I get into recovery and it seems my circle has shrunk...like I am in exile or somet...

southernmissgirl9 · southernmissgirl9

Hi, I'm new here. I need some immediate help so unfortunately I have not read all the rules and regulations and FAQs so please forgive me if this topic has already been mentioned. I will try to make this as short as possible but there are details I need to make sure I hit. First off, my husband is a drug a...

bud · bud

Hi MIP Family, I never could have guessed how much last night's meeting would change my life- and started to release me from my suffering. From my last post, I entered the room still shaking from the downward spiral of events (from previous post). I saw familiar faces and some new ones - this group is a g...

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	People Pleasing Makes Me Sick (Preview) Hi Alanon Family, I have had so many changes going on recently it's beginning to feel a bit overwhelming for me. I am not the one initiating these changes but they are things that require my participation. I've been trying to stay in touch with what I'm really feeling, do what is in front of me and remain...	tiredtonite	13	2486	Aug 16, 2017 by tiredtonite
	I just let him go!!!! (Preview) I spoke with my A brother today and it was a conversation I didn't need on top of all the sorrow and loss and grief thrown at me this YEAR!!! so hes going on and on and I just told him how sorrowful I felt because to me?? when Jane died, that was IT for me re: family Hes going on and on about how he "likes to drink.....	mamalioness	16	2431	Aug 16, 2017 by mamalioness
	Pain (Preview) Husband kicked out son last night. My mom said he was going to her house. She said they have to come here to get his things. I am hoping this will be short term if he will agree to counseling and begin the process. I know that is me controlling but I can't stop the fixer in me. I feel broken. Family is broken. Ol...	Bayley	11	3108	Aug 16, 2017 by el-cee
	Hope for Today aug 15 (Preview) Good morning Everyone- Today's reading is a focus on how fear can activate our character defects, and how very often fear is triggered by trying to control things over which we have no control. The writer mentions that leaving the present and worrying over the past or future is also a trigger for fear....	yanksfan51	7	1479	Aug 16, 2017 by Enigmatic
	therapy and changes today (Preview) my a brother texted me and asked me if we could talk Of course I called him back and we just agreed to disagree on his drinking and we would be a loving brother and sister and basically he said again that he wanted to drink and get drunk but that he loved me and that I was always going to be his sissy and that...	mamalioness	7	1132	Aug 16, 2017 by mamalioness
	My Weird Place (Preview) So I am living in this weird space right now. According to one of my last posts (5 days ago), I told my AH that he had 3 choices. Seek treatment Do nothing and leave Do nothing and I will leave b/c I can't live this life anymore. I was officially done...MY bottom! In the meantime, AH's adult nephew has been t...	PosiesandPuppies	15	2944	Aug 16, 2017 by milkwood
	facing reality???? (Preview) All my life I viewed life "as I wanted it- dreamed it- wished for it to be" Case in point...my nieces in CA..I have spoken to them re: possibly moving nearer to them and they are telling me all the rent they are gonna charge me, PLUS I have to get rid of my pets because they are "dogged" up according to the ci...	mamalioness	11	2446	Aug 14, 2017 by mamalioness
	left my alcoholic but still need help (Preview) I am new here, but thought perhaps someone has been through something similar to my experience. After many years of trying to come to terms with my husband's alcoholism, I moved out with my 15-year old daughter. I do feel better in my own home, but my image of being able to leave the old "alcoholic impa...	gratefulforafuture	12	2615	Aug 14, 2017 by Junenine
	Healing Choices & Boundaries (Preview) I am making that journey from head to heart with Mom right now because all this family dynamic is triggering old patterns in me. (fear for brother who just got out of detox for 2th time & after nearly dying for second time, anger and sadness & ppl pleasing to compensate over not feeling good e...	luv123	5	1762	Aug 14, 2017 by luv123
	Stopping in to say "hello" (Preview) Well, tomorrow is the memorial service for my sister..I have called the girls, my BFF, my cousin, and NOBODY is home and I am feeling a bit lonely, so I thought I would stop in and say hello to my recovery mates and check up on how ya'll are doing I'm hanging in there..One day at a time..Also, I decided that I...	mamalioness	6	3203	Aug 14, 2017 by Bo
	Hurt & anger as a consequence? (Preview) How does allowing the alcoholic suffer the consequences fit in with "putting down the sword" if the consequences are that they've done something or said something to cause hurt and anger? 3 years ago my AH & I split up for 6 months then reconciled. During the separation...actually only a day afte...	NatalieP	4	2046	Aug 14, 2017 by Bo
	Going home today.... (Preview) Good morning all, well my two weeks in my brother's house are up and my daughter and I are going home today. It's been a hard couple of weeks in ways, no contact, well no direct contact, just the neighbour getting the message to me that he went to the hospital with his liver but didn't stay in. I did call the n...	Sorcha	6	456	Aug 14, 2017 by Jerry F
	Rehab Support (Preview) Hey Everyone! It has been a while since I have been on here. Everyone helped me so much when I was here previously. A little update on my situation- things ended up getting worse with my ABF, so I decided I just couldn't stay in the relationship any longer. I had made up my mind to end the relationship,...	NCJo	5	1951	Aug 14, 2017 by Iamhere
	When to help (Preview) I'm the only daughter of an alcoholic. Both of my parents are on vacation in Hawaii, my 30+ years of alcoholism mother got pneumonia there and has been in the ICU. She was on a reperaitor last night and they have removed all oxygen and she is breathing on her own. I talked to one of the nurses and he told me th...	H-MT	5	2117	Aug 14, 2017 by Iamhere
	C2C 8/14/17 (Preview) Choices: The reading for today talks about discovering we have choices that we didn't know we had. And, if we are uncomfortable about something, we don't have to do it! The author says that this is true freedom. However, there will be times that we actually do have to do some things that we don't wan...	Lyne	5	2364	Aug 14, 2017 by Iamhere
	ODAT READING SUnday 8-13-2017 (Preview) The ODAT Reading for today speaks about our tendency to dwell on past hurts and live in self pity and fear. The reading asks why do we continue to hurt ourselves in this manner? Is it because we have a hidden desire to suffer?. The reading points out that living on past hurts only ruins our presen...	hotrod	3	1769	Aug 13, 2017 by bud
	alcoholic MIL (Preview) Hello all I am a newbie looking for some advice and support. My MIL is a full blown alcoholic. We found out last summer and my FIL confirmed our suspicions. She has to drink to stay level, drinks 24/7, gets up in the night for a drink. She switched to Vodka 5 years ago from her usual drink of rye. Finding out s...	hopefloats72	2	383	Aug 13, 2017 by hotrod
	Feeling sad today (Preview) Hi everyone. I went to an addiction counselor with my A yesterday, and between two talks with my son during the week, and what I shared with the counselor, I SAW how broken my marriage is. And I do have to look at myself, and ask the question, why have I stayed with a person who has hurt me so much? And the a...	Lyne	12	2776	Aug 13, 2017 by bud
	Needing a hug, I guess (Preview) Today my AH was extremely mad at my newest boundaries: You have three choices: 1. Rehab 2. Do what YOU want, but you have to live someplace else 3. Do what YOU want and kid and I will move out at the end of the month. I can't live this way any longer. So I am trying to move towards what is best for ME and my kid. Eve...	PosiesandPuppies	21	607	Aug 13, 2017 by T Sears
	C2C 8-12 (Preview) The C2C reading for today 8-12 speaks about the 3rd Step turning our will and life over to the care of HP. The reading suggests that this is thei type of surrender that we need in order to accept the fact that we are not all powerful and in control The quote is from Plato:"Time will change an even revers...	hotrod	2	381	Aug 12, 2017 by Iamhere
	Respect (Preview) Hi I am struggling today with respect. How am I supposed to show respect to my AH? He does nothing for our relationship except create drama and drain us financially. How do I show myself more respect??? Why is this life placed before me to handle??? I know my HP has to be at work and more will be revealed lat...	Flyfree	12	663	Aug 12, 2017 by milkwood
	Boundaries (Preview) I got this from the Facebook page of Harriet Lerner, who writes about relationships, and I thought it summed up what I've experienced in Al-Anon: "SETTING BOUNDARIES takes so much courage, whether it's with a partner, parent or close friend. Why is it so scary? As we become clearer about what is accep...	Mattie	22	1838	Aug 12, 2017 by mamalioness
	Self-Examination (Preview) So lately I have been examining myself. What did I bring to my marriage, to my adult life, to motherhood. I guess an inventory. Not all inclusive, but I had been thinking about what quality about me makes it almost impossible to deal with my AH? The need to be "right." So, through this program I have learn...	PosiesandPuppies	13	550	Aug 11, 2017 by mamalioness
	Example: Accepting the things I cannot change..... (Preview) Daughter called me, car was smoking, mine, she pulled over, turned it off, called me - in the throes of a nasty cough/cold I got up and going to pick her up and see what needed to be done to save my car (ha ha ha). Needless to say grubby dressed mom to the rescue? Part way there phone rings, answer it cause its h...	likemyheart	7	579	Aug 11, 2017 by a4l
	Soundtrack to my sanity (Preview) One thing I have found useful for many years - even before ABF was in my life - is music. I'm not a fan of meditation and mindfulness - I've never really found I can empty my head enough to make it a peaceful time. So I use music instead. I am currently putting together a list of songs that help. I can put them on...	MizzB	7	462	Aug 11, 2017 by a4l
	Courage to Change (C2C) 8/11/17 (Preview) Good morning MIP family - TGIF (Thank Goodness It's Friday)! Today's reading in Courage to Change discusses the importance of meetings and leaning into the Al-Anon program -- especially when we don't want to. It talks about how we all face challenges and when we hit that point where we want to hide u...	Iamhere	2	385	Aug 11, 2017 by Iamhere
	Dealing with a new wrinkle... (Preview) So now that I have accepted the realities of living with an alcoholic, really accepted my situation, the last month or so has been livable. What I want? Definitely not. But I successfully use my slogans, attend my meetings, and use the "right" tools when dealing with my AH. I even weathered the storm t...	PosiesandPuppies	12	652	Aug 11, 2017 by MizzB
	PNP Update (Preview) My AH went to his immediate boss on Tuesday and told him about his drinking problem and asked for help. His boss had him driven home by a co-worker and told him he would check in on him (phone) the next day. The next day they let him go. i was pretty sure there is some law about that and alcoholism being a 'dise...	PosiesandPuppies	15	625	Aug 11, 2017 by MizzB
	Good News .. (Preview) Well, I have been really stressed out over the whole getting the girl into a covered psychiatrist on her insurance plan and HP stepped in. I had a big fight with the insurance company today .. I have no issues with being conflict habituated when things are outside of my control .. absolutely none at all...	SerenityRUS	7	463	Aug 10, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	A little light relief (Preview) Since my boy dog died, I've been trying to get the girl into routines for when I go out as she's never been alone before. She and boy dog came as a pair and now she wants me to be round all the time which I can't be when work starts in September. Anyway, the signal I"m going out is that she gets cheese. She loves c...	MizzB	4	426	Aug 10, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	Wow, did he actually hit his "rock bottom?" (Preview) So today I get a text at work from AH: "Not going to go to mom's bday thing. I told my boss about my drinking problem... I'll explain what's going to happen when I get home." WTH? So this is the man for the 8 months that I have known about his alcoholism who won't seek help, won't take advantage of his work's su...	PosiesandPuppies	30	1172	Aug 10, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	C2C August 9 (Preview) Good morning, MIP! Today's reading in Courage to Change is about being who we are. The author describes a feeling of not ever being able to be themself around other people, for fear that others would reject them. The author talks about realizing at an AlAnon meeting that they were not alone in this fea...	Skorpi	7	402	Aug 10, 2017 by tiredtonite
	AH seeking collusion, what can I do better? (Preview) I'm struggling with my responses to AH when he wants me to pity him or take his side in a situation I often disagree with his assessment of what other people should do or say and feel he is lacking in maturity and empathy when he feels someone is wrong. He comes to me with a story about a person who he feels i...	Taraxacum1	6	463	Aug 10, 2017 by Neroli
	Courage to Change (C2C) 8/10/17 (Preview) Today's reading shares about how each of us lives with this disease a bit differently. Meeting discussions regarding housekeeping habits showed how the disease presents and we react. Some members kept a tidy home which gave the illusion of control. Others had clothes, paper, books and more clu...	Iamhere	4	411	Aug 10, 2017 by MizzB
	Putting the "fun" in Dysfunction .. (Preview) A really great girlfriend of mine is in SF, CA .. that's my home city or one of them .. lol .. it's where I was born so I spent a lot of time in Northern CA. It brought about a funny/odd memory I hadn't thought about in years. When I was kid I remember running into my Dad at the airport in SF .. he was catching ano...	SerenityRUS	4	803	Aug 10, 2017 by Jerry F
	Outrageous optimism - or is it denial? (Preview) Actually I think it's denial. This is on the part of my A. You may remember that he had a big drinking-related health crisis recently. He wasn't speaking to me, but from what I heard, he only barely pulled through. A month in the hospital, and now he is in a wheelchair. He says he is involved with AA, b...	Mattie	5	685	Aug 10, 2017 by Bo
	Quick Question about Meetings (Preview) I just have a question about attending my first meeting. My father has offered to go with me to the meeting tomorrow night. Is that ok? He technically is a "friend" of an alcoholic even if he's actually going more for my support than for my AH. But he does care for my AH a great deal and he offered, I didn...	NatalieP	3	368	Aug 9, 2017 by Junenine
	Someone's listening (Preview) Hi, I'm new here but I have been to a couple of al-anon meetings. I just find it hard to get to them at the moment. I'm tired of the alcoholic in my life. When he's sober he says all the right things but then he drinks. He has the memory of a goldfish when he's drunk so I remove myself from arguments and convers...	MizzB	10	469	Aug 9, 2017 by MizzB
	question about enabling - want your experiences (Preview) Hello, I am new to this, having gone to two meetings and three 1x1 therapy appointments. I am ready for a change, ready to break the cycle, etc. I know you're not supposed to give me advice, but I am interested in hearing your experiences. My person is still actively drinking and absolutely on the verg...	bzz123	12	923	Aug 9, 2017 by MizzB
	Stuck on understanding Step One (Preview) I am having a very hard time with Step One. While I'm trying to accept that I have no control over alcoholism or its symptoms and that I need to allow the alcoholic to deal with the consequences of his choices, I feel so many consequences effect only me. How do I still take the snide comments and insinuatio...	NatalieP	23	786	Aug 9, 2017 by El
	Hope for Today Aug 8 (Preview) Good morning Everyone- Today's reading illuminates a problem that many of us affected by alcoholism have: speaking openly and directly (especially about our feelings). The writer describes a camping trip his/her father offered, and then cancellled. The adult child was completely disappoin...	yanksfan51	4	360	Aug 9, 2017 by bud
	More will be revealed .. (Preview) At least I got a a little more information and some sticker shock as well as my girl got some valuable information. In the form of learning curve .. this is all good. So the GP explained a great deal that the dumb neurologist did not .. ugh. We are not closer to a diagnosis however we at least got her anoth...	SerenityRUS	7	447	Aug 9, 2017 by bud
	Wednesday Morning MIP Alanon Meeting (Preview) Please join us! The Alanon meeting has just started in the chatroom. Our topics this morning are "Family Disease that effects everyone" and Open Alanon topic.	tiredtonite	1	351	Aug 8, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	Weird feeling (Preview) I posted on another thread re: my AH. My AH's nephew texted me today and told me that AH wants to wait a few days. He then asked me if AH was stalling. LOL! I told him, more than likely. I told him that AH is thinking clearer now, and thinks he can manage this with minimal fuss. My nephew then told me that all th...	PosiesandPuppies	13	695	Aug 8, 2017 by PosiesandPuppies
	Internalized negative voices (Preview) Tomorrow I will spend about $200 for a used elliptical machine on Craigslist. I can already hear my dad going off about this. "What does she need an elliptical machine for? She's broke! And she just bought an iPhone! And a mattress, and then a topper for the d*mn mattress! Don't DO stupid things like thi...	atheos	10	502	Aug 8, 2017 by SerenityRUS
	I'm done. I'm gone... but (Preview) I can't do it anymore. I'm fed up. We've been married 7 years and he's been a major alcoholic for 5 years. I am basically a single mother because he's a drunken mess whenever he's home. He's been violent to me while drinking at least 3 times this year. He would never do such a thing sober but he hasn't had a so...	Isthisreallife	11	543	Aug 8, 2017 by andromeda
	Attitude (Preview) My attitude stinks! I try to find joy in my life but it seems like anxiety gets the best of me and I feel anger and sad. I didn't want this life so now I have to have a program so I don't go nuts living with an alcoholic. How do you continually turned your life to happy all by yourself?	LexieA	6	727	Aug 7, 2017 by LexieA
	letting go and holding on (Preview) i decided i couldn't hold on to my relationship any longer. we had 3 rough years. i was enabling and his disease escalated. i kicked him out. i was (am) heartbroken and traumatized. he went to rehab and then residential program, away for over two months. treatment at the place sucks. we have stayed in t...	Junenine	20	567	Aug 7, 2017 by Junenine
	I need some perspective please!!! (Preview) First off I want to say I've been an Alanon member for about 3 years. I'm staying at my single adult daughter's condo to take care of her pets because she has entered a 30 day rehab program for the 4th time. Since I live about 1500 miles away, i flew in here about 10 days ago. I helped her get into a treatment fa...	Buckeye Girl	30	1684	Aug 7, 2017 by el-cee
	The 4 M's (Preview) I was just reading some CAL (al-anon Conference Approved Literature) this after noon and read about something I had not read about before. The 4 M's. They are Managing, Manipulating, Martyrdom and Mothering. From what I read, these four characteristics can go either way for us al-anoners. I though...	Jean4444	18	15983	Aug 7, 2017 by mamalioness
	C2C 8/7 (Preview) Maintenance Steps: The author talks about Steps 10, 11, & 12, being referred to as "maintenance steps." However, the author prefered to think of them as "growth steps." He/she shared about retiring and having more time for "stinking thinking," but decided to turn this around and use the tim...	Lyne	6	421	Aug 7, 2017 by mamalioness
	Enabling - money (Preview) Hi all. I was at my meeting today, but didn't share about my last big enabling thing, just didn't feel up to it, because honestly I'm ashamed about this almost more than about anything else at the moment. I have reduced enabling my ex-abf drastically during the last year or so, but I still spend quite a lo...	Aline	16	560	Aug 7, 2017 by Aline
	Alanon Reading 8-6-2017 (Preview) The ODAT reading for today, August 6 speaks about staying in the moment and appreciating treasures that can be found in the moment and the day. It suggests that if we are intent on building our lives iin a positive fashion we need to focus on living just for the day,and in the moment.IN this manner w...	hotrod	13	505	Aug 6, 2017 by DavidG
	Not sure how to handle this, esh please! (Preview) Hi everyone, so the on/off non live-in alcoholic partner of 4 years has been drinking constantly for 6-8 weeks now. It has been mostly off between us for the last few months, he he's been trying to talk to me but really I just felt like I'd had it, just couldn't cope with it anymore. Then we had a talk a coupl...	Sorcha	8	721	Aug 6, 2017 by shrnp
	Courage To Change 5/8- Resentments. (Preview) Today's C2C reading is about resentments, and the way that we tend to keep them burning by re-living and "reahearsing" them to make sure that we still feel justified in the way that we have assigned blame to others and pity to ourselves. It's very liberating to realise that we actually don't have to do t...	MissM	9	1152	Aug 6, 2017 by Aline
	Principles over personalities in all my affairs (Preview) I can not believe how amazingly well this programme works when we let it. This morning I did something I didn't want to do, was anxious about doing but was able to do by concentrating on principles over personalities. My immediate foo system is immensely alcoholically complicated and every variati...	a4l	8	454	Aug 6, 2017 by tiredtonite
	another generation crumbling. (Preview) My eldest son is in relapse and almost every aspect of his life is cracked and falling apart with the latest aspect being his children and his children-in-law. They are drinking and are polishing the alcoholic personalities and might be focusing some animosity our way. We spoke to and passed some...	Jerry F	13	479	Aug 5, 2017 by tiredtonite
	Some stuff I see (Preview) I see my post on Mattie's boundary post ( A great one, Mattie, thank you) I think I should start a new topic on this one its weird...In my old sick days, I had friends up the ying yang and some were actually GOOD....here??? I get into recovery and it seems my circle has shrunk...like I am in exile or somet...	mamalioness	6	462	Aug 5, 2017 by mamalioness
	New here. Help/Advice needed (Preview) Hi, I'm new here. I need some immediate help so unfortunately I have not read all the rules and regulations and FAQs so please forgive me if this topic has already been mentioned. I will try to make this as short as possible but there are details I need to make sure I hit. First off, my husband is a drug a...	southernmissgirl9	11	696	Aug 5, 2017 by Iamhere
	C2C-more revealed after meeting (Preview) Hi MIP Family, I never could have guessed how much last night's meeting would change my life- and started to release me from my suffering. From my last post, I entered the room still shaking from the downward spiral of events (from previous post). I saw familiar faces and some new ones - this group is a g...	bud	9	392	Aug 5, 2017 by bud
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