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lilms


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((((((((MIP Family)))))))

It is not often I say anything or pot stir but today I am going to do so.

Very recently I have had the displeasure of reading posts that in my opinion contain downright bigotry.  How disgusting!!!

For the majority I can say that my stay on this board has been a safe experience.  There are very few people who make this not so. 

This is for (name edited by tea2)  In my world, I have never been able to tell from a person's posts what their religion or ethnicity is unless they have directly said so.  AND it shouldn't matter.  People are people are people are people.

Thank goodness for diversity.  What a sad, colourless, noiseless world this would be if the world were filled with narrow minded bigots.

From what I have been able to understand this is not a meeting.  We have those twice a day.  This is much more like the meeting after the meeting.  Where people exchange ideas, have conversation, share thoughts etc. 

I have seen many topics on this board which have nothing to do with alanon but have much to do with life.  Thank goodness I do not have to expend all of my energies on the effects of the alcoholic.  How sad that world would be.


So to those of you in my MIP family who are celebrating a birthday, anniversary, religious observance may I wish you the best that this day has to offer!!!

Nuff said.
lilms

-- Edited by lilms at 11:30, 2007-09-13

*Edited - Please lets not start w/ members nicknames or names at this time.

-- Edited by tea2 at 11:34, 2007-09-13

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Well said lilms.

To all on this fabulous board: HAVE A SUPER DAY!!! :)

Much Love,
QOD

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tea2


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((( lilms )))

I can understand your frustration and would like to add a reminder of what this message board is about.

We are Al-Anons and I agree - sharing much like at a coffeehouse after a meeting takes place, where openness of some things is allowed more so than during a meeting.

Just as it states up top this page:

The material presented here is not Al-Anon Conference Approved Literature. It is a method to exchange information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal level.

I also need to remember that we are sick each of us recovering at our own speed and gently remind myself that to me this program is one of patience, love and tolerance

One day at a time.

In recovery,

Tea2/ Tracey


-- Edited by tea2 at 11:48, 2007-09-13

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lilms


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(((((Tea))))))

Thanks for the reminder. We are all at different places.

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Well said, both of you.

Wishing you all Patience, Love, and Tolerance.

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Okay, confused again. One day, people are upset because someone memorialized the deceased of 9/11/01...now people are upset because someone reached out to the Jewish people of the MIP?
My opinion ONLY?!?!?!?!
I didn't do the al anon thing for like ever because my mom told me Jewish people don't have drinking problems and that it was all my fault that my dad was the way he was and that if I really wanted him to stop drinking I'd be a better daughter. And I'm sure you all can fill in the rest given how much sharing I've done here. So when I get here, I say to someone "Oh, please don't tell anyone, God, please don't! If my mom finds out, she'll tell the rabbi, or the priest, or someone---" and he cuts me off and he said "My mom said that methodist people didn't have drinking problems, either. We don't care who has the drinking problem. We care about YOUR problems." **I had never thought of that!!!**
Today I know that Jewish people, Christian people, Muslem people, Hindu people, and All of God's Children can be effected by drinking/drugging. I've met people in this program who are atheist and have incredible programs and have taught me more about program than Torah, Talmud, or any Rabbi, and that says something.
SO, take my opinion for what it's worth, but I'd really hate to see members who challenge my thinking when it gets small and rigid quit because other members are getting all wrapped up in what al anon SHOULD be or OUGHTA be or something like that. We all came here because we were losing ourselves over someone else and their drinking and we all stayed here because we found something bigger than ourselves.
So, like, yeah.

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Well said all of you. This whole thing reminds of a person who called my public TV station and gave us heck because we were doing a pledge drive. I asked if she was a member and she said no. She then proceeded to complain about cable TV. I listened to her for 30 minutes or so. I finally said: "I respect your beliefs, but with all due respect, if you don't want to join that's fine. If you don't like the cable channels either, than you have the option of turning off the TV."

My point is this: it's choice for us to be here. We are wide, diverse group of people. For me, it's what I love about this place. I get to read and respond to all different types of posts. I learn so much from them.  But if there is a post from a person, I may not care for: I don't reply or I may not even read it.  Or if they are in distress I may offer my prayers or best wishes and leave it at that. There are also times that I am not in the right frame of mind to answer posts, so I don't.  It is a choice on how respond to other people.  It is a choice how we treat other people.  We have the choice to treat people kindly, or not. 

If here in this place and time we can't be kind to each other, than I might as well give up, crawl under my bed, and forget about my recovery! Because recovery is about healing and growing.  The fact that I am spending any time at all on this subject, tells me I have a lot more growth ahead of me. I for one, intend to go forth and do that.  Anyone else care to join me?

Love and blessings to you and all.

Live strong,
Karilynn sun.gif

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I think everyone is entitled to their own opionion if they agree or not agree. I think opinions can be heard but it's up to that person to take what they want and leave the rest. I know that there are a few people who hate it when they are not agreed with, maybe their own insecurity, who knows. I don't judge anyone. I could care less what people believe or not believe, if I disagree or have an opinion then it's ok for me to voice it as it was for them to say something in their opinion. You can not be one sided and think that only YOUR opinion is the one that matters and then get mad if someone disagrees.. Not everyone believes the same things. Which is what makes life wonderful.
I think people should agree to disagree and leave it at that. If someone has an issue then they should talk to that person via pm. Yours in recocery. ^i^

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