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Al ANON HELP FOR SEVERE ANXIETY


Hi Everyone,  I am reaching out to anyone who suffers with severe anxiety.  In the past 1.5 years I have had EXTREME anxiety but it is based on triggered memories from my alcoholic father (he passed away Feb of this year but it is was NOT a resolved situation= I have worked on forgiveness and letting go) and also I am separated from my husband and attempting to raise my 14 year old son (my ex does help).  I am in therapy but i know that the STEPS can help with Anxiety and Fear and I need help.  I wake up in constant anxiety/fear and I continue to pray, meditate, do yoga etc.  I have not felt "serenity" in a long time and I KNOW it is possible with Al anon.  Does anyone have any experience strength and hope?  Thank you so much in advance.   



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Hi Charlotte, honestly this level of fear may call for a therapist or someone trained in anxiety disorders. You are going through a lot right now and having someone to talk to and help you work through unresolved issues will be helpful, I'm sure. For situational anxiety or when my mind starts spinning, i do usually call my sponsor but even she will tell me it's time for me to get back to therapy when my level of anxiety is truly interfering with my serenity and daily peace.

Prayer, yoga, and meditation are wonderful, as are working the steps. Hang in there. I, and many others here, understand where you are. Just remember, you are not alone! HUGS!

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Hi Charlotte, I also would sometimes wake up in the middle of the night with anxiety. I'm glad to hear you are using both a therapist and Al-Anon. That was the combination that helped me.

Just a couple of thoughts are, (1) it did take time, as the moments of anxiety became less and less, and (2) my therapist used the EMDR technique which was helpful for me.

With Al-Anon, I knew I was not alone ... working the steps with a sponsor helped, and we can also work steps on this site. With technology like this board, we really never have to be alone with those feelings. Keep coming back -- we understand!

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Hugs, ((((Charlotte)))). For me, the constant fear / worry / anxiety that accompanied me pretty much all the time during the last year or two while living with an A became much better after some months in the program, as I was trying to implement the slogans, steps etc. in my life... It happened gradually, and it happened as I was working on me, trying to understand and know me, my motives, my needs, beginning to let myself be me. My constant anxiety at least in part came from things that I can't control, but in my heart I was convinced I could/should. And before that, some years ago, I had extreme social anxiety for some years, when I would experience panic and dissociation even in a gathering of close family members, or anyone. It was debilitating, and if I could live this period again I would get professional help... So I'm glad you do, and you have Alanon, too :)

I'm so sorry you are going through this... Sending you positive thoughts and prayers! Keep coming back, there is hope and help available.

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The waking up in #fear# may be a memory from your childhood.  Many children grow up in fear and abandonment. We cannot possibly process it at the time. 

I hope you know from all these posts you are not alone. It is possible to recover.  Having patience when you are in a lot of pain is very difficult. 

 

Maresie 



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 Hi Charlotte,

                   I found that Alanon just gave me some security... and over time I learned to trust...

                   learning to identify with people like ourselves is very healing.

                   I diagnosed myself with C-PTSD [I do not live in North America where the technology and know-how is advanced.]

                   So basically I had no self-esteem- a deep sense of dread- and a sea of shame.

 

                   I always tried with step 11- which is about prayer and meditation. Mostly I was so exhausted that I fell asleep.

                   By way of first aid I found that altering my breathing and sorting out my stress I was able to search inwards, a lot better...

 

nothing really seemed to happen for a long while- but I gradually began to get better...

...I also sought outside professional help and this was essential too!

it does work if we work at it... the hardest stuff for me was letting go...!

Great topic- alway s nice to see a new member!!!

smile DavidG.



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Hugs, alanon can help address those issues. I also had to reach out to others on a professional level. It wasn't until I did a combination of alanom and EMDR that I even knew I had anxiety. It helped me identify something I wasn't aware of it also helped me deal with it to. I find that anxiety is about my issues with control and the unknown. I want the outcome before I make the decision. That wad my private therapy. Alanon helped me look at more of the underlying issues going on on a safe space and learning that there are no guarantees to life. Accepting the situations I couldn't change and learning where I had power and where I was powerless. Keep coming back and working your own program is not easy well at least for me lol I tend to complicate things it is a simple way of living life if I am willing to let go. Hugs s ;)

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It took YEARS before i understood that I had anxiety. It's funny now but that insight was really helpful to me oncei had it. While i have had loads of therapy, it was the love of the group that made a wholesale difference for me. It did not happen overnight but each meeting is one more bit in lessening the anxiety and upping the love. I hope you keep coming back Newnoz

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Hi Free Time,  can you help me to find out WHERE on this site to work the steps?  I really need to and I have reached out for a sponsor on the phone bridge several times and each time there person just did NOT have the time to do it.  I am asking Higher Power to find one.  Thanks so much xx



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Hi Charlotte here is the link to the Step Board You will need to reregister to post
stepwork.activeboard.com/forum.spark

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 Hi Charlotte: I suffer from severe anxiety from severe child abuse...I have actually bio/physical damage where my brain synapses don't "fire" right and it disturbes the GABA , hence the anxiety/panic attacks..I also have PTSD from the abuse..What is helping me is of course program and the love and support that it gives AND meditation...Training me to stay in my body, stay in the present..for decades I only lived in my messed up head...the mind chatter and the sub conscious scary thoughts would give me the panic, anxiety...however if I can force me to stay present, grounded, in the moment, in my body and MINDFUL of the right now, all the time, it really alleviates the physical discomfort...If I am focused on the right now, being mindful, my mind cannot torment me with fears of the unknown, fears of disaster, fears of not being able to protect/take care of me....I got coloring books and crayons and sometimes I just lie in my bed and color a picture, focusing on my picture and what colors I want to use....writing/journalling my thoughts and feelings...I wrote letters to my abusers (now dead and in hell where they belong) and burned the letters because I don't know the zip code for hell, so had to burn letters, but just getting it OUT..."calling them out"  (parents were my violators) helped....NOT keeping secrets anymore...sharing my self and my pain and my memories in safe places helps....good diet:  eliminating refined sugars (tough because I am absolutely hooked on Reeses butter cups and butter fingers--so I binge 1x per week)  but the other 6 days, eat real natural,  drink lots of fresh water, eliminate other "white" food products.......exercising, working out each day to burn off stress and create feel good hormones....talking when I need to share a bad memory.....NOT hiding in shame about my fears but reaching out and sharing....getting proper rest.........eliminating stress and people who cause me stress, I distance myself from or I leave the relationship if they cause me stress........keeping my life simple.......deep breathing exercises and yoga stretches b4 and after exercise and whatever I can do to take good care of me.............program has helped me a lot, I hope you give it a chance.....being believed and supported, knowing you are not alone really helps and by all means if people are insensitive to your condition, not supportive, I would distance myself while I am trying to recover...for me the damage is physical as well as in my head so I will be "compromised" when it comes to coping for the rest of my life, but I do everything I can to keep me from having to do more medds then I absolutely have to...and yea, I am , for life, on medication to keep me stable....been on it for 40 plus years and have not increased my dosage due to a good self care protocol.........I hope my post helped you



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Thank you for posting this, it helps to know that I am not alone. My anxiety is so severe right now. Praying, walking, trying to take care of me is not helping. I wish you the best.

 



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Hi!
If you are interested look up Dr Harry Barry on youtube.

He helped me stop my panic attacks in a couple of days.

They were lasting for about 2 days at a time. 

Let me know if you'd like some links, he really was a life saver for me. 



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nyan23 wrote:

Hi!
If you are interested look up Dr Harry Barry on youtube.

He helped me stop my panic attacks in a couple of days.

They were lasting for about 2 days at a time. 

Let me know if you'd like some links, he really was a life saver for me. 


 Thank you!



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hi charlotte sending you a pm and hoping that's ok .. but one thing that comes to mind with prayer and meditation .. in meetings .. the sharing is like a prayer and the listening to others is like the meditation .. when we come together for one hour we also do this as a group .. a beautiful thing really .. yes there is hope ..

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Hi Charlotte,

I am soooooooooooo glad someone brought this up and you did. I am not good at putting thoughts and feelings down on paper but do want to share my own ESH. I struggled with agoraphobia and extreme social phobia. It was called panic disorder back in the day I was finally and gratefully diagnosed with it. I just thought I was totally crazy and no one knew, nor did I want them to know..........but the constant torment of living that way...........no words.......I mean seriously, I was out in a rural area and IF there was a car coming down the dirt road when needing to take the trash out...........I would wait till it disappeared. I also could not go to any appointments or the store for food by myself. I would have rather taken a beating than have to go with family out to a restaurant! And...........I just had my 59th bday this past week! That is a lot of years to live that way. I medicated with alcohol off and on up to and between 87 then finally, in 1991 no more alcohol relapses for almost 18 years!


I'm sharing this to let you know that these programs work!!!!!!!! I got into and was able to get serious and work the steps in AA in 1987 via a treatment program I checked myself into at the protest of my screaming AH abusive, controlling ex. I went in drinking because if you think about it.......people were my fear. I could not imagine being in some place with people. And....not be able to run. There was so much shame, so deep down and no where to put it or know what to do with it....it was one of the best things I ever did! The docs did put me on meds for some time and I dug into AA as though my life depended on it and it did. Many relapses via the fears until 91. I even started some AA groups, one of which is still going.........that's how serious the programs and work are to me.
The meds did not take away all the fear.............much work on the steps, meetings, baby steps in all things and having good friends and even back in a church that was so loving too and a strong relationship with God set me free of that strong of fears/anxiety over time.

Here I am newly back in Al-anon. I used to go to Alanon too, due to my abusive 23 year EX relationship. It's a transition many alcoholics make from what my sponsor had told me, and it worked well.......all, my thoughts were messed up and I didn't deserve anything or even him? I could not see how abusive this man was nor my part in it. I worked as a counselor for a womens shelter! I saw all this during my intakes........the questions I had to ask these women were me.......

I was free of the fears many, many years. I later drove trucks, had my own biz, just enjoying life and all. Has it been easy? No, life has a lot of pain, loss, etc. I lost both little brothers within 10 mos of each other to drugs and suicide in 97/98. But, I was solid in my life, my HP, my support and all. IN fact there have been 7 losses of family in my life in the past 10 years. And today, that is ok. Some of the deaths were related to being abused as a child. For me, those were the times to seek out more support and I did. From my ESH, I know when I need help with certain areas and deaths can trigger things that are hard......painful/traumatic......yet in it all...... freedom was just down the road. This has been my own experience dealing with some of the losses and what areas of intense issues may be tied into these people, especially those from childhood.......

What is not ok: I haven't been in any 12 step support since moving away from my home several years ago. This "dis-ease" snuck back into my life after a huge move from rural all my life to much too close to a city and all here still seems odd to me.......but it is where my husband of almost 10 years lives.....and I couldn't keep driving my truck due to health issues. That stopped my way of escape to go back down to my home and work (I love to work hard) with my support and friends. My not being in any support groups and due to all the A's in my life has let back in all the old fears. I didn't even recognize this was happening.

This past month I looked up and was realized I was unable to go to the store again and leave my home on my good days (health) It's been many years since the anxiety and fears have been this way........I kept cancelling appointments with doc and dentist last month. I was off the wall crazy and scared to the point I felt i was going to lose my mind early last week! I have struggled to go places since living here, I am not a city driver and the overload of info of cars, people etc to battle driving into a city became too much this past couple weeks or so. Even going to the little rural store for feed.....After an intense period of feeling I was totally going to lose my mind and doing all I could to hide from one of the A's in my life.........God sent me back into Alanon here. I am sooooooooooooooooooooo grateful!!!!

I know through my HP, I choose to call God, this is where I found freedom from the insanity and crippling fears before. I can feel the fear easing up and also know it will be a short time this time around before I am getting out to the stores and such again. Perhaps, this week. Good grief my shelves and fridge are pretty empty! I am on my 4th and about ready for my 5th step. I am bouncing around a bit due to writing all down in my 4th again and seeing my place in all of this and yet........I can't wait for that freedom from all the junk to happen again!! The fellowship, knowing others are struggling with the same issues with their A's and finding a new way of life and one with peace in it is ALL worth it.

This program works. For me, getting all this on paper, seeing my own participation in the As, being as honest as I possibly can and looking forward to helping others again in time is oh so worth it. It's great to meet you! I'm glad you are here too!





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I personally think any mental illnesses,such as anxiety,depression,PTSD,etc are best left to the professionals.

However,Alanon can be a good coping tool,along with many other tools such as medication,meditation,etc.but not as a substitute for professional help.

And I say this as a PTSD sufferer myself.

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