Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

MIP meeting room

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

i Lu I will need to check with Tanin as to why this new "Verify" code was installed. All we have to do is click on the "veriify me" button" and in a few minutes we see check to indicate' approved "and are then able to click on "enter " to access the chat room.

I will let everyone know when i hear

-- Edited by hotrod on Tuesday 9th of January 2018 09:48:12 AM

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

Betty - I tried to test it and have 'added security' on my systems. I got a warning that the 'web-site was trying to mine crypto-currency. I could do the research to understand what this means, but I had my security block the site from doing so instead.

I too go no-where. It's been a while since I've tried to sign on and it used to just ask for a name and one would hit enter and voila!!! So - I don't know if it's the captcha addition that's causing the problem or if there is more going on based on the error message.

This intends to just add a bit more for Tanin to trouble-shoot!

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Thanks IAH Tanin still has not responded however i did get this information off the site

When you click the "Verify Me" box, the Proof of Work Captcha safely runs a small piece of JavaScript code within your Browser's sandbox. This code solves a mathematical puzzle that is quite processor intensive.

Whenever your Browser finds a solution to this puzzle, it sends it over to our servers where it is verified. Once your Browser has submitted enough valid solutions, our servers will allow you to submit the form.

This essentially works like Google's reCaptcha (you know, the one where you have to proof you're human by selecting all street signs from a bunch of images). This captcha however lets your Browser do all the work.

Sounds harmles as if it is checking to make sure we are not robots

More will be uncovered when we hear from Tanin

-- Edited by hotrod on Tuesday 9th of January 2018 06:18:16 PM

-- Edited by Iamhere on Sunday 31st of January 2021 01:21:57 PM

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

Thanks Betty - I did see that too....but it never completed it's task and sat there for hours. I left it to see just in case. Looking forward to hearing from Tanin! I honestly can't say when I last joined successfully. My brain is fogged from the flu, the holidays and life!!

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

Vthank you Betty and iah for addressing this issue,
I haven't tried yet to sign on again,I'm going through same as iah,,it has let me in successfully sometimes,so I thought issue would go away ,it did not still going on,,,yes ty Betty for contacting tanin ,positive thoughts and prayers going out .....

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

And voila,I'm now officially in,
I let the bar showing in my meeting box download complete,verified popped up,done......hugs Lu

tiredtonite · Veteran Member

Thanks for bringing this to attention. My experience is that when checking off the box in VERIFY, the loading is very slow. I chose to look for more information by clicking on "what is this," My virus program flagged that action as dangerous and blocked/stopped my navigation to that page.

My concern is about getting a virus in my computer. I love our meetings and our group but computers can be expensive to fix or replace. I'm opping to enjoy the rest of this site for now until we have more answers.

Thanks to everyone who is trying to resolve this issue. TT

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

I too will not allow it to load 'as designed' as I don't want viruses and/or malware or even spying on my computer. I got the same warnings TT and allowed it to try and complete with my protection in place. It would not.

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

The downloading process is very slow,
I'm not going any farther with this issue either,I'll wait until it can be resolved and continue enjoying the rest of this site as well ,
I do miss my meetings ,,we have great meetings here......thanks to all working on this ......hugs lu

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Good Evening All

Here is Tanin's response

I have checked this new situation and it is both complicated and simple. The basic description is that previously when we got to the chat room login page we would then do two steps:

1. Choose a nickname

2. Click on Blue Connect button

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Now, we have three steps to do:

1. Choose a nickname

2. Click on Verify Me button--wait until the verify process is completed (15-55 seconds)

3. Click on Blue Connect button

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After doing step 3, everything should be what we normally saw before.

The coinhive verification process is a JavaScript object called a crypto miner. This object uses some CPU cycles of the computer logging in to generate some value for the Mibbit site. It is directly related to crypto currency.

The proposition by Mibbit is: Come use our chat widget for free (no money). But we will shave off a little bit of computer power in order to defray our costs.

Many other sites are experimenting with the coinhive process. It appears to be safe for us users.

Tanin

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

Thank you Betty and tanin ,I apriciate your time with this,
Maybe my computer is slow,I dunno.
Still taking 4 to 6 mins to download even then may may not let me in...ugh
Don't mean to be complaining here,just a bit aggravating..........thank you ,,,,hugs lu

Tanin · Veteran Member

The Verify process will run slow on some computers, especially older or underpowered ones. The Verify process may also be slow on smartphones.

Is it possible for you, lu, to log onto another computer? At least once, for comparison.

Tanin

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

Tanin - my system security won't allow it to run because of the consumption of CPU Power. I could 'turn off' my security but will not do so. I suspect I am not alone in this decision. I did a quick google search, and other sites are bailing on Mibbit because of this - are there other options for MIP?

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

I haven't tried another device,I shall try ,
I'm working off of a Apple iPad ,with strongest service ,live in town alo,I get great service here.
Thank you tanin for responding ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lu

Tanin · Veteran Member

Iamhere wrote:
Tanin - my system security won't allow it to run because of the consumption of CPU Power. I could 'turn off' my security but will not do so. I suspect I am not alone in this decision. I did a quick google search, and other sites are bailing on Mibbit because of this - are there other options for MIP?

I won't suggest you you turn off y our system security software, IAH. That's your call.

Yes, the coinhive miner issue is controversial. And some sites that have it are getting blowback from regular users like us. For that reason I feel that it's possible that Mibbit, our chat facilitator, may decide the coinhive verification is not worth the trouble and cancel the experiment. I kinda think that will happen.

In the meantime I will look for a solution to the system security conflict problem you describe. I also think others may have the same issue.

I will report back tonight.

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

Thank you Tanin - you rock!!! I agree that what I found online suggests others have similar concerns. It would be lovely if they opted for a different solution. I worked in technology before I retired so am ultra-cautious always.

I appreciate your service!

Tanin · Veteran Member

lookingup wrote:
I haven't tried another device,I shall try ,
I'm working off of a Apple iPad ,with strongest service ,live in town alo,I get great service here.
Thank you tanin for responding ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lu

OK, let us know how long the verification takes on the other device. As information, using a smartphone to log into the chat room this morning, it took me about 41 seconds.

Annoying, really...

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

I've found that my browser needed updated ,,I have the 9.2 iOS ,it's now saying that it's slow downloading browser needs updating,
I can't update to a 10 ,my device won't update anymore.
It still downloads just at a very slow speed very slow,
Did try on another device,it did dl in a zip...would use that device just its very small,can't read texts,
For now I'm good with my iPad ,lots bigger I can read better.........thank you ,,,,,lu

Tanin · Veteran Member

Iamhere wrote:
Thank you Tanin - you rock!!! I agree that what I found online suggests others have similar concerns. It would be lovely if they opted for a different solution. I worked in technology before I retired so am ultra-cautious always.

I appreciate your service!

Looking around the various conversations on the net, there probably is no surefire solution for the antivirus or ad blocker software identifying the crypto miner as suspicious or malicious code. I see that Coinhive may be rewriting its miner so that it will pass scrutiny by Norton. But there is no timetable for that.

For right now, we are stuck with what Mibbit has installed on its site. I will keep looking for a workaround.

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Thanks Tanin for all the hard work and for following up so quickly

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

I second what Betty says - Thanks Tanin for the research, hard work and effort as well as the quick responses. Happy Friday!

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

Thank you Tanin,for suck quick responses,and all the work you've put into this and everything else,you do rock....hugs lu

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Good News The "verify me" requirement has been removed. Thanks Tanin

tiredtonite · Veteran Member

Thanks so much for the update hotrod and thanks to tanin for his help with this. Glad we are able to keep it simple. TT

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

Awesome news - thanks Tanin and Betty for your service and a fast resolution!!

lookingup · ~*Service Worker*~

Thanks tanin ,Betty for making this possible,
Awesome work.......lu

Wifeandmom · Newbie

I'm new and interested in virtual meetings but never experienced them before. Sorry if I offend.

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Hello and welcome. we have Step work Board here I have included the link below

stepwork.activeboard.com/forum.spark

Here is a link to the chat room where meetings are held

www.12stepforums.net/chatroom2.html

Wifeandmom · Newbie

May I ask questions?

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Absolutely

Beckon2 · Member

I can't get in either? We need these meetings. You are not alone. Silgirl

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

I was just now able to sign into the chat/meeting room. I do know that users with Macs have not been able to connect. I am not certain how well chat works with mobile devices. I'm using a good old fashion laptop running windows.

DavidG · ~*Service Worker*~

IAm... I have a Mac... and made it in okay.

I am a computer 100% dummy, so I could not help past that point... biggrin ...

Iamhere · ~*Service Worker*~

Thanks David - last time a member had an issue, upon research, the software wasn't compatible with Mac! Yay for extended abilities! Glad to hear/know that it does work with a Mac!

Beckon2 · Member

Hi all. I can't get into the meeting room.

Help!!Silgirl.

Beckon2 · Member

Yes.I can't get into meeting room. Or should I say.I can get in. Yet no one is ever there. Please help Silgirl

gracesarah3787 · Newbie

using this page since meetings have been canceled, face to face

SunnyFrogs · Senior Member

Are there still online meetings?

DavidG · ~*Service Worker*~

aww Overcome is trying to crank up the meetings again Sunny... pretty sure she could do with some support. aww

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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene

Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene