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Hi there, Everyone.

I'm wondering if this is an okay place for me to be. I don't have any family members or friends who are alcoholics, at least not ones who I know well or whose alcoholism has directly affected me.

I have been looking for a 12-step group for a little while to help me cope with feelings of non-acceptance, anger, anxiety, depression, etc, and I haven't been able to find one in my area, so I thought this might be the best alternative. I don't want to be disrespectful to this group by posting if my not having an addict in my life makes it inappropriate for me to be here. But, I thought that perhaps sometimes people do this. Anyway - please feel free to share how you feel, I'm open to being directed elsewhere or deleting my profile altogether.

All in all, to share: what have been looking for 12-step to help me work through is a chronic feeling of unhappiness, a persistent struggle with not feeling good at what I do (despite knowing on some level that I am good at what I do) - I suppose this is perfectionism here, blaming my husband for my unhappiness because of a time a long time ago when I put my marriage before something that might have meant more acceptance in my career or career advancement. I just struggle with feeling intensely envious and jealous of other people (some from long ago in my past) who have become successful and satisfied in their careers - it's almost like an obsession. I think about it and compare myself to them so frequently. All of this creates so much suffering for me. So much so that I often - sometimes for full days at a time - just feel hateful and don't feel grateful for what I have in my life. I feel this huge grapefruit-sized block over my stomach and heart where I feel all of the disconnection, intense unhappiness and anger radiating from. Sometimes, I wake up in the middle of the night and throw pillows at the wall, comparing my perceived failures to my perception of other people's successes, and venting about "how nothing has worked out in my favor." It feels so sad to me when this happens - I become some mad-eyed woman who is stuck in this cycle of anger, rage, and grief. My husband says "it's like I can't reach you." It's like a tantrum, and it feels like it's been a few years since I've really felt like myself in a persistent way.

I had a tantrum like this last night and my husband and I talked again about me doing the 12 steps. I looked at the first step and asked myself, what do I need to admit that I am powerless over - that my life has become unmanageable? I'm not sure I even know how to do this. I don't know exactly what I feel powerless to. I guess, it is my perception of myself as a victim - of myself as a loser - someone who has had things taken from her, both by people she loves/love her and institutions that had no responsibility to her.

I don't know exactly what I am powerless to - but I know that I feel powerless, angry, and then feel powerless to the cycle of anger. I know that I don't feel like myself. I know that my comparing, self-rejection, anti-acceptance, grief, and rage in respect to the fact that there is a gap between how I thought my life was going to be versus how it's turned out, brings so much misery and sadness - because I just can't connect to the things that are joyful and that I am lucky to have. I feel completely trapped. I think I am afraid that if I accept and allow myself to change, then I am agreeing to receive a raw deal, and not fighting for more means that I'm a resigned epic loser (I suppose the criticism is pretty clear there...)

Anyway, it's been a long road of doing therapy, practicing introspection, and struggling with this feeling. I'm really hoping to find some support practicing the steps in a group context. Let me know if this isn't the one for me and I'll keep searching!

Thank you all for reading and for being here. 



-- Edited by KitTev on Tuesday 9th of July 2019 02:40:01 PM

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 I KitTev-

              in Alanon we say- try six meetings- and see if this is the place for you.

Okay- so you do not have to bundle yourself into a car and travel across town. Each of us has a meeting here, at our elbow... biggrin

I am not the greeter here, really... ...everyone here just pitches in- when needed. We do come from all over the world- so there is a lot of wisdom here- and a depth and breadth of experience in Alanon. Welcome... smile ...

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Thank you for welcoming me, David. It means a lot! Teared up :)



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KitTev - I too welcome you to MIP. Glad that you found us and glad that you shared. The only person who can decide if you can/will benefit from this board is you! As far as I know, we are inclusive, not exclusive!

I readily admit that I believe the whole world would be a better place if everyone had 12 Step recovery tools at their disposal. Of course, I am freely willing to acknowledge and admit that most of my insanity is caused by that 'organ' between my ears! So, I say, poke around, ask questions, visit the main official Al-Anon site for more and see where this takes you! I have a friend with cancer and we worked the 12 Steps using Cancer vs. Alcohol. She's not an active member of any 12 Step program, but I do believe it helped her greatly accept that she's powerless over the disease.

Glad you are here - keep coming back!

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        ((((((((((((((((( Kit ))))))))))))))

You would not meet me outside of a meeting, especially in the early stages. (My gender.)

Inside of the meeting is great... because we have all bin there, done that... smile ...

I come from a rural community- and we tend to just bowl up and talk to people... biggrin ...

6 months, ago...  in this group- you might have been advised to get to a face to face meeting. A good option to consider... ...maybe?

But- from me I regard this group as my home group- and actually, it is as good as any I have been to. And I regard this online meeting as a stand-alone meeting.

Mostly newcomers are offered six meeting for starters... [or when they can get along...] ... quite often there are Alanon qualifiers in our world we are not aware of... ...the most important thing is to open up and share!!! smile ...

My SO [significant other]... is my wife of many years.

We are getting on really well now... once I slowly began to address my anger and pain. Lostness. Hopelessness.

And some of this works better outside of the relationship... we find this out as we go along. As we create a network of friends and peers... 

I have had to deal with her anger and pain too! Mostly she did not seem to be aware of it. Getting that sorted seems to take time.

Take care, out there...

...you have made yourself very anonymous... which is good...

...and you will find, at the same time- that "inside the rooms" none of us are strangers... not in the least... smile ...

smile ...



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Welcome, KitTev

Alcoholism's reach is pretty far, so I wouldn't be surprised in the least if at some place in your extended family, someone was affected by alcoholism and they passed their coping mechanisms along the family line and you're one of the people noticing these effects.

That said, Al-Anon's focus is on helping family and friends of problem drinkers. To which I could see some possible confusion for you especially if you're taking Step One word for word. Where does "alcohol" factor in anywhere where your powerlessness is concerned?

As IAH said, you get to determine for yourself if you belong here. Something resonates with you and that's telling. And I'll add that many Al-Anon members eventually replace the word "alcohol" in Step One with "other people, places, and things".

I would only suggest looking into CoDA if for any reason you feel the discussions centered around alcoholism throw you off. CoDA is "Co-Dependents Anonymous". And while I feel Al-Anon addresses all issues of co-dependency, again, perhaps a 12-step program that isn't so heavily centered on alcoholism and addiction might feel like a good fit for you.

http://coda.org/

This page on CoDA's web site may be helpful for you in determining if that program is for you:

Patterns and Characteristics of Codependence

That said, you are more than welcome here.

Whichever 12-step program you find, just keep coming back.



-- Edited by Aloha on Wednesday 10th of July 2019 08:57:37 AM

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 smile Aloha... ACA, ACoA, or ACA D-F... [all the same] may be another option. [I am a member!]

       These group now take in anyone who has family of origin issues.

       Right from the get-go for me- is getting into a group- that sucks out my bads, and helps me to create goods. biggrin ...

The thing about our group here- we can do introductions- key group work, and coffee time, as well... there is the broad base. And pick up on the conversations- that speak to where we are at now. 

I was scared as heck- in the early days- of speaking out of turn- or of being off topic... which is an old family message- at it's base.

I think inside each of these threads- there is a fair bit of wriggle room... to get to the issues that affect us most. smile ...



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