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Checking ABF text messages


I really need someone to SMH! ABF has started drinking again after being sober for awhile, so obviously I do not trust him to tell me the truth. I know this is not helpful to my sanity but I tend to read his text messages to see what he is up to. Why can I not get it thru my head that it only causes me more grief? 

I have been going to F2F meetings. I have learned to focus more on me. No amount of drilling him and asking 100's of questions of what he has been up to that particular day is being helpful. He just becomes defensive. He went out for a few hours recently and came home not super drunk (yay!). I just stayed in another room when he came home and when I did see him, I was pleasant. I had forgotten that one way to play mind games with him is to treat him in a totally different way than what he expects. lol

 

 



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Hello Funandsun, welcome to MIP

Good to hear that you are finding the benefits of going to f2f meetings. I can relate to your feelings when you check phone messages etc. It took me a long time to stop wanting to do that - after all my mind does love to find the solution to any problem!! Realising how tense I felt while accessing the messages on my husband's phone helped me understand what I was doing to myself. Accepting that, frankly, anything that might possibly answer the questions that I had would probably be deleted anyway helped me to understand that I was wasting my own time chasing something that probably wasn't there.

I used the HALT (hungry, angry, lonely, tired) question and found out that one of those applied to how I was feeling most of the time. Nine times out of ten I just needed a friend, or something to eat, a rest or a beautiful walk - using these things to sooth myself turned out to work better for me than any snooping ever did!

Well done on staying pleasant - it feels good to be able to rise above stuff and I found the more I do it the more natural it becomes and the easier it is to be objective about my circumstances - less guilt about my own actions I guess!!

My husband went through a few relapses and I learnt to just carry on with my life regardless of what he was doing. As you say, keeping the focus on ourselves works so much better. Thank you for the reminder.



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Welcome to MIP funandsun - glad you found us and glad you shared. It took me a long while to realize that normal conversational questions are dangerous with active alcoholics. Mine always felt I was prying, being nosey, etc.......it was truly mind-boggling how a, "How was your day?" could lead to total mayhem, chaos and extreme drama.

I now just say hello and go on about my day/plans. The more I change - the more peace there is around me. It's a far cry from my fairy-tale life I thought I'd have, but it's improved beyond what I ever imagined when I first came to Al-Anon.

Keep coming back and know you are not alone! There is always hope and help with recovery...

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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging.  Pause before assuming.  Pause before accusing.  Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret.  ~~~~  Lori Deschene

 

 



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I am having this same struggle. I snoop because I know he's not being honest, but I never like what I find! Recently I found proof he had been drinking behind my back and he responded with absolute rage. He turned everything around on me and said I had no right to snoop through his things. I made the point that although it is an invasion of privacy, I had asked him several times and he always denied it and he would continue to lie to me unless I looked myself.

He often deletes his text messages before I can even read them, but I had the chance to see yesterday and I took it. He was buying pills from someone. I am left feeling like I don't even know what I'm doing anymore. I feel I no longer have the strength to leave and furthermore I'm not sure I want to. Then I ask myself "Do you really want to live like this?" I've stopped trying to control him and even when he says "I won't do it if you don't want me to" I don't buy in anymore. Because he will just lie to me anyway when he wants to do it.

It's like I HAVE to know the truth for my own sanity, but the truth absolutely sucks. You're not alone. I've only posted here a handful of times, but it helps.

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Face to face meetings and the Steps also help



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If you really want to stop the obsessive checking...consider this: Alcoholics are insanely egotistical so having someone hanging on them enough to check on and try and spy on them will actually INFLATE is already fat ego. Though he would act mad...it really works in reverse. He will sickly get off on you being obsessed with him, turn the behavior all on you (and the sneaky checking is yours to own), and he will use it as yet another dumb excuse to go drink cuz he has a "bleep" girlfriend that is always riding him and all that nonsense. You know this right? I bet you do.

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Yeah I do think they think the world revolves around them and only them But then they crave attention. I know getting real busy with my own life us so essential. I just left a house where I rented a room from a pretty Hugh functioning alcoholic. Today I went over to get the last.of my stuff. Leaving the key there was pretty emotional for me. I had to work so hard to detach from all his stuff. His tantruma, his making noise when he knew I was asleep, his control issues. His comments about my life (usually derogatory) And this was someone I rented a room from. .. .. The main thing for me was I am out of there. I certainly kept tabs on what this guy was doing because I knew the binges and the eruptions came after certain things (that is arguments with his girlfriend) Personally I think it takes nerves of steel to not react around an alcoholic. Most of all it takes a lot of practice (I have had plenty of that) I am glad to be away from this alcoholic. I have known him over 15 years. His disease has certainly progressed. Needless to say he has no shortage of girlfriends. He is bankrupt, his house is falling down around him and he has many medical problems. He is never without a girkfriend. He has them lined up. The most important thing for me to do around an alcoholic is to stop beating myself up. They are phenomenal at projection!!! Maresie

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Before I came to Al-Anon, I snooped and did 'bed checks' often and always without notice. What that did? Caused me more pain, extreme anxiety and worry. Truly, mine were always able to replenish what I took/poured/flushed and so the cycle continued. Snooping into their phone, room, garage, car, etc. does nothing but waste our time and mental energy because the disease is in control. Until they want to change, they will not but you can!

We learn in the program to stop talking, watching, obsessing on what they are doing and focus on us. We tend to neglect ourselves as a by-product of living with this disease. They are going to do what they are going to do (and think and say) - the question is what are you going to do?

I stopped snooping, I stopped asking and I literally did other things when I got filled with fear and worry for them. These were suggestions in program that helped restore my sanity and peace. Attending meetings and changing my focus by working on me with this program changed my life. There is help and hope in the rooms of Al-Anon.

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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging.  Pause before assuming.  Pause before accusing.  Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret.  ~~~~  Lori Deschene

 

 

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