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Child Visitation and the A - Help!


I have a question about visitation and the A, Please read my post and share with me and experience and advice you may have re: the situation.


I originally posted this thread:


"I had my Baby!"


http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=42727&p=3&topicID=7580010&subForumID=94433&topicPage=


Thanks guys!


 



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Hi hun,


I've been thinking about your situation and though I'm not familiar with your personal cicumstances, in light of what the visitation officer said and knowing that the disease is progressive I would personally be reluctant to do more than meet my legal obligation, if any, towards honouring your A's parental rights. You also said you can't really afford a lawyer so I would be hesitant to start something that may become lengthy, legal wrangles. I think a pertinent question to ask yourself is 'As his illness progresses, would I be willing to leave our daughter in his unsupervised care?' Obviously, if he seeks recovery the situation could be reviewed.


I also say this as a child of a dysfunctional family. I clearly remember thinking as a youngster that it would have been better to have one happy parent than two warring factions. My Dad made many promises he couldn't keep and this contributed to my trust issues in later life. I remember the disappointment of him promising to take me somewhere or do something and then it not happening. Though my Mum tried to protect me from this sort of thing, it failed to stop my little heart breaking over and over and this I believe contributed to my self-esteem issues. If I were more lovable etc then my Daddy would want to be with me. In time he left the family and I ended up with abandonment issues that I failed to recognise until I was in Al-Anon. My Dad also had a temper and I remember people 'walking on eggshells', not wanting to trigger an outburst. Though my Dad wasn't physically aggressive towards me I remember the fear my brothers had and I often expected conflict and would try to intervene or diffuse the situation. I understand today he was doing the best he could with what he had. For me, it comes down to 'Is it better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?' and I still can't answer that. I love my Dad dearly but his behaviours were emotionally damaging for me. I don't lay all the blame for my dysfunction at my parents doorstep but I do have to acknowledge the part they played in it. If I hadn't found Al-Anon I don't think I could've worked through these issues as I actually didn't realise that these things were still affecting my life today. One good thing about becoming aware of a problem is that you can then do something about it.


With regards to myself and my A, I chose to remain childless as I have a medical condition and when that improved to the degree where we thought I may be recovered enough to parent a child well, I sensed the sickness in our lives and didn't want to knowingly bring a child into that. At the time I made the decision, I didn't know we were dealing with alcoholism. There are occasions when I am grateful for that decision and others when I regret not being a Mummy. With hindsight, it was the right decision for us as my health follows a pattern of relapse and remittance and I would have found it particularly difficult to be a single parent coping with the repercussions of alcoholism on my life. My A and I separated, divorced and then reconciled. My A is now in recovery so I have to believe that was God's plan for us.


Only you can make the decisions that will affect yours and your little ones life as you are the one who will have to live with them. It is perfectly understandable that your depression and anxiety will be heightened by the stress of the situation so I will send prayers for you. These are just my views and my experience, take what you like and leave the rest and I hope it helps in some small way. I also hope that others who have had visitation/custody situations in their lives may be able to respond and give you some more useful insights.


In love and support,


x  Maria  x



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Ria


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Me again!


I've just been reading the board. Richard posted 'What If?' He has deleted his post but the replies touch on visitation issues. Maybe these will help or you could pm a member who replied to ask them specifically for their ES&H. Just another thought. X



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My sons bio father was a crack addict.  I was advised not to put his name on the birth certificate. That way the bio could have nothing to do with my son unless he established paternity at his expense. Of course I couldn't collect child support either. But, hey, probably wouln't have gotten it anyway. I have not seen or heard from bio since. That was 15 yrs ago. (famliy tree projects at school aren't that difficult. Remember ...It takes a village to raise a child... You would be amazed to know friends loved to be called aunt and uncle) My son had questions about his bio father around the age of nine / ten and I eased around them til I thought he was mature enough to handle the truth which I told....the truth. I feel my son  is better off not knowing his addic bio father. So I do not regret my decision.  


I hope my experience was helpful but not influential. Only you can decide what is best. I only suggest you take care of you so you can care for that precious baby girl. 


sld 



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Wow Ladies! Thanks so much for your responses! It really means alot to me. Your prayers and support are so meaningful!


I have to run... (Hungry Baby)!!



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((((((((((((((Poodles))))))))))))))))))),

Congratulations on your baby girl!!!!!!!!! Newborns are God's angels. Their innocence and vulernability needs our protection.

They say "hindsight is 20/20" or "Monday morning's quarterbacking always wins the game." So this is just my opinion of what I wished my life had been.

I wish I had not grown up with an A father. I wished my father had been what I thought other's had ~ a daddy to be there, to do teas with, to go on picnics with, Daddy's little girl, etc. etc. He wasn't. He couldn't. Never in his life. I often wished my mom had thrown him to the curb. Sure we wouldn't have had a Dad like others in school, but as others share, I didn't have one anyway. When he showed up, he was drunk. The Town knew him as a womanizer and a drunk. Sooooooooooooooooo it was the dream of what a Dad should be.

I won't tell you what to do. I only wanted to share what it was like from a child's standpoint. I would have much rather have had a healthy mother (one parent) than what I had (above) and a mother who spent a lot of energy trying to make him be what he couldn't and sometimes being too tired for us.

We in Alanon have "take what you liked and leave the rest" I just can't envision letting an addict hold any baby. IMHO, it's not safe for those precious gems God gives us.

yours in recovery,
Maria123

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Ria,
Thanks for sharing what you experienced. Thanks to everyone who has responded.


The A didn't show today, or call. He had called and come to see her on the past two Saturdays.
She is three weeks old today. I hope this is indicative of the future and he won't stick around.
I'm relieved and hoping the trend will continue, but anxious b/c he might show up at any time and I don't really know what's going on w/him (do we ever know?). I didn't call him to check if he was planning to come b/c I didn't want to encourage him. After his eyes rolling back in his head last week, I still need to give him a good talking to. I wonder if its because he knows I know and that's why he didn't call? He knows how I feel about it, and may know I'm going to have something to say. I don't know. I worry so much. I'm afraid of his temper, and at the same time I don't have any "proof" of anything. I'm afraid of getting in trouble if I deny him seeing the baby, well he hasn't established paternity so maybe I wouldn't. He does have a criminal record that goes on for days, court ordered anger management, etc. but not re: me, but maybe that would be enough. Ugh.


 



-- Edited by twopoodles at 19:26, 2006-07-08

-- Edited by twopoodles at 19:29, 2006-07-08

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He called last night and he came by this morning. He was appropriate in his speaking. It was awkward because my X, my seven year old son's dad was here visiting and the big jerk sat in the living room the whole time making things strange. The A said he had to work yesterday, he also said that he got some clothes at a garage sale, but he told me about the clothes yesterday???


Anyway, when I mentioned to him on the phone that I didn't want to see the eyes rolling back in the head, etc. it made me uncomfortable he didn't comment, then before he got off the phone he said he was really tired and that's what it was. Um, Ok.


Sorry for dumping out on here but I'm totally stressed. My son's dad is a big jerk and he is in my house but making comments that are so disrespectful. He's also incredibly jealous of the baby and still believes that I left him for the A. (X is a gambling addict and verbally abusive). For the sake of my son I am trying to grin and bear it but I am sooooo angry at him for being such a jerk. X is visiting from out of town, he lives about 2000 miles away. I was nursing the baby and my back was to the window when the A went outside for a few minutes, I heard a car crank and asked my son to look out of the window and tell me if that was him leaving, well the X grabbed him and wouldn't let him look out the window. Then he proceeds to tell me (after I call him an Ass and tell him he shouldn't undermine me like that) that I am still in love w/the A, blah blah blah but the A doens't love me. Ugh. He's so stupid. I don't like either of them. Anyway, I told him he needed to get a hotel. My son didn't want to go to a hotel so he told me we needed to get past it for the sake of my son. He's such a jerk. He comes into my house and criticizes everything, then he tells me how I got used by the A, etc. etc. But he doesn't know the details or what he's talking about, he's just being hurtful.
I think he's so immature, he hasn't even really acknowledged the baby (jealous/threatened/hurt).
I have more to say but I'll stop here. I appreciate you letting me vent and sorry if it doesn't make sense or is tangential. Sigh. I was feeling pretty good too.



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