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Realism


I play a computer game, Shanghai, it is a match the tiles game and when you clear the board a little saying pops up.  Today, the saying was "Your realism will avoid unpleasant surprises." 


Sometimes I often think the timing of these sayings is pretty funny.  Last night as I was trying to sleep (had a bad headache and had just dozed off), the phone rang, 1:30 a.m., it is hubby telling me he had cancelled his 2 credit cards and wanting me to pay the balance off.  I was unable to fall back asleep until 5:30 a.m., head pounding, upset, knowing the only time he does this sort of thing is when he is angry because he can't get money out for drinking/gambling. 


This morning I called the credit card companies to verify the accounts were closed - they are.  There had been credit available, but not for cash withdrawal.  The balances on the card tell me no further purchases had been made.  Breath of relief for that much at least. 


I am tired.  I am angry.  The realism of my situation is that my hubby is not only an A, but an A gambler.  Anytime we get $$ in the bank account, he feels free to blow hundreds of dollars in a night.  It is like the capacity to understand that there are future bills coming up, that loans must be repaid, is beyond him.  We talk about doing things to improve our future, to have something to retire on, and I am really good at planning this sort of thing, at dealing with finances, etc.  But then he goes and does this every single time.  I am tired.  I am angry.


I feel cheated.  I feel lied to.  I feel I cannot trust him.  I do not want to pretend that everything is okay, I will not pretend it is.  I will be telling him how I feel.  I am going through the beginning of the "change of life" for women - the stress (and this is per doctor) makes everything worse...headaches, cramps, etc.  I do care that he is on the road (truck driver) and alone - I can feel for him, I can appreciate how hard he works to support us.  But I work hard too to keep this family and home going smoothly.  I deserve some caring and support also.  In an equal partnership (marriage), you talk with each other and make decisions together.  You don't go behind each other's back and sabotage what you are working towards. 


The alcoholism is one thing, adding the gambling on top of that is breaking my back.  It is destroying the trust.  What is a relationship without trust?  Not much. 


I know he is "sick".  I know that both of these addictions are a disease.  I know that I am powerless over that.  But I also know that I have the right to stand up for myself, for our family, for our future, and say how I feel.  Whether that solves anything, well I don't know.  Time for me to look realistically at what I can and cannot live with.  Nothing changes if nothing changes.... can I remain in this relationship if he refuses to get a handle on his problems?  I don't know.  I don't want to leave.  Am I enabling by being the financial wiz and coming up with solutions to keep us afloat?  Or am I simply protecting the family?  I don't know.  I've questioned that often.  Do I just not communicate well enough to him about the financial situation, about how I feel, etc?  Maybe.  Ha, no one ever said life was easy.  Finding the right path can be so hard sometimes.


Thanks for listening. 



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Last time my A called me about money I set a big limit.  He called to ask me to pay a speeding ticket he had. He had got the ticket when he was with me therefore it was my fault. That's some of the way his logic falls.  I  used to try to help the A a lot with his financial stuff. I filed a tax return for him once now I am responsible for the tax mess.  I opted out of that one.


I am trying really hard to un-emesh on that one.  We share some bills. I am equally responsible for the rent which he usually pays late (that will some day affect my credit and ability to rent I am sure).  We currently share a vehicle or should I say he goes out of his way to be uncooperative in that regard.  In theory one of his cars will be fixed this year but being as destructive as he is a car does not last long with him. The car that currently needs repairing is a new one that he already ran into the ground with his style of driving.  He says that even with the warranty he has to pay $1K he does not have to fix it.


I think it is very difficult to un-emesh but I do try the best I can to uninvolve myself in his stuff.  I pay my own bills on time and focus on my own stuff.  I have stopped trying to rescue and sort out his mess.  I know at some point given that he has driven himself deep into debt the IRS and other people will come after him and probably put a lien on his accounts.  I am hoping that will be a long time down the road.


I hope you get a chance to un-emesh because the idea of late night phone calls (that is what I got about the speeding ticket) is decidedly chaos making.


Maresie.



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The "is it enabling or am I merely taking care of myself, and incidentally of the A" debate is one I'm familiar with. Probably the fact that you are so good with money is part of why he feels he can gamble - nothign REALLY bad ever happens, you always manage to pull the fat from the fire.
You may find that it will be necessary to have bank accounts that he does not have access to.

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Hi Kis wish I could give you a hug - you have supported myself and so many others on this board.  My husband and myself have always had separate bank accounts and credit cards.  There obviously are bills we pay separately that apply jointly to the house etc but I have always valued the independence I have.  We are both responsible for our own savings and paying our own credit cards.  Is there some way that you can have your name taken off the card?  By doing this he is responsible for his own actions.  You can then set the boundary of him taking care of his own needs.  Keep your chin up.  Luv Leo xx

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((((((((((((Kis)))))))))))))))))),


I play dat game too ~ helps me sort my crazy head - tee hee.


I just wanted to say that we love ya in here and support you.  I know if won't solve everything but just knowing others care is important too.  Keep coming and keep sharing that HP's plan will reveal itself to ya.


Love Maria



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But then he goes and does this every single time. I am tired. I am angry.

(((Kiss)))

I just went thru something similar but not with money. I "expected" my A to come home and see my sons face when he saw his car in the driveway. I called him at the bar (on his cell) and said that son will be home in 30 min. if he wants to be involved. He said he "wouldn't miss it" and would be right home. As usual, he missed it by about 3 hours. My mind went on vacation somewhere and I was sure he would be there. After all, it wasn't for me, it was for our son.

I talked to my very wise sponsor about it. I heard the old familiar saying "Why are you going to the hardware store for bread?"
She said...He has NEVER been there at the appropriate times, when he is, he is NEVER sober. He has let you down time and time again. Why did you call expecting something different?

LOL! Of course I felt like an idiot. I knew better but it didn't cross my mind that he would miss out on this one time event. As soon as she said it I thought DUH!!!!
This is the same man that I called at the bar to tell him I was in labor and came home 90 min later because he knew it'd be a few hours. The same guy that has been drunk for every birthday (his, mine and kids) , anniversary and holiday. This has gone on for 20 yrs....Allrighty then!!!

We think "normally", the addict doesn't. The addiction seems to come first no matter what. It takes over all rational thought. Last week I forgot and expectations crept in.

So..knowing that, I have to change the way I think and remember that I not only have to lower my expectations, but just about reduce them to zip, nuttin, nodda!!!!
Someone suggested that you get a seperate account, that's a real good idea.

Do what you have to do to keep your family afloat. If the money isn't there, he can't spend it. It's not controlling, it's protecting you and the kids. If he says "I work for it" yadda yadda..try siphoning half of it out..lol

Love you
Christy



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Finding the right path. Wow this is what I keep asking my HP for. Show me the right path, and give me the strenght to actually take it.

There isn't anything I can say that you don't already know, just know that I'm we are here for ya.

Bob

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"In an equal partnership (marriage), you talk with each other and make decisions together.  You don't go behind each other's back and sabotage what you are working towards. "


Wow, I can relate... when I was married my ex(husband/addict) bought a car & never discussed it w/ me - well it was his money, wtvr.


My step-father gambles hundred, thousands... has cheatted for 15+ yrs...  he makes the moeny but my mom at least did lock him out.  He lives in the efficiency pool house (which was his home office).   


I used to be angry 'cause I had sacrificed myself for the family & worked for the family most of my life being 'taught' that the family was more important than the individuals, yet the A was up on a pedestal & catered to.  Hell, I ate his left-overs, he is so wasteful & doesn't care about anything...  my mom adored & worshipped the ground he walked on.


sick, sick, sick.  Now I am beginning to see her just like the A...  she doesn't want to know how I feel therefore she doesn't really want to know me intimately or is afraid of herself intimately from being numb & fozen for so long.  And I've been abandonned & floating in the wind taking the pain like a sponge & watching them both suffer & grow farther apart, all the while the A abusing us verbally.  Telling us how tired & burnt out we are.  No support, he never cared.  He still doesn't. 


Now that he isn't pretending to go to mtgs anymore & is back active ~ he's not quite so mean.  It just sucks, he has worked so hard & is spending it all like a rock star, taking limousines to the airport drunk to go see his 26 yr old g/f in dallas all week ~ I've worked myself into disability & he's blowing my inheritance on lap dances & jewelry for this young women that left her 3 yr old baby & husband for a drunken gambling adulterous liar.


All I can do is deatch & know it would take him yrs to even have a clue about what I have suffered these 26 yrs having him in my life. At least I have been feeling ~ he's the one that can escape in his numb/sick world.


I can't talk to either of them, I decided to give up for my NY's resolution & (going on 38) focus on myself for the first time in my whole life.


hang in there, ur sissy in recovery, love, -Kitty of Light



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