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What to do......


I have been making myself sick over this one.
My A has been drinking almost daily for months. It has been horrible around here......I am the only one working right now, full time, overnight stocking for Wal-mart. I don't have my own car right now, so I am using his to get to work and back. He does some of the housework, cooks every now and then. Actually, he does this the most when he is drunk, all the while telling me what a lazy bum I am because I am not doing it, even though I do housework of some kind daily, and thats ALL I do on my days off. I cannot stand being around him anymore. Cant stand the thought of how gullible I was to let him back in, can't stand his constant name calling and critisisms. Can't stand the feeling that I am drowning in a black hole devoid of affection and companionship.

So now today he tells me that when my tax return gets here in the next few days, we need to send almost the whole thing (2500 dollars) to his parents, to pay them back for money they loaned him over the past few years. He says this is my responsibility because part of the money was to repair the car a couple of months ago, and now I am driving the car to get to work. He also says that if I don't do this, he will not allow me to drive the car, and then I won't be able to have a job anymore.

What I really want to do is pay my bills up to date, and put the rest in an account so that I have it when he leaves me, goes back to jail, goes back into rehab to try and get out of going back to jail, or finally kills himself.  But there won't be enough to buy myself a car if he refuses to let me use his, and I cannot lose this job over him...... 
What is the right thing to do here?  I feel like a prisoner.


Michele



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((Michele)),

Most of all, I want to let you know - that just because your A says things - it doesn't make them true.  Just because he wants things, doesn't mean that is the way it has to be. 

Before starting recovery, I had no idea that I could say "No" to my A.  That I could say "I'm not comfortable with that option.  That I could say "I'm supporting the household, so then I have a say so in the decisions."   

You have options, you have choices - It's your tax refund & it's his debt.  Is there a friend you work with that you can ride with & give a little gas money every pay day?  

Just a few suggestions - Please take care of yourself & know that it is ok do to what is right for you.

Rita

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Hi, I don't know if I can tell you the right thing, just tell you that I can relate.
I am also the only one working in the house, with an A who loves spending money but not always cleaning up. We had a little problem with our tax return too. We filed jointly and he usually gets the money. This year we split it right down the middle. I reall had to be persistant for my own rights. He was ot happy about it, but I am alive.
I also don't have a car. I am getting to work with others (I hate feeling like a bum), getting rides from the A (hate that worse he is always late) and if I have to I will take a cab. I will be able to save money, and if I am patient, a good deal will come my way.
I have often (and still do) feel like a prisoner. The best thing I have done lately is try to work the program and read related books. It doesn't solve pressing problems, but helps achieve a new mindset.
Can you get to work without his car? He makes me mad just hearing about him, but I have also put up with some pretty bad bullying behavior, and he sounds like a bully to me.

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My first question is if he isn't working where is he getting the money to drink ?  second is why isn't he working ?   You may not believe this but u have rights too and when your check comes in i't yours to decide where it will go .  If the money went to help both of u out I agree it should be paid back but if he were doing it you could bet it wouldn't get done . Perhaps pay off your bills   send a little to parents with a thank you *the cost of car repairs * sounds reasonable and save the rest for your self .
And don't count on his leaving anytime soon  he's got it pretty good right where he is , so if he is smart he won't be going any where.

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Did he ask his parents for repair money for HIS car?  Is he working to pay it back to them in any way?  Is any part of the tax return his, did he work at all last yr?

My first thought was  to use part of the money to get a car of your own so he no longer can make threats about HIS car.  Is it only HIS car when he wants to take it from you?..But not when repairs need to be pd for it's yours too.   Doesn't sound too fair to me.

I'd be looking in the paper for cars from private owners rather then a car lot, much cheaper.   That way you'll never be a prisoner.  If you hand over all the money to him your bills won't be caught up anyway.   My son's first car was a little Escort without a scratch on it.  We pd 1500.00.  If you could find something like that you'd still have $$ left for bills.

take what you like and leave the rest...or leave all of it...lol
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Thank you for those suggestions.......I have met a couple of people at work who I trust, and I will talk to them tonight......

To answer your questions, Abbyal, I don't withold all the money from him. So yes, I am providing him with the money that he uses to drink.   I do hide a good bit of it away to make sure I can pay the bills and buy food. Maybe it is wrong to give him any at all, but I have to live here right now, and to deny him any money would make a bad situation even worse.
He isn't working because he has been fired from at least 8 jobs in the last 2 years because of his drinking. Nobody wants to hire him.

And I'm not "counting on him leaving". I know I am stupid for putting myself in this position again.....I believed things were going to be different.  I don't need anyone to point out to me how foolish that was, believe me.

Michele

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To Christy,
He gets his own tax return, whenever he decides to do the paperwork. He didn't work as much as I did, so his won't be as much, and part of his will be witheld due to a student loan he hasn't paid on. When his parents paid for his car repair, I still had a car of my own. When my car broke down, I couldn't afford the repair, and I don't have anyone to call on for money help.  But since I wasn't using his car when he needed the repair, I don't feel I owe the money. His argument is that I should pay them back the money, because if he hadnt borrowed it from them to fix the car, I wouldn't be able to use the car now.

Michele



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         I feel for you, jajanma! He's being a bully. And he doesn't work! If it were me, I would come right out and tell where the money is going. Part can go to the in-laws but due to continuing financial difficulties, the rest has to go towards bills. You could ask him how are the bills that keep the roof over his head going to be paid if you don't work. You don't have to tell him you're squirelling away money for a car of your own. If you have to, maybe you can catch a ride to work with someone. Do not kick yourself for having let him back. You did it because you thought it may work. I would just focus on a plan for myself. It may take a little while to get a car of your own but you can do it. Let him run his mouth. He'll probably shut up after a while if he doesn't get the reaction he's looking for.......Decades ago I was married to a guy who worked while i stayed home with the kids. I felt like a prisoner because I was dependant on him financially. I got a little part time job ( had to get a ride from my brother)and put almost the whole small paycheck in my little bank account and in about 3 mos. or so, I had enough to buy an old car from a private owner. It wasn't the best looking car :o) but it gave me untold freedom!! Not only could I get out and about but I also started a full-time job which enabled me to start saving bit by bit again so I'd have money to buy a newer more reliable car. Nowadays, I will not share anything about the purchase of a car. It will be mine, mine, mine, - from the downpayment, to the insurance, to the loan, to any repairs. It will all be my money in my name! No one will ever be able to use my car as a threat! And the payment of it (plus tiny savings towards a future purchase years from now) will have priority over a lot of other bills because without a car, I can't get to work to earn money to pay bills,etc. :)  Good luck, honey. You will work it out I guarantee......jaja

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Do what ya gotta do, but whatever it is make sure it's for you.  Don't do it out of manipulation. 
If he causes you to quit your job then there won't be any money for him to drink..then what's he going to do?  He may have to find one of his own to support his habit.
I dunno girlfriend, something really irks me about him not working, you bustin your butt to make ends meet, him getting money from you to drink..then having the b*lls to threaten you with taking away the car.  I'd either get my own car or friggin walk..but then I'm pretty bullheaded..lol


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Jajanma,
Please don't beat yourself up about it.  You are not stupid, for thinking things may change, you are just living with the fact that they haven't at this point.  We have all been there in one way or another!  When I have been in the thick of it like this before, I lied about the amount of money I was getting back.  Told him what I HAD to pay and said the balance was his.  This way, I was comfortable with what he got and I took care of what I wanted, which included putting money away in what is not called my "plan b" account.  I don't know if it is too late for that, and others might not agree on the lying part.  I was in survival mode at the time and that was the best I could come up with.  When you ask co-workers about getting rides, you may want to ask if they know of anyone selling a used car.  It is cheaper to buy from private owners, as opposed to the car lots.  A local newspaper would have listings as well under the classifieds.  Good luck.  Keep coming back and posting!  For me, at times this is the only place I can get the support I really need.

Take care of yourself,
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((((Welcome jajanma)))))    a blessing to know that you have choices.  and you do,   have choices .   Alanon is a great program. I hope you will be able to focus on some alanon reading and keep coming back to MIP and or your local Alanon group. There is also a very good MIP meeting and chat room.

please know that your not alone. ((((BiGHuG)))))

i've learned and enjoyed from reading "Courage to Change"   and  "One Day at a Time "   really very good uplifting daily devotionals. found they help my prospective. The inner me., whats most important. whats going on inside. does show on the outside.  i take it  * one day at a time. lol.   I   " turn it over," let HP/God have all the "stuff" that is not mine to take on.   all this may sound trivial now but in time it shows its worth. this program will work if you work it.  so work it your worth it.   believe Your Worth IT.

remember the three cs';  you can not control it, you did not cause it and you can not cure it. 

keep coming back,   so glad your here!
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If its any consolation I live with a bully too. He is a total pig sometimes when it comes to being belligerant. I used to step up to all the bills and soon exhausted my savings. 

A's are really adept at making it all about you.

So what I have learned to do is to withhold information and not say much. Since you are the only bread winner it makes sense that you need a nest egg to pay the bills.  You could as a token pay the parents some of the money.

One thing I have learned is not to argue with the a. I say oh, yes, oh, yes, ok. I don't agree to anything. I also postpone, let me think about it.

Please don't beat yourself up about taking back the A.  We have all done it. We have all been there.  It is pretty normal to give them another chance. I've given the A I live with umpteen chances.  I have lost count of them. I used to move out when I had the money then come back and believe he was really going to try. Within an hour of coming back I knew it was a lie.

I think it takes a lot of courage to come here and speak your truth.  My truth is pretty ugly.

I also know that I worked at night for a while and it was hell to be around the A. He had no respect for the fact I needed to sleep during the day. His cronies were knocking on the door and all. 

So one action you can do is to do and say little.  Be vague, be non specific and take care of you.  Doing that one day at a time gives you clarity.  You have options remember that.  You are not trapped. I'm not going to give you the big lecture of you chose him. I don't think anyone chooses to be miserable, put upon, lied to, bullied and chastised all the time. There are still elements of the A that I find attractive. I know he seduced me totally being the person who could not do enough for me.  That person is now gone.  His alcoholism progressed.  Nevertheless the A can at times still be super nice.  I watch for those moments because the inconsistency is some of what hooks me back in.

I am glad you have established yourself in the job.  Don't let his bullying sway you.  For whatever reason some A's dump. I am no longer a dumping ground. I do better with that some days than others. I keep my eyes on what do I need to do next.

Thank you for posting.  It is so so so helpful to me to know I am not alone in dealing with this craziness.

Maresie.

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I'd keep my tax return if I were you. No advising here...simply stating what I would do.  He doesn't seem to want to share anything with YOU...like having a J-O-B!!!!!  I vote for letting him dig his own way out of this one.  They can be so completely unreasonable.  YIKES!!!  Whatever happens, I wish you well. 

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