The material presented
here is not Al-Anon Conference Approved Literature. It is a method
to exchange
information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal
level.
It is no longer safe for me to remain in this room, nor do I wish to.
I have been asked by ownership and members to leave immediately, permanently, forthwith and all as of midnight eastern tonight. At least they had the decency to let me say goodbye...
**From John (aka OP_Present) Founder and Webmaster of Miracles In Progress 12 Step Recovery Forums.
The statement made above by Mike, (aka Haximon) has no resemblance of truth to it whatsoever. He has not been asked to leave the website, this message board, or the Al-Anon chat room by any member of MIP, be it myself as the founder, any MIP board member, group member, or message board user. Nor has he been banned from any area of this web site. He stated in the chatroom on 10/04/05 that he had recieved an email from me banning him from the site, which is not true at all. He made this statement before I even sent the email I did send to him which is on this message board unedited. Prior to this email there has been no email communications between Mike and myself in several months, (approx. 6 months) and even then it was related to my inquiring if he was interested in being a chairperson or op in the chat room. This false statement appears to be one of several methods he is accustomed to utilizing to manipulate and deceive the users of this board and chat room members. I personally view such a deceptive statement's sole purpose to be an affort to further expand on his ongoing story of woe, (poor me) and an very real attempt to create controversy, disharmony and division on our site, as a form of retaliation for having been addressed so forthright regarding his repeated misuse of this site and its members to gain financial donations for personal use. He has not been banned, asked to leave and is not banned or being asked to leave at this time. However, should he continue this sort of behavior I will be moved to ban him from it indefinetely as I take a very distaste for someone attempting to cause chaos, confusion, conflict, controversy at the expense of our site and its members.
Now I will let you return to read his story of woe. I have edited his full name, address and phone number from the content of his post and all else remains as written.
I am having my 4th crying jag in 24 hours over this...I can no longer stand the private and public backlash for my wrong actions that is being placed my way. John's e-mail to me was particularly vitriolic and unnecessary. (All is forgiven and I wish no one ill).
It was a pleasure to serve. Thank you for everything.
You apologized, what more could you do? I know in my heart you had no intention of ripping anyone off, only to "survive".
I understand the views of others... but in comparison to the service you have given and the COUNTLESS people you have helped and nurtured ..I am truly just stunned and sickened.
I've always thought that banning had to be taken by vote.
Christy
-- Edited by Christy at 14:05, 2005-10-05
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If we think that miracles are normal, we will expect them. And expecting a miracle is the surest way to get one.
You are and have been invaluable to this site and we need you here more than you will ever know! I feel you are in a very vulnerable spot right now and are having intensive emotional feelings from being homeless. Please come back when you feel more calm and safe. This site needs you! I know what it is like to have crying jags and be in an emotional turmoil. We do not think clearly at those times and things seem so overwhelming. This too will pass haxi. Things will be better and all will be well. You made your apology and made amends.I for one do not want you to leave and I know others who want you back asap. WE do care about you here and need you back. cdb
You have done so much for everyone here. You were, and still are a great person, and I am at a loss for words here.......You will be dearly missed. I dont know what all this is about, and it is none of my business, but I am very sad that it has come to a decision such as this. Stay strong Mike, your a good guy and things will work out for you, just have faith. Keep working your program.
Mike.... I also hope you will reconsider... I am not aware that anyone was asking you to leave the board, but simply to stop using the board to solicit financial donations. Your input into this board and to others make us better, and I would hope that you stay on.
Take care
Tom
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"He is either gonna drink, or he won't.... what are YOU gonna do?"
"What you think of me is none of my business"
"If you knew the answer to what you are worrying about, would it REALLY change anything?"
I can understand ppl stepping in & requesting to stop soliciting but why would you have to leave the Boards/site -- that seems ridiculous to me, personally.
I had no idea about anything you were going through, I do remember when you moved, I was reading the boards everyday... I've been ill for a month, so I wasn't even signing on.
I have found "haximon" to be one of those that had very helpful words to share, I will be hurt if you leave & not come back. Actually, I'm a bit confused, honestly... as adults, we make choices freely. If I were to give to someone or something, it is private business & I sort of resent the implication that we are all so fucked up or wounded that we can be so easily manipulated, I mean, really!
So again - b4 anyone confuses what I am saying, I understand the "no solicitaion" however, as long as it isn't an issue in the future, if you are "banned" where is the forgiveness, understanding, we all make mistakes as human beings, it is how we grow.
-k
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Light, Love, Peace, Blessings & Healing to Us All. God's Will Be Done. Amen.
We are all human and we all make mistakes. By the very nature of this disease many of us have found ourselves in financial trouble.
I do agree with the non soliciting rule. We are all vulnerable and often too giving.
Over the years your contributions to this board has been amazing.
You have apologized for everything and I believe that everyone deserves a second chance, especially when they have proven to be so wonderful in the past.
All of us slip, and do things we may regret, that is where compassion comes in.
I hope John reconsiders and offers you another chance. And I hope if given the opportunity you decide to stay on.
If you don't I wish you all the best. May your HP watch over you, and may you find your place in your new life.
So, you made a mistake? We all do that, me, sometimes, more than once! Did John really ban you? Or are you embarrassed, in a bit of a muddled up state?
If you truly do not come back, I will miss you. But I will email you.
This is not right. Why is it ok for someone to say they need a hug, and not ok for someone to say they need money? Both hugs and money and everything else is from God anyway!
This absolutely disgusts me.
Haxi, you have contributed so much love, support & wisdom to me and many others. I don't even think you made a mistake!