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How to trust again


My AH has been sober since September 3/06. We are both going to therapy, alanon, AA, and church. Things are falling into place but I have a hard time trusting his word. When he was drinking he would break promises, do things that he said he would never do but did anway. I want to trust him on an issue that he said he never did but I am having difficulties doing that. I go back and remenber the slogans, and I am trying real hard to let go and let god but I cannot get this issue out of my head. I am going crazy thinking about this and I know I need to turn my direction onto something more healthier so that it does not get the best of me but how can I achieve this? Trust is so important to me. Thanks

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hello Alberta rose , key word to me in your post was   * while * he was drinking. That was then this is now , sounds like your both doing the right things  AA and Al-Anon .  I was told to not miss the good days by worrying abot what  ( could ) happen tomorrow.


Sobriety is difficult I know but for me it was learning to trust myself and the God of my understanding . what my husb agenda was , was his problem not mine. so I look after me  go to meetings read the litetature enjoy the day  and regardless of what he does I know I will be okay.


I am assuming you are talking about fidelity , if he says he didn't believe him .  don't go looking for trouble = trust is earned and his actions will tell u what u need to know.


And again promises made when drinking are fruitless , they simply cannot deliever. but he is sober so relax and enjoy!!!!!



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Hi there albertarose,
I can understand what you are saying. My AH has been sober about a month now. He had been sober for a year when he had several slips. I know how difficult it is to trust. What I have been doing is taking it a day at a time. It is difficult at times to not go back into the past. When my thoughts turn to "is he telling me the truth" I ask myself..what could I do if he isn't?? Powerless over his honesty.
I know it is going to take time to fully trust his word again. All I can do is take it one day at a time...take care of me by going to meetings, reading literature, making sure I eat well and get enough rest.
My thoughts and prayers are with you....hang in there and know your HP is with you.

your friend in recovery,
rosie

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Albertarose,


I know just where you are coming from, and I have been struggling with a similar issue.  When these thoughts pop up in my head, I have to remind myself that even if something did happen, I cannot change it.  Then I have to ask myself if it would change my feelings for him.  The answer is always no, it wouldn't. In the end, I remind myself what I realized a long time ago--that my husband was no longer himself, he had been taken over by alcohol.  His values were being run by his illness, and forgiving his behaviors while drinking is the best thing I can do for myself right now.  I am not saying that I shouldn't know the truth--I have a right to know--just that I have to try to let this process work.  When we are ready, I hope to have some marital counseling, where all of this can be worked out with a trained professional, because I know that attempting to work on in without help will only have negative results. ( I am a throw in everything but the kitchen sink fighter)


Hope that helps


 



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Albertarose, it has been my experience that regaining trust in the A is a long, slow process. I allowed trust to build up only to see my A binge again. He has been sober several months...never drinks between three-day binges...but I am still suspicious of every move he makes. I don't know if we ever really do put it all aside and completely trust again. Hang onto your program. I wish you every good thing.

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((Albertarose)),


This is how I take the trust issue - Please take what you like & leave the rest - This is how I get through living with a recovery alcoholic/addict . . .


For me, it was not so much as learning to trust my A as much as it was learning to trust my HP again - Everyone finds out what we need to know when we need to know it - if my A is not keeping his promises, I truly believe that my HP will reveal that to me at the time I need to know it.


I know that it is dangerous to get caught up in the "What if's", but for me, sometimes I had to look at the "what if's" so that I could name the fear to be able to work through it - My worse fear was that my AH would relapse, I would be alone, & financially broke.  Well - That's where I was 3 1/2 yrs ago, when we seperated & he went into rehab - My HP got me through that & if it happens again - He will somehow help me through it again.


So, I take it one day at a time - I have a Plan B - even thought we are back together - I have a seperate bank account with a little money in it if I ever have to leave, I have a couple of friends that I can call at any time if I need a place to say, I have an emergency credit card - this Plan didn't come together immediately - I just started working on it - A safety net, a Plan B if sobriety doesn't work in our lives.


So, do I have that blind trust? - no, but I don't search the house for drugs/alcohol or anything else anymore - I just try to trust in my HP & that I will know what I need to know when I need to know it and when all else fails, when the peace won't come - say the Serenity Prayer a lot, post on MIP & call my sponsor!!


Hope this helps - Give yourself time - recovery is a process for you just as it is for your A.


Just my e, s, & h,


Rita


 



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Thank you all for your posts on this topic. I feel a bit better knowing that I can come here for support when there is no meeting in my town on a particular night or I am unable to reach my sponsor. Since the drinking has stopped and we are in therapy and AA , Alanon things are better. I guess my mind still wonders with trusting him as  I felt I never could before. He has made some changes to the better and I can see he is working his program and I need people like you, to keep me on track so that I can keep working mine.

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Hi Albertarose

Whenever I find myself starting to let those perceived "past issues" start running in my head I have to stop and remind myself that there is not one darn thing I can do to change the past. The past is so best left where it is. I know this is not an easy thing to do, to quiet the mind when it starts wandering into those dark places but by just becoming aware that it is MY choice to do it or not to do it, I have found a lot of relief. I just "change the channel" the best I can. Get out some literature and read. Call a program friend or just get out and go for a walk.

As to the trust issue. I trusted my ex-wife completely. I never doubted her loyalty to me or to our marriage. Sadly, I learned that it is not safe to ever put complete trust in another human being. We are raised to think when we get married we will be with someone we can trust with ultimate blind trust, or at least I was. But, for me at least, that has changed. What I mean by this is simply, that during my marriage I would have these feelings pop up, messages from inside that might be throwing up a warning flag at me, but I would choose to ignore them. Stuff them down and deny I had ever even seen or felt them. I am learning to listen to those inner voices now. They may not always be right, but they are worthy of a good listen at least!

The only Blind trust I possess anymore, if there is any such thing, is that trust I have in my HP whom I call God.

People are imperfect beings. We all make mistakes.

All that said, I am still an extremely trusting person and I trust people until they give me a reason not too. People who have done untrustworthy things to me in the past, that I still choose to associate with get a clean slate to start over with every time, just as I hope I get with them. I trust them til they prove untrustworthy again.

For me its a choice. If I am still going to associate with someone as a spouse, friend..whatever, I am going to take them at their word, while being ever mindful of watching their actions too. The rest is up to me. Take what I like or leave it!

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For us, maybe the worst tests of my trust came AFTER he sobered up - he just substituted infidelity for drinking, for a while.

The way I dealt with it was to realize that I could survive whatever happened. I stopped focusing on what he did or did not do when he was not with me, and started to put my focus on how he treated me when we were together. I have no power over what he does, when he is not with me. However, I can insist on being treated well. I have let him know, and he believes me, that if I find out about any further infidelity, I will leave him. I assume that he is faithful now, but I don't really KNOW - how can I? I don't go looking for evidence, don't read his mail, don't search his pockets. I also don't plan on turning a blind eye to evidence that I DO see, which is how I dealt with this in the drinking years. If I find that he is still cheating, or ever does in the future, my heart will not be broken. My whole heart is no longer in his hands - it can't be, he is an alcoholic. All that he has of me is that which I can afford to lose, I will no longer allow him to carry all my happiness. I care for him immensely, but I also know how fragile he is - I can't allow him to be in charge of my feelings.

It wasn't easy to get to this place, and I sometimes slip - I obsess over him the way I used to. Then I need to remind myself that he is sick, and that I have freely chosen to blend my life with this sick person. An alcoholic is not completely trustworthy - I have to accept that, because it is reality. Whether I like it or not is not the point. I have no power over his trustworthiness. All I have power over is what I will or will not accept.

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lin0606 wrote:


For us, maybe the worst tests of my trust came AFTER he sobered up - he just substituted infidelity for drinking, for a while.

The way I dealt with it was to realize that I could survive whatever happened. I stopped focusing on what he did or did not do when he was not with me, and started to put my focus on how he treated me when we were together. I have no power over what he does, when he is not with me. However, I can insist on being treated well. I have let him know, and he believes me, that if I find out about any further infidelity, I will leave him. I assume that he is faithful now, but I don't really KNOW - how can I? I don't go looking for evidence, don't read his mail, don't search his pockets. I also don't plan on turning a blind eye to evidence that I DO see, which is how I dealt with this in the drinking years. If I find that he is still cheating, or ever does in the future, my heart will not be broken. My whole heart is no longer in his hands - it can't be, he is an alcoholic. All that he has of me is that which I can afford to lose, I will no longer allow him to carry all my happiness. I care for him immensely, but I also know how fragile he is - I can't allow him to be in charge of my feelings.

It wasn't easy to get to this place, and I sometimes slip - I obsess over him the way I used to. Then I need to remind myself that he is sick, and that I have freely chosen to blend my life with this sick person. An alcoholic is not completely trustworthy - I have to accept that, because it is reality. Whether I like it or not is not the point. I have no power over his trustworthiness. All I have power over is what I will or will not accept.



Alcoholics lie, that's just what they do.  Unfortunately, those lies can sometimes cost us our lives.  I'm talking about AIDS or some other STD.  If you suspect your SO is cheating on you, it is imperative that you have them at the very least wear a condom or better yet,get tested for AIDS.  Your very life depends on it. 

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