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I met him in june 2015. He was just starting probation for a year for what i thought was 2 DUI's. (Turned out to be 4, 2 as a minor, 2 as an adult) All before i met him. He stole my heart. The following June he cleared probation with no mess ups. He was so strong and amazing. It started one weekend at a time before it one a day or two during the week. On the 6th conversation i left for a week. He seemed to be doing better but had lost my trust. The rule at his house was he couldnt drink there or come home drunk so he stayed at a hotel and hid it from me. Dec 28th he lied and was out drunk. I showed up to his normal hotel and there he was, smashed. Turns out he did the same thing the Wednesday before Christmas and asked people not to tell me so he did ruin the holiday. He was not abusive or mean. He would just be black out drunk in a matter of a couple hours. Everyone told me his history of being an A. It was a new situation for me. I tried to support him getting sober. I went to an A Alon meeting for answers. The answers were all the same - he has to do it himself... I made the decision to leave. I was tired of being lied to and didnt want to watch him ruin his love, life and business. He is his worst critic and hates himself for it now. I asked him to not contact me for my good and i feel his own too. I feel im no better if i dont keep my word on leaving. Im crushed though. He is 5 days sober and 5 days in AA as i check on him through friends. I pray that he finds himself and if our paths cross again someday its not to late. I know its a daily choice to be sober. Is there any length of time.... is it really over over.... I want no one else but I accept my choice to leave for my own protection and hopefully his sobriety. I dont know if i have questions for this forum. Im honestly just so heart broken and lost. I feel depression kicking in but im just pushing hard to keep moving. I know it was the right decision but its so hard!
Sometimes just being with others who understand is a good enough reason for being here
I am sorry that you are feeling the grief of separation, it is so very natural. The decisions that you describe are filled with love and caring and, it seems to me with wisdom as well.
It is good to have you with us Cutty, none of us are alone on this journey. ((((Hugs))))
Welcome Cuddy, I am glad that you have found Al-Anon meetings and understand the basics about the disease of alcoholism. It is a dreadful , chronic, progressive disease over which we are powerless. Alanon is the recovery program established to support those who live with or have lived with the disease of alcoholism.
Living with this disease we develop many negative coping tools in order to survive the insanity. Al-Anon offers an alternative to these tools, provides positive support as we attempt to let go of old attitudes and develop new one. Even if you're not with an alcoholic at the moment you're still been affected by the disease and attending Al-Anon meetings would be very helpful. It is here I learned to keep the focus on myself, be gentle with myself, live one day at a time, trust a power greater than myself and to act and not react. These are powerful tools and although I'ml not with an alcoholic, they serve me well today. Keep coming back there is hope
I know why i made the choice i did. I guess i just keep looking for reassurance that i made the right choice. I feel like i made the choice i had to for both of us. Part of me feels like i left him to deal with this on his own and now he doesnt have my support. Thats my biggest struggle right now.
Aloha Cutty and welcome to the family and thanks also for the memories I get thinking about how I came to recovery and how precarious the journey has been during the period of time I have been here. I need to keep in mind and spirit that I arrived without wisdom and experience about this fatal disease...I just didn't know and didn't even know that I didn't know. I was born into the disease and over time it became a normal way of living; the thoughts, feelings and actions I didn't even know how to spell and say alcoholism or alcoholic. In my family the word was "drunk" and if we said it we were being disrespectful. No one knew cunning, powerful and baffling or fatal which I learned in the rooms of Al-Anon being direct toward the information from the AMA and other sources. I still didn't believe because I thought I could and would "will" it to be different which lead to more insanity than I could wish on myself or anyone else because alcoholism is driven by will...a compulsion of the mind and allergy of the body.
You found a courage to change though you have second thoughts about it which we call second guessing. I was driven mad by my second guessing as all of the plans and re-planning and expectations and such continued to become ashes. I arrived at the understanding that I wasn't loving her I was practicing my own addiction...the difference between love and need and I was in the position to seek help from my Higher Power (than I) and the people tools HP put in front of me. I started having miracles of understanding and growth and the lessons are indelible. I had to climb over the mountain of pride that kept me sick with the tool of acceptance and more.
The decision for me to leave was supported by so much different understanding all the way around that while I resisted making the decision I was faced with new and newer understanding of the justifications to follow thru.
I ought never have sought relationship with a alcoholic/addict though I had done it several times before. I ought never had drank alcoholically myself yet I wouldn't find out what that meant or was until my HP paralyzed my compulsion to and brought me into the foreign world and people of recovery. I came to understand what my HP was teaching me thru the ESP of many others. Today I am sober and know what that means and I have peace of mind and serenity and understand the conditions of grace in my life.
Leaving for me was hard also and not as hard as living within the disease. When I left and found recovery and when she did also we discovered how much we loved each other and....had no reason to be married. Marriage was one example of us practicing our addiction. Thank God for program....Please keep coming back cause this works when you work it. (((((hugs)))))
In Spirit....I am sure she is as grateful as I am at the mystical and miraculous way it turned out even knowing perfection wasn't. My HP used my alcoholic/addict's recovery as a metaphor and lesson in humility...(being teachable) for me. I needed a bag over my head too.
I was in a Thursday Night Al-Anon Family Group meeting when a man came in after attending the family group at the Alcohol Recovery Center and he was flustered telling the room "You are not going to believe what I just heard in group" He went on to say that a lady came into group with a bag over her head led by her counselor who told the group that he had met the lady that morning with the bag over head and when he asked her why she replied "I have come to understand that if I am not led blindly thru recovery, I will not make it". She kept that bag over her head full time for two weeks and was still sober when we parted. That was my alcoholic/addict former wife. God needed to get to me...and God did.
I had to leave before this could happen and while others could and would doubt that idea for me it is experience and worked. The experience continued when I was asked to be a counselor in that program. (((())))
-- Edited by Jerry F on Tuesday 3rd of January 2017 01:51:45 PM
When we met i was wasnt looking for love. I was/am content with who i am as a person. I do love myself for me. It took months for me to drop my guard and let him in. After the started drinking i slowly put my guard back up with out even knowing it. Maybe the HP was protecting me for what i didnt know was to come. I guess i have hopes that our paths will cross in the future and we can finish creating what we had started but in a healthier state of life and mind. Im so happy that people are responsive in this forum. I pray for strength and wisdom for him and I. I understand that people come in to our lives for a reason and/or higher purpose, maybe as training to help us prepare for our future path.
That is very intuitive and then for me do not know the exact will of God...I have come closer to knowing by working the program and attaining consequences of working it as I was shown by example. I have learned that acceptance has a place in the will of my Higher Power and that Love is HP's name and the opposite of fear. I learned from HP that Love cannot exist at the same time as fear and that fear cannot exist at the same time and place as love. That was a direct lesson which remains with me to the moment. So I was given a choice by HP...what do I chose HP asked and I laughed because the answer was obvious...to be loved and to love without condition just as HP loves. Is this not the greatest commandment? I like it even the definition given to me by another Al-Anon sister who loved her alcoholic without mentioning him personally or specially. After the meeting I chased her down on the way to her car to learn what her definition of love was...it doesn't even contain the word love. I adopted it for my own definition..."It is the complete and total acceptance of every human being for exactly who they are". Unconditional. You are included in that Cutty, without condition. There is nothing you can or have to do to make it better or stronger. Love is the higher purpose. (((((hugs)))))
Welcome to MIP Cutty - glad you found us and glad that you shared. There is no shame in loving an alcoholic and there is no shame in self-preservation. That's what Al-Anon is all about - rediscovering you/self and examining self to the point of restoring sanity and finding joy again. Some leave alcoholic relationships, some stay - it's never an easy choice no matter the outcome.
I hope you keep attending meetings - it is a great support system for healing/dealing from the effects of living with or loving an alcoholic. Al-Anon restored my sanity and I'll be forever grateful...keep coming back - (((Hugs)))
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