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And the plot thickens....


So I finally got thru to the "special police" who arrested the A back in November the night before I was leaving on my trip to DC with the kids.  Anywho, I am going tomorrow to get a copy of the police report to try to clear my name with the insurance company.  I learned that this place is a private security agency whose employees are sworn police officers and the guy said they only make one or two DUI arrests per year (I'm hoping for juicy details). 

He also stated that the A would have had to set foot on one of their properties (motels, apartments, railroads and business centers) and in order to get arrested he must have been seriously out of control drunk.  Which I have no doubt.  So I'm looking forward to some educational and entertaining reading tomorrow.  Funny thing is back when it happened I still had hope he would get better and we would be together again and I would have been mad.  Now I just see it as another dab of icing on the cake, and a little dose of truth in the face of so many lies.  

Why does it always feel so good to catch him in a lie?  It's almost like a hah I knew I was right.  Or maybe a I knew all along and should have listened to myself instead of needing proof.  Although getting proof is always rewarding. 

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Carolina girl, your sounding sick hun. Your liking this drama too much. lmbo I hope you find what your looking for. I also hope you can get out of this mess, it sounds really messed up.

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(((Carolinagirl)))

Ditto what Friend said, Hon. Detach, detach, detach. This is just business. Too much drama shows, and it will drain you.

I don't mean to sound critical. We all have slips. I just hope you all will tell me if I don't notice my next one before you all do.

Do something nice for you today. Maybe get your mind off of it for a bit.

In recovery,

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"When you come to the edge of all you know you must believe in one of two things... there will be earth on which to stand or you will be given wings." ~Unknown

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Hey carolinagirl -

Drama? Yea sure it is some drama.....but ya know what, you were just about to get screwed over by an insurance company for a clerical error due to your ex AH's major flub ups. You are working to get this error corrected and who cares if you are enjoying it a little. I say revel in the evidence you are receiving that only reinforces the decisions you have made for you and your kids. More proof to add to the proof you already have that you are better off now than you were then. You are an amazing courageous fabulous woman. You go girl. This is dirt you are getting to clear your name. You are not just digging it up for the heck of it. You are trying to clear your name. Go for it. - But hey that is just my opinion.

Love ya,
QOD

-- Edited by QOD at 16:36, 2007-09-06

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I think what you're looking for is called validation, and yes it does feel good. Alot of times by the time we arrive at our own bottom and come to this program we begin to doubt our own sanity because what we've survived is incredibly insane. Depending on the extent of the dysfunction we look for validation in various areas. The dysfunction was so great in my own case I looked for, and still do, unfortuneately, that the people who were creating it would acknowledge and accept what I was telling them was the truth.
This is very common. But there's an inherent problem with the logic. You don't ask a rock rolling down a hill "Are you rolling down a hill?" You don't ask a gun "Are you a gun?" To go back to the age old "If it quacks like a duck..." because my defenses and mental faculties had been so shattered, it was easier to believe the insanity was all my doing rather than my parents. In your case, it's sweet revenge (yes, I still seek this too) and validation of what Susan Forward calls "A Higher Power" that some entity is telling you "You were right all along. You knew you were. You just didn't trust yourself. The house was burning down all around you. You couldn't trust yourself. But that's over now. Sit back and enjoy the collapse."
Now, here, too, though, there's a problem. The more step work I do, the more time I give, the more space I have, and the more reality that sinks into my soul, I realize that no dysfunction exists in a vacuum. We each bring our shortcomings into a relationship. In my case I am facing the reality that the same feelings of shame, failure, self hatred and anger I imposed on myself (this way no one could punish me with them) and that I lived with on a daily basis were imposed and placed upon my parents. Most, if not all, of the failures in parenting my parents gave to me were given to them. My mother, I know for a fact, was not wanted; as the 8th of 10 children in a "good catholic family" her family was abjectly poor, acholic, dysfunctional, domestically violent, and very probably incestuous. I feel so sad for my mother: more and more, the woman had a chance the few years she was sober to deal with her deamons head on, and she chose not to, but to return to the shame (sometimes, the dark side IS safer!). Moreover, I feel sad for BOTH my parents: they have never taken the risk to look at themselves, look at their lives, and challenge the way they were brought up. That maybe, just maybe, their self worth is God determined, not human determined, and they are not the worthless, pieces of sh*** their parents told them they were.
Lucky for YOU however, you have this program. YOU can stop rubbernecking. YOU can reparent yourself and look at the baggage you brought into this relationship. What is it--outside of the validation of this institution--that you are really looking for? Is it that you want revenge on your ex for all those nights when he drove drunk? When he was sleeping around, and you were taking care of 5 screaming kids, sick with the flu? When he was screaming drunk, and all you could do was scream back, knowing in your heart the example it set for the kids? I recommend, strongly, that you sit down with a pad of paper, and look at what you expected when you married him, what you actually got, and where it is you still feel owed. Then, having looked at this, look at where you go today to get your "owes" met. For example, to get my attention from men, I am not above dressing scantily, acting in ways to get attention, or behaving in other ways that I know attract men. I also engage in poor money management, poor eating, and poor self nurturing habits, believing that if I get in enough trouble that some white knight will ride in and rescue me. There is no white knight! I am my own white knight! I have al anon!
In addition, after you seriously look at what current behavior enables your "owing", I would also strongly recommend how you could rechannel it. For example, I learned that dressing in classy, professional suits was a much better way to attract attention from men than dressing llike a slut. I also learned that shopping irresponsibly was getting me nothing but overdrafts; however, shopping at the jewlery counter during clearance season got me fantastic sales.

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i do not    relate at all. He is a very sick person. he does not choose to be in his situation.

To get pleasure from reading about a loved ones trouble, well something is wrong here.

Not entertaining reading  to me. Horribly sad.This is a father to some great kids.

I would feel very badly to do this,invading his privacy. My first husband got drunk and run over. Did not give me any pleasure to read his bal was enough to kill him.

my second husband had a medical relapse. has been in all kinds of messes. sure does not give me pleasure to know.sure would not look for it.

I am sad both men I loved so very much had and have a horrible disease that took away my childrens daddies, and two fine men I love.

hmmm love,debilyn


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You know what I can relate to is the total lack of trust that you have in the A. I have no trust anymore in the A and I am having to look at that that was there for a long long time. There were all the people he chroncially brought to the house and invaded my space with. Keep in mind I slept in the living room most of the time. There were all the speeding tickets that he had. There was my pleading with him over and over to stop acting crazy. There were years of hsi claiming to be out working all the time. There were years of his cliaming he didn't get paid. He did get paid he just spent it on something else then hit me up for what he could get.

What was in there for me in the keeping on trying was the chronic self dobut. When I left the A in April May this year I knew he was in deep deep trouble. I knew it in my bones. I could feel it. I knew he was right on the edge of not surviving. That was one reason I spetn a lot of time looking for him and trying to work out where he was. I had only my intuition to go on. So yes I do relate not to the drama, no who nees drama but the validaiton here it is I can trust msyelf. I can trust that I know when he's out there.

I can at the moment trust my intution that he is going to jail. I relish talking to his Uncle because he relies on that intuition too. He has said repeatedly that the A has dug a hole he cannot get hmsself out of.

I believe that what you are expriencing is not a rel`ishing tha thte A is in big trouble. He was always in that its a coming back to self of being able to trust hourselves again. i lost that in my relationship with the A. I put him first. I put his needs before my own for years. I let him tred all over me. I did not know what to do about his lies because he snowed me constantly. He also lived and still continues to live in contant unremitting chaos. Getting out of that is tricky. it is not simply walking away for some of us. There is no cutting losses and moving on because you have to find out what is the truth in the middle of this seas of lies, half truth and inuendos and that's complicated by the unremitting mess. For some of us the mess may take years and years to clean up. I am no longer cleaning up the A's mess but I am protecting myself and trying to make my life better. Some people have some idea that that is easy but it isn't.

I admire your resolve, your creativity and your strength to keep at this. I do hope you manage to get your record straightened out.

Maresie.

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