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Excuses Excuses


Nothing is good enough for you....Its harder than you think....You don't understand   Those were his words to me as he walked out the door to his favorite AA meeting.

For weeks now made every attempt to get dinner out on time so he can get to his meetings, 5 6 nights a week.  Doing my absolute best and work my recovery and stay out of his.  Reading my books, doing my Courage to change everyday.  Getting my face to face through you tube videos.  I cant get to face to face meetings as I got kids and a house to take care of, I have very little support to watch my handicapped son so I can go. Not that he has offered to stay home so I could go. 

Yesterday we had a great day.   Opened Easter baskets together as a family, went to church ---I was able to make step 3 and shared that with the congregation.   The kids went to their fathers and his parents for Easter dinner.   RAH and I took off and did something fun and spontaneous and had a real nice dinner.   Came home and my other qualifier, my polysubstance abuser son and his gf came over, and he was actually sober as well.   Relaxed and when I straightened up at the end of the night, put RAH step work and therapy homework on his lunchbox like I do most nights.  

When I got up for work the stepwork and the homework were left, if was raining today so I knew he would've had time, it irritated me. Plus there was teenage daughter center of the universe drama, So when he called me an hour later I may have been a little short, as he said we had a great day yesterday I thought we were on the right track, I replied perhaps too cool its not just you.   After a few minutes in the conversation I told him that it irritated me that he doesn't meet with his sponsor on regular basis, he doesn't do his step work, he doesn't do his therapy work, he goes to AA but is not AA.   He said well you know how I am, I like to do things for myself.   Um no, you like me to do them for you, and if you do them, you like to make up your own rules, and hows that been working out?   According to him that was dart 1.

I worked a 9 hour day, and was resting on the couch when he came in, after putting dinner in the oven so it would be ready in time.  He came in the house screaming that apparently I parked in the wrong spot and he didn't want to be accused of drinking after almost hitting the trash cans.   So I said the driveway is 15 feet wide, if you did hit the trash cans I would definitely have to assume you were drinking.   That was labeled dart 2.

So then cleaning up the dinner table and packing his lunch box, I said, "So since you are meeting your sponsor tonight and you didn't do the work, what do you want me to do with it or are you going to take it and get the F?"  I thought it was hilarious, him not so much, so he said Idk, what does your sponsor say when you don't get the work done?   and then I said, "Well, I wouldn't know since I am not lucky enough to have one because I don't get a chance to go to a Face to face meeting."  That was dart 3.  

He then asked me why I had to be so cruel, and I said, "I'm not, you have this opportunity and you take it for granted, you don't do the work, you don't work the steps, I would love the opportunity and I still do as much as I can"  so that's when he said the opening statements.   Im tired of I don't understand, and that its hard, I know its hard, I am working right next to him.   Now it seems like just an excuse.   Im waiting for him to attend one meeting too many that it actually clicks.  



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Suzann


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Hugs Suzann,

I'm going to point something out and not be popular I'm sure .. his recovery is his business and his recovery won't mean squat if you do the work for him.

Part of my recovery (and I slip and slide mostly because I don't have to be present with my XAH in terms of being nice to him and I will post what I'm being challenged with at the moment later) is allowing other people (not just my XAH) to be where they are at and just be ok with it. If I am focused on my side of the street I really do not have time to calculate who should and shouldn't be doing what. My side of the street is a full-time job.

Second off, .. be gentle with yourself .. your post sounds tired and stressed NOW is not the time to be discussing recovery work. Right now it sounds like a good time to take care of YOU and do something for yourself. I don't care if it's go for a walk, receipt the serenity prayer .. do something you like and it makes you feel good. This doesn't include self destructive behavior carton of ice cream or whatever.

Third .. when you feel that itch that one that tells you that because of what you have been through you have the right to have a say in what he is or isn't doing .. tell that voice to sit down and shut up. Sometimes no response is the best way to go. This is where a sponsor is great .. someone who you can call get that garbage out and move on to more productive things.

Big hugs .. this too shall pass and I empathize for you .. let me ask the same question to you .. how's treating him as if he's less than working for you? Keep coming back .. we ALL have our bad days .. trust me when I say this .. it will get easier as you learn tools for better self care and less meddling.

S :)


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Thanks Serenity I am trying to stay out, I do get frustrated though when I see him giving the people who are there to help him bs. He told his sponsor he couldn't get the work done because he had to much to do for his therapist, which he didn't do. Sometimes I just wish he would just admit he really doesn't want to do it. He left the meeting early because he didn't want to see his sponsor disappointed in him. I don't mean to treat him less than, I just sometimes resent that he gets all this support and has excuses as to why he doesn't use it. I am tired its the same thing day after day, I work just as hard, and do so much extra, because all he does is come home and plop on the couch after work until its dinner, then he goes to the meeting. If I ask him to do something around the house, his sponsor or his therapist its excuse after excuse, but Joe the coffee guy, or somebody else at work,,,,,,he cant move fast enough. Thanks for letting me vent.

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(((Suzann))) - I am so glad that you had a great day yesterday. Back when my kids were growing up, Mondays seemed to be stressful enough without added drama. I added to that by doing and expecting perfection in everyone's day. When I came to the program, I truly had to accept that the key for me to find serenity was to accept others exactly as they are, and stop doing for them what they could do for themselves.

My AH is sloppy; I am not. I created a man-cave and no longer clean it. Most of the sloppiness is now centralized in an area that I don't have to see, clean or even visit.

He is forgetful and I am not. I no longer remind him of what to do, where to be, when to be there and what's coming up. He is an adult and I gave him a computer. I even spent time showing him how to use it and his phone (both have calendars, alarms, etc.) If he isn't there, where ever there is, that's on him. I resigned from the secretary pool.

I used to make lunches for everyone. I resigned from that job too when my sons became of age to do it for themselves. If the didn't make their lunch, they could buy their lunch. If they didn't have money, they would go hungry. After all, they are adults and very capable of making sandwiches and putting them into a bag to go.

So, in summary, I delegated responsibility to the person who benefited the most and left the results to God.

I now cook one day in advance. As my boys got older, had school activities and jobs and lives, nobody could agree on one dinner time. So, I switched up to making soups, casseroles, stews, etc. that were self-serving. I set a time and those present ate together, anybody else - on their own. I always have cereal, yogurt, frozen stuff, etc. and once or twice a week, called out YOYO - You're On Your Own for dinner.

JADE comes to mind - I chose to stop justifying, arguing, defending or explaining. I said what I meant, and meant what I said as nicely as possible. Everything that overwhelmed me - laundry, meals, rides, schedules, etc. I tried to see what was my part, where was I overstepping into someone else's part and how could I change it. My life got a lot easier when I stopped doing for others what they could do for themselves.

I went to work, cleaned the house, did the laundry, washed my car and managed carpool. I only washed laundry that was in the hamper on laundry day. I set up boundaries for everything so I could take care of me. Anytime I found myself looking at another family member's schedule, job, homework, program work, etc. I bit my tongue, walked away and read Al-Anon literature.

His recovery is his recovery. He will or will not work the program, but it must be at his pace. Speaking from experience, some people rush through the 12 steps, and feel graduated. We never graduate on either side. Other people do one step per year. It's not your concern or your business what step he's on, if he is or is not meeting with his sponsor, etc. If he wants to share, that's fine. Beyond that, do the best you can to not engage in his program.

Your fears about his success/failure/program/progress should be discussed with your sponsor, not him. You and he both have enough personal 'things' to work on to not burden the other with program fears. I know you've not been able to get to a meeting, so instead of waiting for him to offer to watch the children, why not ask?

I had to learn in program that others can not read my mind. I have to ask for help to take care of me. It felt so foreign to ask my AH to watch the (his) kids so I could go .....(insert meeting, store, other) but I did. I did it with kindness and with clarity and he did not say no. If he had something else to do, we negotiated. Before long, instead of asking, I got brave enough to say, "I have plans on xyz, and need you to be home for the boys." <<< huge growth for me.

Currently, it's just us and the dog. So, I am going to FL in a couple weeks for a wedding. I invited him to go, he hem-hawed around. I made my flight plans, shared them. Finally, I decided he wasn't going to make flight plans, so I said, I am gone from Thursday to Sunday, and need you to be on dog duty. He agreed.

What the program has taught me is I put myself into superwoman role. I took it upon myself to try and create a perfect home, perfect family, perfect husband, perfect yard and .... Nobody assigned that to me, nor did anyone really notice much or appreciate it as it wasn't what they cared about. It was all for me and about me. When I relaxed and chilled out and made me a priority vs. them or the house or the carpool or the yard or the ..., and instead worked on me, everything got better. It got worse for a bit as they had to do things I did before, but they soon learned/adjusted and there was a new normal.

I was my own worst enemy with my distorted views, expectations and desires. Nobody could ever meet my expectations, including me. I contributed to the crazy-making in a big, big way that I didn't even see until I worked the program.

So, be gentle with yourself. Take a break. Evaluate what really, really matters right here and right now. Focus on what's good vs. what's not good. Everything that doesn't get done today will still be there tomorrow, and that's OK! Breathe, breathe, breathe....you are a smart woman - I can tell by your posts. If possible, consider what can be simplified - that helped me find time for me, meetings and working the program. I had to make it a priority though otherwise I would have kept doing the crazy-making and expecting others to change.

Take what you like and leave the rest - (((Hugs)))

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I am here you get me, you always somehow know what I need to hear. He did say the same thing, I should ask and hes right. I had a rough day, and there really was more to it that just him and my daughter. I work in government programs and it always seems the first day after a holiday a lot more people have alittle bit more to complain about. I have that nurse mentality that others problems are the reason I have a job. I heard of everyones problems today. I have no family close by and its unfair to unload on my 80 year old mother 300 miles away. I realize my expectations of myself and others are a big part of my problem and make me nuts. I cant wait until school is out so that I can just go and not have to worry that I am home in time to get them ready for school and things can be a little more relaxed. Thank you

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(((Hugs))) - you know what? You (and I) are human......it's perfectly OK when he gets home to share that you had a rough day and may have directed some tension and frustration that was work-related his way....in my way of thinking, once I've owned it and made my amends, I get to let it go (I call it passing the monkey) and they decide whether they accept, dwell, argue, or not!!

PS - I love passing the monkey off. No longer my circus nor my monkey(s)!

Life is tough girl - simplify, simplify!!

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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging.  Pause before assuming.  Pause before accusing.  Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret.  ~~~~  Lori Deschene

 

 

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