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I have not shared that the home situation is getting worse than said. He has grabbed me and has left bruises on my arms. He again grabbed me on the weekend and so far there is no bruises on me today (Sunday). I am near the end of my rope where I will call the police and have him charged for assault. Usually he will grab my arms and throw me. I try and get away from him and he will follow me around and grab at me again. I have been grabbed about 4 times this past weekend by him and I managed to get away from him. I do not trust him anymore even when sober. I have told him clearly when sober, you grab me again when drunk, I will call the police and have you charged with assault. I might as well talk to the wall. He does not get it or see how serious this is. How do I clearly say to him that this is unacceptable? He grabbed me by the wrist a few times and it hurt bad. I do not have bruises on me. Thank god. I am just so done. I need to get away from him badly. Now he is sleeping and will till tomorrow and I am here reading the messages, trying to refocus on me. I need to stop this madness, because I fear, I will react and hurt him and I will end up in jail myself. Yesterday, he was right in my face, saying hit me, believe me, I wanted to. I did not react. I am so angry, angry, that I allow myself to live in this madness. I could get a restraining order or go to a woman's shelter, but why do I have to, why does he not just leave and drink somewhere else? Why does he have to stay in the house and drink and cause misery for everyone? What is wrong with him. Why do I have to leave the house? He is the one that needs to leave and drink elsewhere? How do I set the boundary with him that he can not drink in the house? How do I tell him what he did to me, grabbing me and hurting me? Someone help...
Joker your statements and questions to him actually should be for you. If nothing changes, nothing changes and it is you who needs to change. I know how difficult it is to consider that and then to act it out because I have been there and done that also until the first time I acted on my need for self protection and recovery. Alcoholics do not have a well connected behavioral response system. They hear and let it pass and return to the difficulties that they react with. Anyone that does not pet their egos and self centeredness becomes the victim where in reality they themselves do not want that to happen. They also fear consequences and not so much when they are not followed thru with. You don't have to wait for another event to happen...you can call and make a report now..when he is sleeping or out of the house. You can call a shelter. You can re-assess you life and make it as important at it really is.
I am a former alternatives to violence men's case manager. I would have already had him in a cell thinking about change and a sentence.
Having been where you are not much longer than a year ago i can tell you that the "why" is not going to help you at all. Involving the police didn't change much either really as long as I stayed living with him; twice when it got bad enough for them to be called he promised not to drink again and it lasted weeks, if that and then was worse the next time.
I came to realise that with him in that state where he was black-out drinking and getting violent regularly there was no boundary setting (you can't implement boundaries with an angry drunk person) and telling him what he did for me just gave him opportunities to turn it back onto me. in the end I found myself smouldering with rage all the time and then getting into arguments where I was screaming with rage trying to convince him that it was not OK to hurt me, while he defiantly insisted it had been my fault. I was just hurting myself.
I think you know that you can't make him behave any differently and you can only change you so, only you can answer this...how can you stop yourself getting hurt? It isn't fair but, it wouldn't be fair if Godzilla turned up at your front door and started attacking you either; and laying down boundaries and explaining what he had done wrong later wouldn't help much in that situation either...an angry drunk is just as reasonable and safe to be around as that...
Hugs. Somewhere inside you know what the next right steps are. Listen to what you know inside and act on it.
(((Joker)))
-- Edited by missmeliss on Sunday 14th of February 2016 12:45:30 PM
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I had called the police on him once and I was the one that was told to leave the situation. I had to leave and go to a hotel room. I was so upset with the police for not protecting me. I just spoke to him now and he is hung over and said to him clearly without blame what he did and that the police will be called, enough is enough. I said to him is that what you want, you to get charged for assault...he says no, I do not. I said to him, this continues, the drinking and abuse, the police will be here again and you will be charged for assault. I left it at that and walked away. He says he needs to quit drinking. I just said nothing and laughed as he gagged and was nearly puking. It is so sad he is like this, not my problem.
Joker - if you are in danger, then it is your problem. I'll not comment on him or his behavior as that's not what the program is about. It's about you, getting you well and healthy. Getting you and your life to a place of peace, joy and serenity. Working on me and putting my needs first is the only way that I felt any peace. That was soon followed by joy because I was willing to continue working on me and putting my needs first.
My first relationship at 17 was with an older boy, 21. I lost myself completely in that one as he was my first. He was a bartender and we both had drinking issues. His was progressed because of age and circumstance. I'm about 5'2" and 115 lbs. on a good day, so not very big. His abuse started small and over 2.5 years escalated to a point where in a blackout, he boxed my ears with 2 bricks. Needless to say, I had a free ride to the hospital where I stayed a while.
I returned to the home because all my things were there and he said he loved me and he said he would change. He did not change and I was scared to leave, be on my own and didn't know how to survive without someone, anyone. One day, God slapped me upside the head with the message, "You don't deserve this - you deserve way better than this."
I drove him to work, returned and packed and took off that day. I got my own place and tried to not look back. He of course followed and stalked me for almost 2 years until I left the state. Thank goodness mobile phones and technology was not as it is today - I don't know if he would have followed me to another state or not, but he couldn't find me so it ended.
Abuse, like alcoholism, usually escalates without some formal intervention/recovery/therapy. As Jerry says above, nothing changes if nothing changes. Take care of you...
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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene
People have made wise comments - if you came upon a crazy violent person in an alley it wouldn't be fair that he attacked you and it wouldn't be fair that you had to run - but it is a logical consequence. Fairness and justice may win out over a period of years or decades or at the day of judgement - philosophers and theologians have argued about that one for centuries. But in the here and now, actions and consequences are the forces of our lives. When a crazy person attacks you, if you don't get out of the way, the tragic consequence is that you will be hit. The thing about crazy people - and I include active alcoholics in that category - is that they can't control themselves. So even if he agreed not to hit you, the next time he has the impulse, he would do it anyway.
I don't know what your living setup is - whether you own it or rent. If you own it together, a lawyer will be able to tell you how to separate without losing your rights to half of the place. If you rent and you are on the lease, a lawyer or legal aid should be able to tell you your options in getting off the lease. If you own or have the lease and your A has no stake in it, a lawyer should be able to tell you how to get him out.
I imagine your local domestic violence shelter will be familiar with all these problems and can refer you to people who can give legal advice.
The thing about alcoholism and violence is that they don't go backwards on their own. They get worse. This sounds as if it is getting worse rapidly. Your safety is at stake. Please take this very seriously and protect yourself. Handle the fairness questions later. It does no good if you're right and dead. Please take care of yourself.
-- Edited by Mattie on Sunday 14th of February 2016 03:37:15 PM
I am very distressed that you are in this situation. This could turn (more) dangerous very quickly. The whys really aren't important in this situation. My neighbor ended up in a midnight move to the domestic shelter due to her husband's out-of-control alcoholism. She did this twice - the second time she was done, and has a separate life today, and is much the better for it.
There is a reason we are told not to go back for our valuables when fire happens. it isn't fair, but it saves lives.
I urge you to evaluate how quickly escalation could happen and get away from it.
Keep in mind sister that the abuse can go both ways...get angry enough and fearful enough and you can be the one in the cell. Hmmm I despise the picture that leaves in my mind and then it is the repeat of an old picture ...mine. Terrible people we love should live. ((((hugs))))