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Crack??? what are the signs??


(((Everyone)))

Recently my A has thrown the word "crack" into conversation in a joking manner. It's happened serveral times over the past couple of months, and each time I thought how weird. So I resolved to ask him about it the next time it came up. Well he called last night -- which for the past 4 months or so has been really rare--and he jokes about something to do with crack. I say I wouldn't know, he says not that he does either, just what he's seen on 20/20 type shows.

Is this my paranoia? Thru my life I have had the greatest ability to deny things. Just like finding dope in my mail box and believing it wasn't his-- because he said it wasn't. The list is endless. There is no doubt that my A is progressing, only this would be a big jump -- I no nothing about his drug, what it does, how it affects them. I only see him twice a week now when he comes to see the kids, he's more or less quit coming by here any other time and his visits are much shorter.

I've resolved to keep a hands off approach to everything, and am doing my best with this -- this doesn't so much have to do with my obsession w/ what he's doing as it does with protecting myself and doing what is best for us. I have my plan, only I'm thinking that I might aught to speed things up. I don't know....am I just being paranoid?

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Dear Lunamoth -

I don't know if his joking about crack is his way of telling you he is using or not. But crack is not a joking matter. My AH is using crack. Now he doesn't use around me or the kids......he disappears for days at a time while he is using. But I can tell you that after he started using, he started distancing himself from family and friends....anyone NOT in the crack world he was involved in.

When he would come home after a bender and be in the foulest mood and sleep for days. Now I am not the best at picking up on when he is getting ready to disappear but after he does, I think to myself, "Now why didn't I see that coming?" In fact, the last time - just last week, we got into a huge fight b/c he was criticizing me and my family, saying we were selfish and only thought of ourselves. Then he disappeared the next day for a few days.

Crack is a nasty addiction. I will pray that your A is not getting involved in it. Things can get pretty ugly and I know that I haven't even seen the worst of it yet - And pray that I never do.

Good Luck to you.
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Hi LunaMoth,

Sounds more like paying attention to red flags to me. My A would throw out little hints like that at times. I always thought I was paranoid for a while until the truth came to light.

On the other hand a couple of years ago I kept running into people who would jokingly make comments about so and so's behaviour ... "he/she is on crack". Meaning they were out of their mind or something along that line. It really bothered me to hear these people making light of a situation like that. I guess I'm too close to someone who's decisions and thinking is affected by drugs to joke abour it that way.

Signs I saw ... weight loss, wide rapid mood swings, sleep patterns are eratic, loss of interest in activities, tooth decay. I'm sure it varies from person to person.

Jennifer


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my ex ah is a recovering alcoholic/crack addict. crack being his "drug of choice". when we got together i knew he had done coke but wasn't anymore and was just smoking pot, drinking. at the time alot of our friends were experimenting with crack which is not the type of drug that you can "experiment" with. from what i have heard from addicts and read crack is instantly addictive. one time and that's it. anyway, my ex ah and i got sober, had a baby, got married, bought a house, had good jobs and one december night he didn't come home from work. i was a nervous wreck. i honestly could not imagine where he was except in a ditch with the car. i called the police and they filed a missing persons all the while hinting that they really thought he would be found in a nice warm bar or drug house. which again i believed was impossible....we don't drink or do drugs. finally, a friend of his from work called me at like 3 in the morning and told me my ah had been smoking crack with one of the guys from work. on some level i knew it was true. but i wanted to believe my husband. so, i did. for along time. he addmitted he was smoking crack but not for a long long time. he would hint at it. we would have discussions about it, the evils of it. but he really didn't come clean with me till he was at a bottom. and he was broke, and sick and scared. when he'd smoke crack he'd be gone for days at a time. he wasn't violent unless he was not high and wanted to get high and felt that i was in his way. he worked aa and got sober, relapsed, got sober, relapsed etc....

crack addiction lead him to steal from me and my family and his family. it lead to my eventual breakdown trying to fix it. it has lead to years of his life gone. it eventually lead him to sex for drugs, affairs, no feelings for his children, and no desire to live unless he was high. seems like a fast forward version of alcoholism. today we are divorced and the only clue i would have to know if he was using again would be if he disappeared for days. that is how i knew. he wouldn't call or come home. i understand your situation is different. my best suggestion would be to make extra sure that your protected finacially, that he has no access to your money accounts (check with the bank because even being divorced all it takes is a pursuasive crack addict and a naieve bank teller). what is said about crack addicts is true. they would steal from their beloved grandma and their children to get high. maybe not the first binge, or the second, or even the third. but they get to that point and it is horrifing to see. crack brings on a psycotic break. it kills, not just deadens or numbs, all feeling. my lesson was a hard one to learn. i keep my jewlery hidden, checking account info, any cash i have or the kids have out of sight. and he is sober again. everytime i let him borrow my car i do it with the full awareness that it might not come back. he used to trade the use of the car for crack....very popular thing to do apparently.

sorry this is such a long reply and i don't know if it helps much. crack is such an issue with me obviously. i think the best i did and could do is to keep the focus on myself and do the footwork to keep myself safe money-wise and physically. good luck and i'll say a prayer that he hasn't discover this evil.

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Ok so I know that this was originally Lunamoth's post but I just read serendipity's post - all I can say is "My Goodness!" Thank you for posting that! I AH is heading down that very road and I am working hard to get my life set up w/out him. I am in the middle of trying to decide on kicking him out of my new house or letting him stay. He is on the couch presently but last night tried to get me into the bedroom with him. It has been a long hard dark road that I have traveled with him but from the looks of your post, it is going to get a lot darker and scarier. A real eye opener. Thank you.

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weight loss (my AH couldn't get over 165-170 and he is 6'4"), mood swings, burned eyelashes--look as if they have been singed, glassy eye look afterword (but this is probably while the drug is still in them (this took me a while to distinguish--knowing the "glassy eye"), sometimes red bloodshot eyes

Not that you want to go searching--we are supposed to move beyond that, but if your children go off with him-you could look for cans in his vehicle--my ah wasn't/isn't a neat freak so he would throw his cans in the bed of his truck--I knew if it was a crushed can it most likely had been used to smoke crack (the pop opener would be broken off and there would be little puncture marks in the can--of course you would have to straighten them out to see those) {see I was so sick too!!!!} The only reason I would say to check that out would be if your kids are going to go off with him!!!!! Really what can you do about it if that is what he is doing, except try to keep your kids as safe as possible.

I wish you luck and peace!

Dawn

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One sure sign my ex is using is his mouth is moving...not talking...just moving...my son too, although he would move his lips back and forth....constant movement. Others have said this is a sign with the addicts they are familar with, always moving their mouths. At times both would talk non stop on and on about nothing that really makes sense. I agree with the meaness, they both were mean...flash tempers. My son would steal anything for more drugs. Although they did not experience this symtom many do, their face breaks out, in sores...more than a pimple. Weight loss. Although in time my ex could eat while using. And over the phone I can always tell if my ex is using because he mumbles. How I wish I didn't know all this. Good Luck Luna, Don't forget to take care of U

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Yep, the mouth moving thing was always the sign I looked out for.  Also constant checking the windows, peeping through the curtains, pacing the house.  And, of course, the drained bank account. My husband was never mean on crack - he was much easier to get along with, in fact. He wasn't really THERE, but he was nice. Protect yourself financially, I'd say that would be the main one. Also, his crack friends are not likely to be nice people, protect yourself from them. Even if HE is not bad enough to rob you blind, they will.  How old are the kids? Do they go to his place?  If he just sees them at your house, it should not be a problem, but if they are little I would maybe not let them go to his place.

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Oh yeah - inability to eat. He would try to choke down something so I would not get suspicious, but he could not eat more than a few bites.

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(((Lunamoth)))

I was so glad to see this post.  My AH is also a crack addict.  Back a few years ago I did alot of research on crack cocaine because I had a friend who was addicted to this drug.  I thought I knew alot about crack.  It turns out that I didn't know as much as I thought I did.  It was and still is usually after the fact that I go "ohhhhhhhh, he was using crack and that's why he was acting that way."  I have noticed that when my husband uses he had horrible mood swings.  I never knew what was going to set him off.  Afterwards he would be lethargic.  My husband admits that he has used crack in the past but says he no longer uses and becomes irrate if I accuse him of using.  I know that without rehab, crack is a very hard addiction to get past.  I have heard that crack addicts eat alot of sweets.  I'm not sure if anyone else has heard this but I know that my husband has been eating alot of sweets lately and he usually doesn't eat sweets.

Thanks for the post Lunamoth

 

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Woops, I made a mistake on my earlier post...The sores I spoke about are common in meth addicts...sometimes I get crack and crank mixed up...my ex and son used both...they started out on crack and switched to crank as money ran short...sorry...I just wanted to clarify this.   crack is cocaine and crank is meth.....sometimes I think my mind just doesn't want to keep this straight...they are both terrible!

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My husband went crazy for the sweets after quitting, not so much when using.  At the rehab centre, there is candy everywhere, they really crave it.

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(((lunamoth)))))

My AH was also a crack addict. (he is in recovery now)

For me, I knew he was getting ready to use by the way he acted, he was very critical of me, complained about everything and everyone, would try to start arguments with me and other such things. He never used at home....this one was one my boundaries.....I could not stop him from drinking and using but I sure didn't have to have him at home during or immedietly after use either, so he wasn't allowed home till he was "sober". Financially it wasn't hard to know when he had used.....missing money from bank, credit cards had either cash advances or big ticket purchases on them. And emotionally he was really low afterwards, sometimes they call this "cocaine blues". They feel bad about where they were, what they were doing, who they were with, the money that is gone, etc. Some crack/coke users will even be suicidal after using, especially bingers.

I found a website that may be able to answer some questions for you. I hope this helps.

http://www.cocainedrugaddiction.com/warning-signs.asp

Please know that even though the addiction to crack is very strong, it can be overcome if he is willing.

But, as always, keep the focus on you. Follow your heart and watch them red flags.


Andi



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((((((((((luna)))))))))))

 Difinetely the mouth moving it like the jaw is moving back and forth, chewing gum all the time, money missing, after the money is gone valuables come up missing, lying, stealing, moody, and after awhile binges that can last for days...

I pray for you that this is not so, it was the most hellish thing I have ever gone thru in my entire life....and I wouldn't wish is on a soul on this planet...

Keep you eyes open, watch more closely the finances, sleeping habbits....

 Love ya,

Andrea 



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