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Sorry to bang on and on about this but it really helps to bring this here and talk my way through it while I'm implementing changes.
Daughter starts her class tomorrow which is fine as it's not a "visitation' weekend anyway. Next week the class is actually on a break so her father is expecting her for his last full weekend for the rest of the school term. Anyway she came home today with a note advising the time and date of the final of the "Tournament of the Minds' which is exactly what it sounds like, a competitive Nerdathon in which daughter is representing her school. I'm more than a little proud of her. You know the kind of thing. So it's a big deal and she's one of a team of 4 kids so it's important she be there. And if course....it's Sunday of the weekend she is going to be at her fathers.
So my immediate reaction was to feel sick and start panicking about how he would react after all of yesterday's nonsense. I took a picture of the notice and texted it to him with a brief note to say "this falls on your weekend. It's important that she attend; will you be able to bring her?"
Of course the phone rang a few seconds later and as per the plan I made with the DV lady yesterday, I told him "Before we talk I have to tell you that I'm recording our conversation. Do you consent to this?"
He said 'What if I don't want to be recorded? What will you do then?" and I said "that's fine, I'll have to hang up as I would be breaking the law to record you without your consent".
When he ridicules to me he uses this very exaggerated loud slow voice as if he is teasing an intellectually disabled child. So he took 2-3 minutes to say loudly and slowly "Ohhhhh, so it would be ILL-EEEEEEEE-GAL would it? Weeeeeeeellllllllll. We couldn't have you doing anything ILLLLLL-EEEEEEEED-GAAAAAAAAALLLLLL could we? NOOOOOOOOOO. NO,NO,NO, WE COULDN'T HAVE THAAAAAT. HEAVEN F0RBID YOU DO ANYTHING ILLLLEEEEEEGAAAAAALLL, GOODNESS ME, NO NO NO, WE CAN'T HAVE YOU BREAKING THE LAAAAAAW". And so on and on, you get the idea. I didn't say anything, I just let him rave on until he ran out of steam.
Anyway such is my reaction to him now that I can't breath when I talk to him and my pulse races and I sound like I am having a heart attack; it's very obvious and my voice is very shakey. I asked if he was able to take her to the event and he told me angrily that the picture I sent him was upside down (oh well, S... happens? It wasn't upside down when i took it) and that he doesn't have time for my little games and he is at work. (that explains why he called me to waste several minutes on his bizarre sarcasm routine).
I told him what the event was and when, and he continued with the sarcasm and belittling and I didn't react because knowing I was recording it changed everything for me. It took away the fear of getting sucked into the crazy; in a sense I felt as if there was someone with me listening to the conversation and holding my hand.
He said in the same ridiculous exaggerated voice "well, I think I WILL bring her to the event and I might just stay and watch it. What do you think about THAT?"
I said "that's splendid, that's what I was hoping you would say."
"Oooooh, well GOOOOOD. WE"RE AAALLLL HAPPY THEN. ISN'T THAT NICE?"
Then at the end of the call he took another few minutes to slowly yell 'SOOOOOOOOO, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH YOUR LITTLE RECORDING? ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP IT ON YOUR COMPUTER? ARE YOU? IN A FOLDER ON YOUR LITTLE COMPUTER? THAT'S NICE" and so on. Really bizarre stuff.
So, I was really upset at first thinking "well, that didn't help at all, he doesn't care if I record him, in fact he was really over the top".
But then I reviewed the conversation and good grief. Usually i imagine myself sounding stupid and pathetic and crazy when I talk to him because I get all twisted up and upset and confused trying to navigate the nonsense. Hearing it replayed was very eye-opening.
Even to my own self critical ears I hear an obviously distressed and frightened woman trying to organise a school event and a loud weirdo ridiculing and shouting nonsense. He sounds so unhinged, like a playground bully just ranting nonsense and trying to be intimidating.
So I realised this is such a great idea; it helps me to stay focused on only dealing with the necessary facts and not reacting to the weird stuff and hearing it back takes away the self doubt and buying into the stuff he says.
Anyway just before I got a text message to say 'I will take her to the event, please send me the time and address" and then a polite "Thank-you, I will be in touch next week".
So it was effective on a heap of levels. I think he won't bother to try to force me into phone calls now because I've taken away all the fun of it for him. It also reinforced what the lady told me yesterday, which was that I may have become used to it over the years but that it is constant stress and intimidation coming at me from outside and that it has to come to an end for my own sanity.
I feel I have taken a really positive step and that's empowering. I also spoke today with the face to face counsellor I will be seeing next week and she ran me through the process and all of the ways that they can help me protect myself from abuse and harrassment. It was interesting that she would not give me an actual address but just a description of approximate location and a phone number to call when I get there so that someone can escort me in to the premises. That tells me that they take it all very seriously and I won't be belittled or dismissed there. I need this kind of support and I'm so pleased I have finally found it and taken hold of it.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone, and the support.
And sorry for the blow by blow; it's just helpful to discuss it and not churn it around and around my head second guessing myself.
-- Edited by missmeliss on Friday 7th of August 2015 06:04:07 AM
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(((Ms.M. )))Sounds as if it worked like a charm with the extra added bonus of your being able to "Hear " yourself sounding conficent was extremely impressive . I am so happy you have this additional support.
Thanks Betty. It really strikes me that one of the things I used to think was 'lovable" about me was I would never involve the authorities, never get anyone into trouble, never do anything "bitchy" as I saw it. Isn't it sad that what i thought was "lovable" and 'loyal" about me really just served as a giant red bullseye on my forehead.
I love that I am at a place now where I feel like I am entitled to and worthy of safety and serenity, and can and will ask for help if I need to.
I feel HP guided me to this next step because I am ready to tackle this next hurdle, that of standing up to people that used to scare me and make me feel small.
Yay
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If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? (Lewis Caroll)
You are learning to"Love" Yourself in a healthy fashion and not sacrifce your life for another--while still treating them with courtesy and respect. Good Deal!!!
Way to go Melly. I am proud of you on many levels. I never did use the that method but often thought of It especially with my mother. She denied everything.
Hearing the abuse again In a safe place would be eye opening. My xah would say things to me at the end that I Would have liked to look at again because i was reacting To his nastiness not paying attention to what was really Said if i could replay it later my brain would have been Able to hear it without my emotions and feelings.
Abusers are nasty bulllies underneath. Abuse does not Just go away because we will it to. It needs to be faced And processed what was done To us. I am so glad you Are reaching out for DV support. Abuse is something i Am still struggling with, it is holding me back.
I never wanted to look at my xah as an abuser. He certainly Became one. All the signs were there, he came from it so Did i. Both of our mothers were abusive and still are, his Mother Hides it better than mine.
-- Edited by Mirandac on Friday 7th of August 2015 06:58:05 AM
Miss M - that accurately describes what I felt like with the OP it was more for me to be mindful of my own behavior and it was a big reminder to watch myself. So I always asked myself is this going to help my case or hurt it. It helped me keep my behavior in check even now. When he acts crazy I just let him .. After all he's going to do or not do what he's going to do. I cab only control me. Big hugs you are doing great. What helps me is to remind myself he has far more to lose than I do. I am safe and he can't hurt me. You are doing great!
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I am incredibly touched by your growth. To know deep within that you and your daughter are worthy of safety and serenity is so big. You are brave.
I see no need at all to apologize for the details. It's all important. I learn from all of us.
Nicely done - what a great job using the tools available to you. I applaud the way you handled this entire situation and love that it was all done with respect. You've showed amazing courage to self-protect!
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I am strong in the broken places. ~ Unknown
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another! ~ Anatole France
This is so great and inspiring to hear. I keep thinking of the usual phrasing - "This call be may recorded for quality purposes" - you've got those quality purposes going! It also shows how he really, really doesn't understand how immaturely he's coming across. The lack of self-awareness is just mind-boggling sometimes, isn't it? I can see your power and health and self-determination growing by leaps and bounds. Inspiring!
I really am so proud of you sister! I believed my exAH for so long that I was crazy and just a B@$%*, but with time in al-anon and 4 years apart I realize I am non of those things and would never allow for the treatment I allowed in my past. I too never called the police in times when I possibly should have, but I feared getting him in trouble and the repercussions. I deserve better and so do my children, I will no longer accept unacceptable behaviors that means no verbal, mental or physical abuse, no withholding affection or attention or any manipulations from those I love around me. Since I have done the work and have grown through a lot of my old beliefs that did not suit me or my life, I feel amazing and free of the dysfunctions of old. I am so glad to hear your growth and for you to continually making the changes. You deserve to be treated with respect and for those that are unwilling, you are putting safe guards in place for your serenity. I am so happy to be walking this journey with you!
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If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see? (Lewis Caroll)