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Hello everyone! I might be new to this forum but I am definitely not new to being the daughter of an alcoholic mother. I think I am ready to cut all ties with my mother after 18 years of dealing with her crap. Heres my story. Please advise me as I have been going back and forth with the issue of finally saying "I'm done with her" for years now.
My mother started to drink when I was 10 due to "stress". I was doing my family's laundry by the time I was 12 at the local laundromat because she couldn't keep up with her duties as a mother.
Fast forward to high school where my father finally left her. Thats when she started becoming verbally harsh with me. I eventually chose to live with her because I felt bad. (That is where i always fail, I always end up feeling bad)
Anyway, as I got older, her drinking got worse, our fighting got worse. For example, one day she was drunk and flipped out that i took up two parking spaces in the front of the house. Even though I told her I was just parking for a couple of minutes and going out to leave again, she still went to take a baseball bat to my car. Things got physical, curses were said, hers were slurred of course ... that night I ended up staying out just to stay away from her. This is just one time. I Wont bore you with the other 625 times something similar has happened.
The more she drank the more we fought the more and more i started to hate her.
Fast forward to 23 years old which was when I finally left my house and left her behind me. I didnt completely cut her off but not seeing her bogus drunk behavior was enough for me. I still had my mother, just didnt have to see her or talk to her if i didnt want to. Now, at 25 I ended up getting married and having my first child. 16 months later I found out I was pregnant again, only this time my landlord was selling the house i lived in with my new family. Unfortunately, this meant moving back home (temporarily) with my now husband, 16 month old daughter and pregnant self. She was happy to have us. She was very helpful during this hard time for my family. I thought things would be ok. I was wrong.
She drinks every night. Falls into the bathroom. There were times where I saw dried up blood on her eyebrow, forehead, etc from falling the night before. She does this in front of my husband, and my daughter. She has to hold onto the walls to hold herself up. During the day she goes to work so she is sober when she gets home. I don't dare mention her actions from the night before because she either denies it or tells me I'm wrong and walks away to go to her room to drink.
My whole pregnancy she has had really bad arguments with me while she was drunk. Of course bringing up the past, or arguing about how she has no space in HER house anymore. fights so bad that my husband had to interfere, fearing the baby was in danger. The next day I wouldn't speak to her and shed have no idea why because she didnt remember.
We share the house and she doesn't clean up ever or cook. You would think being pregnant with a toddler less than 2, your mother would help you. But no. She was always too drunk. ID literally be mopping the floor, 8 months pregnant, already diagnosed with a weak cervix and high blood pressure that shed offer to help but instead wobbled around me and asked what I was cooking for dinner.
As i reached closer to my due date I had asked her to please stop drinking just in case I went into labor and I needed her to drive me to the hospital. (She's not allowed to watch my daughter, so I figured giving her that job was simple enough)...2 times i needed her due to false labor and both times I had to take myself because she was too bombed (my husband had to stay behind to watch my daughter)
I always ask her to not drink for special occasions, she promises she won't and she does. She was bombed at my first baby shower, bombed at my first daughters baptism, bombed at my daughters first birthday. She has been drunk around my in laws who are now fully aware that she's a drunk. It makes me even more angry when i ask her nicely to please don't ruin my family functions and she promises up and down that she won't, but she always does.
The big problem is that she is making my life a living hell. We can't move out just yet so I have to deal with living with her for a little while longer unfortunately. But I have made the decision (i think) to just give up on her and cut my relationship off. BUT I LIVE WITH HER! How do I do this? Plus, she always comes to me sober and apologizes, and buys things for my girls...which makes me feel obligated to her forgive her and I'm tired of that! I want to tell her to leave us alone. That she's not allowed to say more than hi to the girls. That she is no longer allowed to family functions because of the embarrassment she puts me through. I shouldn't have to baby sit her or make arrangements for someone to baby sit her for me so that she doesn't cause a scene at my parties (which are always for my kids). I will be baptizing my new daughter soon and I don't want to invite her. Just this past weekend she was at a bbq with my in laws which i hesitantly invited her to like an idiot and she made a fool of me again. Making fun of me in front of my mother in law. So bad that my mother in law came inside and asked me if I was ok. And that she couldn't believe my moms behavior toward me. I WAS MORTIFIED.
my question to you all is : should i forgive her AGAIN for the 625th time? Ive threatened to leave her millions of times. Told her shed lose her grandchildren if she kept this up. She keeps doing it. She doesn't respect me or my family. She doesn't get help. She gets worse. How can I tell her nicely she's not invited to my family parties anymore? How can i cut ties with my mother when i live with her? help me =(
Meetings, high tail it, there are online ones here if travelling is an issue. If it were all as easy as making up ones mind, the end, well we wouldn't be here, all of us, each far too familiar with the bamboozlement that is alcoholism. It sounds like you've been robbed of a mother. That's a very painful thing. It also sounds like your trying to parent her, a very confusing and frustrating thing, I know from experience. Everything's upside down. Meetings. Meetings. Literature. Glad you found us, keep coming back.
So Sorry to Hear of your Struggles with your Mom, but Congrats on your New baby :)
I Can't Tell you What or How to Deal with your Mom because Only You can do that, but What i Can Say is... You are in a Wonderful place for Support & Love Right here at MIP and I would Look in the White pages of your Phone book and Find a Local Al-Anon Meeting in your Area and Attend My First MEETING :) Having Local Support will be a Huge Help in your On Going Problems with your Mom...
This Program teaches us to Be Happy with or Without our Alcoholics in our home or surroundings... I Learned that I Enabled My Parents more then I Helped them and My Dad Died from Alcohol at 58 yrs old, but his Death brought me to al-Anon... I can tell you I Screamed at him, Begged him to Quit, Tried the "Grandchild" Card, and His Disease was Sicker then I Ever thought... Because he didn't want to Quit and seen No Problem with his Crazy behaviors... I have had Fist Fights with my Dad, Screaming Fights In bars, and alot of my Holiday's I Took his Gifts to the Bar because that is on only place I Could Find Him...
I got into Al-Anon and It Changed My Life, If Gave me a better way of Thinking and It Also Got me Sober... Al-anon Not only Allowed me to Deal with the Alcoholic in My World (My Whole Family) but it allow me to see How I Could do it Different and break the Cycle of Insanity even if it Meant I had to leave them in the Past... My Life Became Very Different then what I was Use to in My Growing up...
There are So Many Tools in this Program that can Help you Cope with Everyday Ick from this Disease... There are Daily Meetings Here, and This board is also A Life Saver... Look Up Detachment, and Read some of the Al-Anon books, Daily readers, or the big Book of AA, or "Getting them sober" All Wonderful Books to teach the Disease of Alcoholism so You can better understand Where the "Crazy" Comes from... but let me say... you Are No Where Near Alone in This..
So Please... Keep Coming Back, Keep Sharing, Keep Reaching Out, and thru the Reading & Learning you will see that things can go better Even on the Bad days without Screaming or Engaging in "her" Insanity... Sounds like you have Plenty on Your Plate to take care of with your growing Family... Take Care of You ;)
Welcome Jacklynn, I am so pleased that you found our board and had the courage to share with such honesty and clarity. It certainly sounds as if you have been living with with this dreadful disease of alcoholism for quite some time. I am sorry to hear of the pain and suffering that you endured in your lifetime.
Alcoholism is a progressive, chronic, fatal disease over which we are powerless. AA is the recovery program for the alcoholic and because we have been negatively affected by the disease we too need a program of recovery of our own. Al-Anon is that program.
Before making any decision as to how to handle your mother or what action to take , I suggest that you find Al-Anon face-to-face meetings in your community and attend. The hotline number is found in the white pages.
It was in Al-Anon that I was given constructive tools to live by and a supportive community to help break the isolation caused by the disease. I learned to keep the focus on myself, act in my own best interest and not react, live one day at a time and that since I was powerless over others. I must take care myself and allow them the same .
I too welcome you Jacklynn! So glad you found us and glad you are here.
Your share was honest and powerful. I am sorry for how this disease is affecting you and has affected your mother.
As Betty says, the disease of alcoholism is a cunning, baffling, powerful and progressive disease. It is chronic in that it's never cured, only treated and arrested with recovery. It affects all who love and/or live with an alcoholic. There are no one size fits all answers or solutions for either side - an alcoholic or their loved ones. There is only recovery - with our without the other.
I too recommend that you seek support locally as well as through online resources in Al-Anon. I learned in Al-Anon how not to react to the craziness, how to not engage in the drama and how to live and enjoy my life no matter what anyone else is doing around me.
Keep posting and asking questions - we will help if we can! Again, so glad you are here!
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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene
It is indeed a very frustrating time, and unfortunately I am unable to physically attend meetings because of my schedule with my children. I will, however, look into the online meetings as often as I can. I am at my breaking point, and i just want some peace. I want to feel a sense of freedom. Maybe I am being close minded, but I really don't know how meetings will help. Yes of course I will learn ways to possibly tune her out or not enable a situation BUT, me attending meetings will never stop HER from doing the things she does. Unfortunately, my kids will see the dr jeckyll and mr hyde. Fortunately, they are too young to notice now, but they will. And I'm not sure if I'm willing to accept that. Thank you for your response. It does feel nice to know that I'm not alone.
The meeting schedule here is up at the top - left hand side. This program is not about helping the alcoholic recover or get better. It's about how we can find peace and move forward with happiness in spite of what they are doing. You are not alone!! Everything you feel has been experienced by one/most/all of us.
For tonight, just breathe, breathe, breathe and do one nice thing for you - bubble bath, walk, read a book....just one thing for you.
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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene
Hi again, living with the disease of alcoholism, we each develop many negative coping tools that stay with us for a lifetime, unless we seek a program of recovery. We are also filled with anger, resentment, self-pity and fear caused by the insanity of the disease and unless we find a way to release those negative emotions they too will stay with us.
Al-Anon's recovery program is designed to help us do this. The program is for us to recover and is very little to do with the alcoholic's recovery.
I do understand that it is difficult for you to attend face-to-face meetings so I have copied our online meetings schedule below as well as the web address. I urge you to seek help for yourself
Morning Meetings
Mon. - Fri. at 9am EST
Sat. - Sun at 10am EST
Each Sunday morning at 10 am EST, we will be having a Spiritual meeting with a topic relating to the Spiritual part of our program.
Hi Jacklynn, My first time ever posting to a chat room or attending an online Al-anon gathering. I started searching online this evening because of behaviors I'm noticing in my sober husband. But your post caught my attention. Neither of us are alone. I do know how you feel and that seems like a pretty presumptuous statement. My Mom died of alcoholism at the age of 50. I was barely 28. I had two little children. I thought grand babies might help her sober up, ha that didn't happen. The last day I saw my mom alive was my daughter's first birthday. Mom had not seen us for 90 days, but she was 90 days sober and that was the magic number I had invented as a marker to take my children to see my mom and celebrate that everything would be better. What a crazy time, one of many...as you say 625 :). Oh boy, the memories this invokes. I must say that I did absolutely love my Mom, one of my best friends as a teenager. As the drinking got worse I finally came up with a coping mechanism. I had Mom and Elizabeth B. B meant Bad :) and this is how I coped with the person I loved who was absolutely awful sometimes. I should go to Alanon, but I'm pretty sure I'm right when I say that when she behaves badly towards you it shouldn't mean that she's made a fool of you. I know its embarrassing, but really its she who should be embarrassed, we don't control them and Lord knows I don't want that job anyway. I remember when we were out at the community pool and mom stood up, stumbled and dropped her towel, oh did I mention her top too. I thought about running over to her and being embarrassed for a minute, then I decided she's a grown woman and she can get herself back in the house. (there were no kids present to be traumatized) So the way I learned to handle the situations you mention is I disconnected, I set boundaries, she would do stupid things and I'd just say I love Mom but Elizabeth B is present right now. When she'd behave like this when I was around I'd step back and let her figure her way out of her situation. I would keep an eye out though so she wouldn't get hurt or wander into the street (enabler I guess) I sound like a nut, but this really did help. It helped me be able to love my Mom and hate the behavior caused by the disease. and we can not fix them. I set boundaries. I wouldn't always answer the phone or run down there as I had... "625 times". The day she died she called me, AGAIN, to say she was sick. This time I said call 911 and have them call me if they keep you at the hospital. They picked her up, but they didn't call until the morning. I don't think she got the treatment my Mom deserved, but I guess she got the treatment Elizabeth B had earned by calling wolf so many times. She died in the morning. I was by her comatose side, babies at home. Another thing I did while she was alive, was I did everything I could think of to help her get help so that when/if this time came I would not feel guilty and that helped a lot. So I hope you go enjoy your babies and I'm sorry you are going through this at this precious time. Take care of you and your little ones, that's your job now.
Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene