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In Desperation


Hello to all.  I am a new member; just signed up.  I've spent the last several hours reading everyone's posts and it has motivated me to reach out for the help I so desperately need.  My story is very similar to others I've read, so I will spare you the gorey details.  I am a mother of two, ages 13 and 11.  My husband and I have been married for 22 years and he's been an extremely heavy drinker/alcoholic for at least the last ten.  It is a nighty occurrence for him to start drinking the instant he arrives home from work, if he hasn't a one or two before leaving work.  He drinks a few beers, but as he's downing those, he has a large bottle of whiskey that he sips right from the bottle.  Inevitably, after about five beers, he starts heavily on the whiskey.  I must point out that he is not normally abusive in a physical way, but on a couple of rare occassions, I have been subjected to having objects thrown at me. (Luckily his aim was off.)  He frequently is verbally abusive.  Each night he passes out in the dining room chair well before 9:00 p.m.  He isn't abusive to the kids other than the fact that they are watching him slowly destroy himself.  They have to walk past him, passed out in the dining room chair, as they proceed to the bathroom or the kitchen.  They're both usually very good at ignoring it, but at the same time I realize they must be suffering the effects also. The entire story is a very sad,  very ugly one.  He is overbearing and controlling; I have to ask for money when I need it, he has control of the bank accounts and always has plenty of cash in his pocket while I have none to get a gallon of milk unless I ask for it.  He has a lot of 'friends' who just  happen to be 20-30 year old single females, all of them alcoholics also.  He owns his own business, so it's not uncommon to find these 'friends' hanging out under the pretense of answering his phones or sweeping the floors.  I grew up with an abusive alcoholic father and watched my mother live in fear of his every move.  He controlled her, even up the the amount of medication she was taking for cancer pain.  Until the very moment she died three years ago, he had the reins.  She suffered terribly because he wouldn't let her have her medication.  It hasn't been until the last couple of years that I've realized that I have only taken over where my mother left off.  I never speak up for myself, never make waves, take all the abuse handed to me.  He's been arrested three times that I know of for sexual assaults, each time managing to get off with a slap on the wrist because the girls pressing charges either were too drunk to show up in court or decided not to persue it.  I could go on FOREVER listing the woes of my life.  Most of all, I really abhor the person I have become because of this.  I realized I never even use my own mind anymore; I let him make decisions for me, tell me what I can and cannot do.  He's a master manipulator, often making me doubt myself when I do find that rare spout of courage to stand up for myself.  I've been accused of infidelity, probably because of his own guilty conscience at being unfaithful.  I have lived in a veritable shell since my first child was born; they are my life and the only bright spots I have.  I attended AlaTeen meetings regularly while growing up and finally decided that I can't sit back and be miserable anymore.  I looked for an AlaNon group near me, and unfortunately, none were geographically possible.  I found this website this afternoon and have impatiently waited until I was able to post tonight.  I suppose what I'm asking for is help in realizing that I didn't create his alcoholism.  I'm sure there are underlying causes for why he is destroying himself, but to be frank--and I feel guilty for feeling this way--I am beyond the point of caring why he drinks.  He admits to being an alcoholic but steadfastedly refuses to seek help.  He has said several times that he knows I'll leave him because of his alcoholism, but he can be secure in saying that knowing that I don't have the means to take my kids and leave.  My family all live across the country and they are not in positions to help me financially.  I am embarrassed to have ended up in the situation I find myself in.  I wonder if I'm even making any sense at all??  I spend most of my time as confused and uncertain as one can be, not to mention desolate, as I can see no positive change in the near future. I know I have to focus on myself and my kids, but sometimes that becomes dauntingly hard to do.  How do I get started? 
Thank you all for letting me vent here.  I haven't told anybody the state of my life and holding it in for so long has certainly become burdensome.


 



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Welcome to MIP ~

Great first step, keep coming

-- Edited by Maria123 at 00:48, 2006-07-01

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I went to a face to face meeting and got some newcomber literatrue and information packets. I heard how others were in a similiar situation as I was. You can also get the packets on line through the WSO (world service office) alanon office. There are daily alanon reading books which helped me alot too that you can purchase on amazon.com. Courage to change is one I use. I like my Paths to Recovery book too which helps me work my program. The best help was going to meetings, online or f2f. I also read other's posts here under search method and learned alot too. Welcome and you are no longer alone :) cdb

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Hi Losinghope!  And thanks for sharing your story!  I could relate to so much of what you said and where you are right now!  I have been through those deperate times and felt hopeless, helpless, lost, angry, afraid, evrything imaginable.  It's what got me into the Al-Anon program, though.  That's what it took!  And I can only say that I have been glad and grateful ever since, even though still challenged on many levels as I go through my own recovery.  Now I have tools and some perspective, thanks to working with the program, going to meetings, reading all the literature I can get my hands on, keeping a journal, and most important of all, sharing my feelings with safe people!


There IS hope!  You are starting out on an incredible journey to finding a stronger and happier you.  But it requires patience and time, and doing it One Day at a Time!  In our "instant gratification" culture, this doesn't come naturally to some of us!  But I can honestly tell you, it is so worthwhile!  Find a face-to-face meeting as soon as you can, and stay connected here.  You are amongst safe people who have "been there"!


Good luck and keep coming back!


Love,


Seachange



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I can definitely relate to carrying on the family tradition. My family had a tradition of codependence.  I took it on.  I have to say I have been here 6 months now. I am still with the A.  I have not "left" yet.  Al-anon has allowed me the tools to stop having the guilt and resentment that crippled me. 


I can certainly relate to feeling trapped as well.  This message board has helped me immensely.  I cannot say how much peace, serenity and acceptance it has given me.  I think you will find great solace here if you keep posting and reading.  Many of us suffer from being last.  My boyfriend does not "cheat" but his friends take precedence over everything.  I have dealt with jealouosy and animosity in that regard. I used to really get very very angry.  I no longer 'lose it' on the same level at all. 


I do so hope you will try this group for a while and think about coming to the meetings in the mornings and at night. I appreciate that may be difficult with the family.  Members here recommend many books that also help to get one through the perspective of being "detached".  One of them is Getting them Sober which is apparently superb.  I currently read conventional texts on codependence which help me immensely.  I also take actions every day to help me, to make me feel better, to take care of me.  Many of us have become self abnegating and forgot how to take care of ourselves.  I have an automatic reflex to take over responsibility to be over involved, to not take care of me.  I also have an automatic reflex to fly to a resentment I have to work overtime to let go of them so I am not steeped in resentment at him.


I appreciate your candor and your honesty that shows great strength and courage. I so look forward to getting to know you. Welcome to this wonderful group.


Maresie



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Thank all of you for your kindness, welcome and support. I think what I most needed to convey, but didn't in the midst of that confusing rant I wrote, is that I have reached the point that I want a change.  I don't want my son to grow up mimicking the acts of his father, or my daughter marrying a man like this and have her think it's normal.  It's been a very long time coming, but I have come to the realization that I have value as a human being and I want more out of life than what I am receiving in this alcoholic relationship.  I am very big in bluster, telling myself I'm going to leave him, make a new life for myself and our children, yet I still lack the courage to do so even if I was finanacially able.  I also have a problem with guilt.  Although I do know that I am not the cause of his alcoholism or any actions thereof, I feel a tremendous amount of guilt (and admittedly, fear) about what will transpire when I finally am in a position to leave him to his own devices.  I worry about who will take care of him, who will make sure that he's eating, getting to work, doing what he needs to do for himself, those types of things.  I feel guilt IN ADVANCE of the trials he will also face, but I'm also not at that point that I really want to work things out.  I honestly think I've come as far as I can go.  Unfortunately, he seems to have killed any love I had for him and in it's stead, I feel more disgust and dislike.  Is any of this normal?? Why do I beat myself up over it, especially when I watched my mother take the same exact road I'm taking?  Please forgive me if I think and talk in circles.  Sometimes I just feel like I am getting nowhere fast.  Again, thank you for your responses and kind thoughts. 

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Thank you, Maresie2.  Your situation sounds very similar to mine and I hurt for you as well as myself.  I found this board last night--devine intervention??--as I was unable to find a local Alanon chapter anywhere near me.  The closest one is 40 miles away and that's just not possible for me.  I'm already 'sneaking' here after he has passed out for the night; I'm uncertain what his reaction would be if I told him I was seeking support here or anywhere.  I am just so UNSURE what his reactions to anything will be lately; the more his drinking progresses, the more unpredictable he becomes.  *sigh*  I can so relate to what you were saying about forgetting to take care of yourself; I have fallen into that pattern myself.  I very much plan to continue posting and reading here; I have read some incredible stories of support and hope, as well as those stories that are like my own.  We're planning a four hour drive tomorrow to meet some family members who are traveling, so we can spend the day with them and today while he was out, he stopped at the liquor store to make sure he bought his 'little' bottle to take with him.  Apparently even a half-day excursion would be off limits for alcohol.  I almost don't want to go now, but the kids would be more than disappointed.  Sometimes I don't want to be the adult.  I really should stop now because I can see this becoming novel-length in no time. 

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My esh on the guilt issue is to note that I mixed up compassion with guilt and used it to show love for the A.  I felt sorry for him when I needed to hold him responsible in many different ways. I also did not have good boundaries. I was over responsible as far as he was concerned and under responsible to myself. In Al-anon they suggest not making any huge changes in the first year so it is important not to get ahead of yourself.  In Al-anon we learn to detach and focus on us and our recovery. I have my part in this relationship and I work on that a lot with my sponsor and with a therapist.  I also work on me what are my goals, what are my needs. The A is not concerend with my needs, never was.  He does just enough to get by.  I think you will find many of the answers to your issues over time.  Patience is a virtue and so is being kind to yourself.


maresie.



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Of course you make sence. Alcoholism drives us a little wonky at times and our thinking deff becomes distorted , can't think clearly etc. i hope u will find meetings for yourself and find the courage to get your life back on track. There is nothing u can do about him . the only person u can change is yourself.


Control is very important for the A and when they begin to loose it things go a little sidways for awhile as u become more independent and happy regardless of what he is doing .  I learned early in this program that they need US alot more than we need THEM. too bad we didn't know that . huh ? breaks my heart to hear a  woman say they are weak , i don't think so  we l ive with this stuff  stone cold sober.  weak ???NOT 


goodluck Louise



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