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New here and sad and confused and...


Well, I have flirted with the idea of sharing my story, asking for advice, etc. and figured that I may as well do what I always do and jump in with both feet.


I have been with my A for 2 years. I knew him when he was active, then he went to rehab and when he came home, that is when we got together. Shortly afterwards, he started drinking again. Unfortunately, I was already in love with him. I had hoped that he would go back to rehab, get clean again. cut back... something. But, no... it is as bad as ever, even worse. We now have a two month old son together. The beginning of the end was when I had to drive myself to the hospital for my scheduled c-section because he could not find a ride to the hospital or he forgot what time my surgery was or whatever his excuse is at the moment. I tried to keep us together for the baby's sake. But, I just can't do it anymore. His only motivation is to find $13.75 a day to buy a 30-pack. If I had given birth to one of those, you can bet your ass he would have found a way to be there.


Now, I have told him it is over. When he disappeared again, as usual, on a holiday and I didnt hear from him till today, I told him that it is over. That he needs to accept the fact that I don't love him anymore and leave me alone. I will not keep him from his child, but he cannot come to my apt to see him. He needs to make arrangements so I can let him see the baby at his brother and sil's house, where I  know he will not act up. He has been abusive in the past and I refuse to let him do that anymore.


I am sad. I am hurting. I miss him and hate myself for missing him when all he does is bring me  pain. I have five children and my three year old tells me that he will 'smash my face, bitch' when he gets mad at me. Doesn't that tell you something??


I have been alienated from my friends for so long that I do not feel comfortable with going to them for encouragement. They don't understand how I can still love him. But, I do. The old him. Not the way he is now.


Anyway, my life must go on. My responsabilities do not end and I am just so overwhelmed with everything. One minute I want to cry my eyes out and one minute I am filled with hope and glad I have finally came to a decision to end this madness.


He, of course, calls every day, 10 - 15 times a day untill he is too drunk to dial the numbers anymore. This will go on for a long time, if I know him at all. How do I handle this?? What do I do? I know noone can tell me. But these are the thoughts in my head.



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You have alot of issues with this active A.


I would definately go and get myself a protection order...dont leave your baby with anyone to see this maniac, he is not capable of being his father, I am sorry, the child comes first, not the abusive alcoholic.


You need to keep focusing on the sadness in your post and do something to change it, dont ever put your 3 year old in the position again where he is saying "I'm gonna smash your face in bitch" that is SO tragic.


I KNOW what it means to live in an abusive situation, if YOU dont do something to fix what is wrong with YOU, and lose this abusive A, YOU will be asking for violence and for your kids to mimic what they see.


I am no AlAnon Pro by a long shot, but this is just so SAD!


My first husband tried to choke me to death the day I left him with nothing more than my 2 year old daughter, her diaper bag and her favorite doll. I kneed him in the sack so hard he was purple and spitting an puking, I RAN out the door, fled to a neighbors house and went to my parents and NEVER went back.


HE probably could care 2 sh*ts about your baby, that is what I am guessing, the baby HE will TRY to use as a tool to manipulate YOU, from experience, this is what happened to me.


DONT be fooled.


GET OUT....RUN...and for God's sake get someone who cares about you to HELP.


God bless you and please keep posting.


JEN



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Mdm Butterfly- IF you are not safe.. please call this number for advice on Domestic Violence: They can help you make some decisions about your saftey. Domestic Violence is also safe to call if you need some help: 1-800-799-SAFE   (wonderful people answer the phones there)


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WELCOME to ALANON!  ((butterfly))<<<hugs


You say your new here...are you new to Alanon?  IF SO, maybe the best way to start with this and the situation you are in is to  talk with someone. Someone here in chat  or please consider to call  (numbers below) and ask information about how to locate a local meeting place.  This way you can sit in on some meetings and see how everything works.... PLUS, you'll get some face to face experience strength and hope from the others that are there. ((HUGS)) This is what we do....   We share our own stories on what has happened to us, how we have found and began to put the tools of this program to work for us.  This program is about You.  How to take care of You.  There are many of us that have been exactly where you are and would love to help you understand that your not alone!


I LOVE YOU~ (((BIGHUG)))  just for finding this website  thats a great start!


Going to list some phone numbers for you . Just call and let them know where you are so they can pinpoint a meeting place for you to visit.  Its totally safe, and you can remain anonomous.  Please dont be scared..... the people are just like all of us  here...we're warm and loving and the exact kind of support you are in need of now.


Really feel you'll enjoy going to a face to face (f2f) meeting to get the real feel of ALANON!  All WONDERFUL PEOPLE THERE TOO!!    I promise you will be happy that you atleast gave us a try and took some time to read the literature and meet all of us who love you even though we dont know ya yet.  


Call 1-888-4AL-ANON toll free for meeting schedules and locations nearest you.... 


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Personally, I get nervous when anyone offers you advice, no matter how well intentioned, on whether you should 'stay or go', etc...  It is important for you to know your options, from both a legal sense, and an addictions counselling perspective.  I would encourage you to set a boundary with him about the phone calls (i.e. you will not speak to him when he is drunk), and if it escalates to that point, you may have to put some kind of restriction in place....


The other stuff may sound like a broken record, but what are you doing for YOU these days?  Can you get yourself to Al-Anon meetings?  Meetings, posting at sites like this, sharing with other safe recovery people - this will all help in your recovery.  Please take care of yourself, in however you best see fit...


 


Tom



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Hi MdmDragonfly, welcome to MIP and Alanon. I really feel for you. My circumstances were very different from your own but I certainly know the 'madness' of having loved and lived with an alcoholic. You have taken a huge step by reaching out for help and are no longer alone. It takes courage to put our stories out there so well done you! For me, admitting that there was a problem, that it was bigger than I and to talk about it honestly and openly with other people who had lived it too, was the beginning of healing and recovery.


My husband was not verbally or physically abusive so I can't personally identify but I know many who have lived that particular nightmare. I commend you for trying to remove yourself and your children from the situation and hope you can continue to do whatever you feel is right to keep you all safe. It sounds to me that you recognise the situation is unhealthy and that your children deserve to be raised in a more loving and nurturing environment. You are trying to establish some boundaries. Alanon meetings, literature and phone calls to other members I met at the face to face meetings really helped me with that and so much more. Alanon helped me to understand Alcoholism, how it had affected me and gave me the tools and the strength I needed to effect and maintain healthy change.


I learnt that Alcoholism is a disease that can be arrested but not cured. The alcoholic will only seek help when they have hit their personal rock-bottom. I didn't cause it, I couldn't control it and I couldn't cure it. What I did was contribute to it, albeit unknowingly and often with the best of intentions. I had to stop protecting him from the consequences of his behaviour and concentrate on changing my own.


Working a program of recovery gave me something positive to focus on. I made a committment to myself. It was a process for me and I made many mistakes but I was learning and growing. It was worth the time and effort I put in, I went from being despairing, defeated and utterly hopeless to feeling optimistic, free, enriched, hopeful and yes, HAPPY! I made meetings when I was ill, when the weather was bad etc. I know it may be difficult for you with a young baby. It's usually recommended that you go for at least six weeks to get a 'feel' for how it works. If you don't feel comfortable, find a different meeting but give yourself a chance. My life isn't perfect but it is so much more than it was.


When my A phoned I told him that I no longer would participate in the drunken dialogues. It was distressing for me and served no useful purpose. If he needed to speak with me then he had to phone when he was sober. Of course, he pushed the boundaries and it was necessary for me to assert politely but firmly that I didn't want to talk with him until he was sober and then I would hang up. On occasions I pulled the phone from the wall, especially when I went to bed as he had a habit of calling at the most ridiculous times! I don't know if this would work in your situation especially if the alcoholic may get abusive, I can only pass on my experience. An alternative may be to change your number.


Finally, please remember that it is perfectly natural to feel sad, hurt and overwhelmed. You are grieving the loss of a loved one, your hopes for a happy future together and your baby's daddy. Give yourself time to heal and be gentle on yourself.


In love and support, X  Maria  X 



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Welcome to MIP. You are not alone. There a lot of people who understand.


 


World Service Organization Website –


WWW.al-anon.alateen.org


Phone number is 1-888-425-2666


Alanon meetings 800-351-9996


Alanon literature Worldwide 888-425-2666


Alanon meeting info. 800-433-7266 AA info.


Chat room is open 24/7 there here the link to www.mipchat.net or http://www.12stepforums.net/chatroom2.html 


Here are some things that have helped me since in the program.



  • Go face to face meeting & online meeting.
  • post on the board here on the site. I have gotten a lot of good feed back.

·        Set support system.  people do not judge. You need someone who can go for coffee on a bad day, or pick up a phone and call when in trouble. The support is what is important when you first this program.



  • Have a sponsor. Someone work one on one with you.

You don’t have to do this the minute u come to the program but I suggest that u do it when u can. It help.


 

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Thank you to everyone who has posted and offered their thoughts and introductions..


My A has decided to go to rehab. He has flirted with this for a long time but has finally committed to doing it. I took him to the Drug and Alcohol Treatment Center on Friday and they got him all set up. He is leaving on Monday morning and will be gone for at least 28 days. His father and a friend from AA are taking him.


Right now he is having  a very hard time, drinking about 3 times the amount of beer that he used to and crying almost constantly. He says that the reason he is doing it is because he is tired of hurting himself and never wants to lay a hand on me again in anger. That it scares him that he has become a 'woman beater' and does not want to hurt anyone ever again. He just keeps crying and telling me how scared he is that he wont be able to keep it up after he gets out of rehab... I don't know what to tell him. I can't tell him anything, really. He has also been calling his old sponsor from AA and a couple other 'old timers' who are helping a bit.


He is not being violent... just sad. I am glad that he is doing this, but wow this is very stressful in itself..


I am going to check into the Alanon meetings where I am but having 5 kids, it is hard for me to go anywhere without them. I may have to stick to online meetings.



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