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your getting sober...and what i forgive you now?!?!?


My A mother has been abusive both physicaly and verbaly to me.  (If you want details look  at my other posts)  This past christmas i or my brother did not go home.  I think that she FINALLY got the point that she was sick and that she was going to loose her family. my dad even said enough was enough.  I had a letter to send to her telling her that i was going to cut her out of my life if she did not get sober.  BEFORE i had sent it (yesterday to be exact)  she checked herself into a 28 day program. 


Here is the problem, im bitter and angry.  I dont know where this came from.  as of two years ago i was fine ready to move on and forgive....then her sickness got worse.  the sight of her grosses me out and i cant stand to look at her.  I have no respect for her and her presence bothers me (honestly, its hard for me to admit that but it is the truth)  and im mad. 


So now that she is getting help everything is just FINE?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  no its not fine.  i realize that she is sick but.........that doesnt mean that the stuff never happened.  It doenst make the fact that she told my husband not to marry me cause i was a fat pathetic slob who couldnt take a punch fine!?!?!?!  okay......stop


no one wants to entertain the idea that maybe her and i just dont get along.  she hasnt asked for a relationship but i know shell want one...im not sure i can give her what she wants...and i dont care....but other people in my family does......


im just frusterated and cautious.  just cause she is in rehab doesnt mean shes gonna get a hold of this thing.....


thanks for reading this.....i need to vent.


 



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"So now that she is getting help everything is just FINE?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Why is it they do not seem to understand that just because they are getting help and maintaining their sobriety (for now at least) that all should be "fine?" NO!! Everything is NOT fine. They cast aside all the hurt they have caused as if it doen't even matter anymore; like you do not remember. I understand your post so well, because I feel the same way as you. AlAnon teaches us how to deal with the resentment and anger that will not go away. I am still trying to learn that lesson...without much success I might add.

Continue to be cautious. But do take care of yourself and your needs. They come before Mom's.

With great caring and understanding, Diva

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Caution is a good thing. And I agree, just because they are now getting help doesn't mean everything is suddenly "just fine." It truly is a family disease... how it effects all of us....drinkers and nondrinkers.

I will share from the other end of this... I used to be the out of control mom. No, I didn't drink. I had a tendency to lose my temper though. My oldest son mostly bore the brunt of this. He was probably around age 8 when it started. I would walk in his bedroom (which he shared with his younger brother), it would be a mess, I'd tell them to clean it up.... later I'd see it was still a mess, I'd get mad, I'd slap him.

I can, to this day, clearly remember the first time I slapped my 2nd son on the face. He looked at me with this look of shock like "I can't believe you did that." That look still haunts me.

When my oldest son was in Junior High (Middle School), I sent him to live with his father. I just could not handle him anymore and thought perhaps it would be good for him to be with his father. He seemed to do better there. I moved to another state and ended up going to a counselor. By then I had 2 more children. This counselor, bless her, told me I could not "fix" my kids until I "fixed" myself. I had to learn about healthy discipline, consistency especially. I had to really make the time to be truly involved with my children, to sit down and make sure they did homework, etc. It worked. My actions finally followed through with my words. Consistency.

My oldest son moved back in with us. He was 17 by then. I was no longer the out of control mother who would fly off the handle and slap. But ya know what? Any time I raised my hand (gesturing in speech), he would cringe away. He is 24 now and still flinches, even at work when someone moves their hand/arm quickly. I can not even begin to tell you how that makes me feel. Another thing to haunt me, another thing I have to try and forgive myself for. He already has forgiven me. But I must forgive myself. He and I have talked about our past. I've apologized for my part. But the most important part of this is not just my saying "I'm sorry".... the most important part is my "amends of action"... my changing my own behavior and NEVER repeating that type of behavior again.

He too had much anger and resentment. Rightfully so. I acknowledge that. We spoke about that in our talk. By then I'd also had a few years of Al-Anon under my belt. I told him he could do as I have done and am doing. Choose to change and live a happy life, or hold onto the anger/bitterness/resentment and be miserable. I can not change the past anymore than he can. But I can change today and all my tomorrows to come, just as he can. He's seen the change in me. He was able to see what I was saying. He chose to change too.

I am very fortunate. I love my son. He loves me. We have a good relationship now. It has taken time though. Time, love, consistency.

I know you are hurting. I totally understand that (my own father was a rageaholic in his younger days.) I truly hope you are able to work through the hurt. There is a wonderful chapter in How Al-Anon Works on Detachment, Love, and Forgiveness (P.83). The last paragraph on P. 87 really sums up forgiveness in a wonderful eye-opening way. Why it is important to do it for our own sake of mind.

Your mother has a long road ahead of her. She too, if she continues in recovery, is going to have to face up to her part.

I wish the best for both of you. As Diva said, do take care of yourself first. You are worth it. (((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))

Luv, Kis

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((Klutz)),


Congratulations to your Mom entering rehab that is awesome for her - I pray that she will continue her road to recovery.


Now, having that said - let's focus on you.  Of course you're angry, hurt, sad, fearful, and every other emotion in the book.  You have been thru a lot and have some deep scars that will take time to heal.  Just as after surgery, you need to pamper your physical body for healing - you need to do what is right & healthy for you to heal your emotional health.


Therapy, counseling, Al-Anon meetings (on-line or f2f), family week, reading literature, journaling and other support avenues are great at helping anyone work thru these feelings.  You can tell your Mom just like you told us - "I understand you have a disease, but I need some more time to process what has happened".  You can tell your family "I'm working on it, but I'm not ready yet."  and then end the conversation. 


The beauty of recovery for everyone is choices.  You have the choice to work thru these feelings at a pace that is right for you - not the way your Mom wants you to, not the way your family wants you to - the way you & your HP deems necessary for you. 


It will be tough, but rest assured that you have the support of the MIP family, the love of a HP and your inner strength.  You will be ok - even better than OK.


Take it One Day at a Time,


Rita


PS  - Kis - thank you for your honest & revealing reply - I am humbled by the awesome work you did to become a better person.  I can relate to that rageaholic.  I was there too.  I say many times "I am a recovering thrower"  I threw many a object across the room in my day.  I am grateful that my HP is helping me work thru those anger issues also.  So grateful my grandchildren have no idea about the crazy woman I used to be!! - Thanks, Rita



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As you can see, you are not alone.  There are many people in this world who have experienced the same things that you have and who also run into people who simply cannot understand.  The people who do not understand are not trying to be hurtful.  They simply cannot fathom what you are able to comprehend.  You understand that abuse is damaging, you understand that you must protect yourself and those you love, and you understand that you cannot have a normal and happy relationship with someone who is abusing you.


It is incredible, but many people do not understand this.  Many people will try to find a way to make the abuser love them.  Many people will try to find ways to accept absuvie behavior.  Many people will continue to try year after year to change the abusive person. 


It takes a very emotionally strong person to face the fact that you don't have to love an abusive person and it may be impossible to have any sort of relationship with an abusive person.  It takes a person who has confidence in themselves and has a healthy sense of self-worth to understand that it is never alright to accept abusive behavior.  And it takes a person who possesses reason and logic to understand you can only control yourself you cannot control someone else's behavior.


So, Klutz (and you are not a Klutz) self-analysis should show you that you are the very essence of an emotionally strong, confident, capable, reasoning human.  Why then would you care what some stuipd person thinks who doesn't understand your position?  Let those people deal with the abuse.  That must be what they want and is obviously what they deserve.  You, on the other hand, know better.  And you have been able to figure out how to escape that future.


Good luck to you.



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((((((((klutz))))))),


It's part of their sickness that they don't realize it, yet.  Through good recovery and hopefully counceling they will realize it.


It's okay to be bitter and angry. Just don't let it eat you up. You know it's also okay not to like your mother.  There are no rules to this.  I was very blessed to have a loving relationship with my parents.  But others don't have that good fortune.  Just because they are related to you, doens't mean that you have to love them.  Do what is best for you. Keep working your program and recovery.  If there comes a time and point where you want a relationship with your mom then so be it.  But don't let anyone demand that you have too.  Remember we didn't walk in your shoes.  My hubby had an abusive Mom, and he feels the same way.


Love and blessings to you and your family.


Live strong,


Karilynn & Pipers Kitty



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