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Trying to maintain balcance (not really sure if this will make any sense)


Hi all,


I was thinking this morning about my work, my program, and balance.


You see I work in the social service field (using my codie ways to help the world, lol)  and alot of our participants have substance abuse issues or are the loved one of someone with a substance abuse issue. And my struggle with this ( and I am not sure if it is a balance of keeping the traditions or a boundary issue) is that often times feel the need to reach out and discuss the help that one can get in a 12 step program any 12 step program. 


Each conversation is different, and in some I feel the need to tell the person I am talking to that I am in alanon. I do this not to come off as an expert or have a holier-than-though attitude, but to show the person that I really and truley can empathize with them. Ok, my struggle with that, if I do this 1) I am breaking the annonymity of my hubby in a sense. Or am I really, at one time he was a member of NA/AA, but today chooses to stay away. So am I really to protect his annonymity. We don't live in a small town, but being in social services I am getting to know my community on a much closer level. 2) If I talk about my involvment in the program, am I promoting the program and not attracting the program? 3) Could I be bringing the name of AA/Alanon/NA/Alateen (really those are the four 12 step programs that come up the most) into an outside issue (My agency)?


I am very, very careful to reveal myself as a member and to not give advice. I share my ESH and tell the person that if they ever want to get to a meeting, then they know where to find me and I will help them get to a meeting.


My "coming out" as a member of alanon has helped me when working our people. In the past I was assigned to work with our participants that have alcohol/subsatnce abuse/alanon issues. My supervisor knows of my activity in program as well.  


I have a tendancy to over complicate things (hehe a true codie) and I realize that I may be doing just that. I am not sure why it hit me this morning like it did. LOL maybe I shoudl start singing in the shower instead of thinking in the shower. But if I truly want to bring the program into all my affairs, which I do, there has to be a balance in there somewhere.  Or is it balanced already and my thinking is imbalanced (which since I am pretty sick in the head could be the whole issue itself)


So at this time I am right where I am supposed to be, one very confused, trying to work her program, share the message, maintain good boundaries, asking for help, alanon memeber. And there is comfort in the fact that even if I don't know the answers HP has me right where he wants me and in his time I will find my answers.


Yours in recovery,


Mandy


 



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 If I understand your post, what I'm hearing is that "How do I protect the anonymoty of others, while sharing the message of al anon?" 


 In truth I haven't met anyone that hasn't gone into this field w/o having some how become associated with it. There are numerous alcholics that are now substance abuse councelors themselves; and you are a witness to the fact that families of the dysfunction can be witnesses to the family substance abuse counceling. When we discuss the anonymoty of al anon, what we're really asking about is that 1) we don't keep a membership roster--at no time is anyone gonna find any paper work any where that says who was where when at which meeting; 2)we discuss our organization in a general way, emphasising attraction not promotion--we use advertising gimmicks such as "is some one's drinking tearing your life apart? Al anon can help!"; "do you feel painted in a corner by someone's drinking? Ala teen can help!". These kind of slogans only offer to someone *who could click with them, someone whose life actually has been affected by another's drinking* a sense of, "Hey! Don't walk the road alone! Ever heard of al anon?" And ultimately, if you notice, these advertisements run in magazines, on TV, on radios *only in Sept, when our confrence has agreed to use funds, encourage the groups and designate members to go out and publicly discuss al anon; this is our public out  reach month when we give out literature to the professional community, when we beef up our meetings as an attempt to out reach, et cetera. After Sept, that's it.*   We consider "the seed planted" and let go, let god.


 As for your concerns about "attraction not promotion" keep in mind that alcholics find themselves in AA because of their liver, their lover, or their lawyer: someone, with some percieved power over them tells them "Get sober or else." You're not necessarily in that situation but what you are saying is, "I go there. They've given me solutions to manage my life. I've found ways to live with my life." And ultimately, remember, we may be the only symbol of the 12 steps someone ever sees.


 Lastly, about your husband--the only time I've ever heard someone genuinely express concern about their anonymoty was a high class atty who knew he had a drinking problem, and wanted help. But he refused AA because he didn't trust the people. The vast majority of the alcholics I've met take the attitude of "My biggest secret was the one I kept from myself, and I was the only one that didn't know it." You're not your husband. Your fine.



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Dear Mandy,


I think you are just following the 12th step.


You are committed to sharing your gifts and carrying the message of Al-anon.  You practice the principles of Al-anon in all of your affairs. 


I have read many of your posts and appreciate your service during the on-line meetings.  As a new-comer you have offered me inspiration.  Keep doing what you are doing....


Karen (aka beachgrl)



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hi dear, I feel you are doing wonderfully.


If this were me, I would ask my employer if it would be ok to have alanon and AA pamphlets on my desk to give out.


You don't have to reveal you are in alanon.


You could say, you know 12 step programs can help everyone. All of us know someone who has the disease of alcoholism. Believe me, I relate.


This is wonderful of you to care. As far as being Codep. as long as you are not giving too much of yourself and exausted, you are doing your job with your heart and your skills.


Same goes with anyone in social services, nurses, doctors, counselors and even teachers.


If you can go home and leave the job at work, great! If not, then only you know where you must make boundaries.


Hugs. love,debilyn



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((((Dolphin123))))


I could see where someone in your possition "could" breach some boundries in the name of service, but from what I read I don't think you do.  Heck, I am a manager in a computer company and I have brought it up to a few here.  Careful to stay informational, just like you said.


I think you must be wonderful at your job... sure been wonderful here!


Take care of you!



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I think its pretty simple to keep the A's anonymity in a situation where you're introducing Al-Anon to someone. We don't need to say who is the alcoholic, we can simply say a friend or family member (if we even feel it necessary to say that much).

I was first introduced to Al-Anon when I was sitting outside my office having lunch and another secretary sat down with me. I was upset about something and must have mentioned the alcoholic situation. This woman told me she could totally understand, she had experienced a lot of problems also in her previous marriage, she simply began to share her story with me and said that she went to Al-Anon which "saved her life". Looking at her that day, you would never have thought she'd gone through the hell we go through without any recovery, I mean here she was this bright, happy, laughing, engaged to be married to a wonderful man who loved her daughters as his own, funny, compassionate, simply lovely woman. Her life, the one she was living that very day, reflected her program. Attraction, not promotion. I never brought the subject up again, she never pushed it on me again. She did always ask how I was when we'd see each other.

I didn't go to Al-Anon right after that. It took me another 2 years to get here. But she planted the seed. That's all it took. One simple share over lunch. I will always be grateful she opened her heart to me and shared her story.

Luv, Kis

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I know for me not having everyone know who I am makes it easier for me to say what I feel deep down. I think I held alot of stuff inside because I felt like when I was talking to others about my A that I was burdening them with my problems. This was before the program. Now everyone I know knows I am in the program including my employer. Hard to hide the fact that I am not a doormat anymore, honestly a wonderful feeling of being free and finally say what is on my mind. I finally realized that being too nice and letting people take advantage of you isn't a good thing. 


Here online I prefer a bit of annonimity, because I want one place that I can really feel safe and know that for me it is all program and no one will judge me or think bad of me or my A. Whatever the outcome with my A. For me alot of my family and friends have made there opinions on my relationship with my A. But in the end it is for my HP to decide. Believe me would love to know how it all works out before hand but then again that is my need to be able to control the situation. I am not trying to do that anymore. All I know is my HP gave me the path to someone with the voice to show me the way to get in recovery if I decided I was ready. I was and now I am here.


But as far as others in the program. I respect their annonimity just like I hope they will respect mine. I know not everyone will like everyone here, but there is a special kind of love for all before they even have meet us. But I hope that working the steps together I can learn and grow from others and share some of my growth and experiances too.


One Day at a Time,


Do



-- Edited by DoN4me at 15:48, 2006-08-18

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