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CEH


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I am new Al-Anon I am embarrassed to say "anger" has brought me here.


My story is what I would consider a complicated story.  I will start my story with what has happened to bring me to Al-Anon in the present time and then fill in the back story after I have fully explained how my life has turned upside down. 

 

 

On August 19, 2016 I answered the phone at work to hear my husband on the other line slurring his words and almost incoherent.  I realized, as I always have, that he was intoxicated.  This wasnt something that usually sent shivers down my spine, but considering that it was 6:03 pm and he was at his office I knew I had to go get him. I heard the phone fall and some yelling and then he got back on the phone.  He had informed me that he had fallen and was laughing.  I told him that I was going to come get him.  He told me he would be fine.  I told him not to drive and I would be there as fast as I could.  I begged him not to drive, as I was running out of my classroom, purse and keys in hand, and then the phone went dead.  I was 15 minutes away and I was speeding to get to him.  As I went up a hill I passed him and so I continued up the hill so I wouldnt get hit and turned around.  By the time I had turned around I came upon his wrecked truck and several people trying to help him.  He didnt have his seat belt on and was unconscious.  I could go into detail about what was going through my head and the multiple injuries I incurred trying to get to him and hold him up, but then I wouldnt have enough time to explain that a week earlier I had to call the same ambulance that arrived to help him on that Friday as I did last Saturday. 

 

For years I have asked my husband to stop drinking because I wouldnt be able to stop if he didnt.  He did for a few weeks here and there and then always continued to drink.  Saturday August 13, 2016 my husband came to bed stumbling acting like a pinball in a pinball machine trying to make it to the end (bed).  I decided not to start a fight and deal with him in the morning.  I continued to watch TV and within a few minutes I could feel a jerking sensation coming from his side of the bed.  It continued and so I turned on the lights to look at him and found that he had foam all over his mouth.  The jerking must have been him trying to throw-up and he was throwing-up foam or so I though. Later I found out that it could have been a seizure. I couldnt get him awake and couldnt get him to answer me.  Our four daughters came in and our 15 year old daughter called 911.  We live in a very small community where I am a teacher and he is an attorney and so everyone that showed up to help is someone that we both knew well.  We went to the hospital as he was belligerent and told the people trying to help him to fuck off and called me a bitch and a cunt on numerous occasions. I found out that his blood alcohol level was 395 which at 400 could be death.  It was one of the most humiliating things that I had been through in my life.  I didnt say it was the most humiliating thing, just one of them as my life has been full of moments like these, not because of him as this was only something that was recent. 

 

You would think that he would have considered this a rock-bottom moment.  Well you would be wrong.  On Thursday August 18, 2016 he was to meet our four daughters and myself at the middle school to get two of our daughters class schedules and meet their teachers.  After that we would head to the middle school and get our other two daughters schedules and meet their teachers.  Finally we would all go to the elementary where I teach so I could meet all my new students and their parents.  He shows up at the middle school looking like a homeless man and obviously drunk.  The girls thought he looked that bad because he was detoxing and not feeling good because he hadnt been drinking.  I told him if he didnt feel good just to go home.  One of my daughters dropped me off to get my Suburban at our house and I realized he hadnt gotten home yet.  I saw him pass and I followed him.  To make a very long story short I found him at the bar.  I went in the bar not acting mad, but saying that he had to hurry because he was going to miss his daughter conducting her first band performance.  I got him to come back to school with me by talking to him like I would a child in the nicest manner I could.  I stuck him behind my desk in front of my computer so I could meet with parents and no one would know he was drunk.  He kept getting up and started to leave.  One of our younger girls followed him and wouldnt let him leave until I was done.  We then went and watched our older two girls in the band.  I made sure to sit away from everyone so they at least couldnt smell him.  He had never showed up at our girls stuff drunk and I knew I was losing the battle.  He agreed to go to rehab, but he had to get a lot of things done before he went. I had thought that things had gotten so much worst because I told him he had to stop drinking which just made him get drunk before he came home so I wouldnt know.  I told him at this point I didnt care if he drink at home until he went to  rehab.  That didnt matter because he still drank which is why he wreaked on August 18, 2016.  Rock-bottom?  You would think so. 

 

After his wreak, going to jail, everyone knowing what an alcoholic he was still didnt stop him from drinking.  He didnt drink the whole weekend after his wreak, so I let him take my suburban to work that Monday August 22, 2016 after he dropped me off on the first day of school.  As soon as the bell rang I got a phone call from his secretary telling me that he was drunk and driving.  She begged him not to drive and told him he could kill himself or someone else.  His response was that he didnt care.  I called him and told him it was time for him to come get me from school and he did.  I yelled, screamed, called his best friend that was supposedly helping him through this process and realized that there wasnt anything more I could do. You might be asking yourself why I keep bring up dates.  Well, because the first day of school August 22, 2016 was my 39th birthday.  He didnt even care about that.  This is the day that I told him he had to go to a 30 day rehab at the least or we were done.  I would take the girls and he would have no one.  I told him that he wrecked his truck and that his daughter and I wouldnt be inconvenienced any longer for what he had done.   He agreed to let his secretary drive him to work and I would pick him up from work.  After he passed out my girls and I spent the rest of my birthday at his office and found all his stash and threw away over 15 empty bottles of scotch.  When we got back home it was 8:00 pm. He came out of his room and asked us what we were doing home.  He had woken up and thought that it was the morning as he passed out around 4:00 pm. 

Today is September 11, 2016 and he has been sober since August 23, 2016.  He is planning to go to rehab as he still needs to go for the 30 days to learn how to cope with stress, the temptation of alcohol and his depression.  He drank every day for years but it was never to this extent until his father was put in a dementia care facility and the fact that his affair that he had 10 years ago with another attorney came out and her husband told everyone in the community including me.  Yes, I found out that 10 years ago he had a 6 month affair with a woman that I know and was now friends with because I have had her kids in my class for 5 years. They are autistic and I am a special education teacher.  She and I were not friends when the affair was going on.  My husband was the one who ended it because he didnt want to be without his children if I found out, that is what she told me.  His account on how it ended was that he told her it was wrong and he felt guilty and that is why he stopped it.  Who do you think I believed the alcoholic, adulating liar, or the adulteress that told me the total truth about everything when everything came out?  I never even got a chance to work through that because when I found that out I told him if he didnt quit drinking that I would leave him for good.  He quit cold-turkey.  Who do you think helped him through his detox, which consisted of nightmares, cold sweats, and emotional problems?  Yep, me.  I didnt even have a chance to comprehend that he had lied to me for 10 years.  We went back to counseling and tried to work through everything.  Which really you can only truly repair your relationship in counseling when you are being completely truthful and our counselor thought he had quit drinking. 

 

The kicker is that one of the reasons I married him is because he wasnt a drinker.  He only drank on very rare occasions.  I grew up with a father that was an alcoholic and didnt want to have to deal with the same issues my mother did.  However, I was the alcoholic.  I was only 19 when I met him and I was still partying.  We married when I was 20 and I continued to drink a lot because I just turned 21, or so I told myself.  I believe that I have always suffered from depression and I would self-medicate with alcohol.   I drank more when I married him because I am a very sexual person and he never wanted to have sex.  He was 9 years older than me and so I thought that might be it.  He would tell me it was because I would drink and that was a turn off.  I quit drinking and nothing changed.  We had four daughters within 5 years and I had postpartum depression with all of them.  It wasnt the kind where I didnt want my girls, it was that I wanted them and no one else can touch them.  I cried a lot and he resented me for it.  I didnt realize how much resentment he had until we went to counseling and how he talked about how I would quit being a parent when he walked in the door.  Now that he has depression I wonder if he has even thought once about all that I did when I was depressed and how much I accomplished during those dark times for not only myself and the girls, but for him as well. 

 

After our girls were older and I went to work my marriage was still horrible.  He wasnt drinking, but he wasnt a partner and neither was I.  We were in a place where we both hated each other and didnt want to be around each other. I felt like I had to beg him for sex and that made me feel bad about myself.  We never had sex and he wasnt willing to do anything about it.  I started going out with friends and I ended up cheating on him several times.  The first time was an online affair which wasnt physical, but it was worst because it was such an emotional connection.  He found out the day before I was going to go meet the person that I had the online affair with because he saw it on our computer.  That is the day that my husband began to drink.  He had not stopped drinking since that day. 

 

So, I feel that it is my fault that he started drinking and I kept doing things that made him continue to drink.  He had an affair that I caught him on the phone and he promised it was only them talking for a little while, but later on through the years I found out it was physical.  However, the whole time we went through counseling and our marriage was getting stronger and stronger he continued to tell me that he was in the same bad marriage I was in and he never cheated.  Now, I know that he cheated on me way before I ever cheated on him and while I was going to two different colleges and taking care of four girls.  I thought he was an asshole, liar, cheater, and overall piece of shit.  I went to counseling thinking that "I" ruined our marriage and I wanted to make it work. 

I am not bitter about going through the counseling because I felt that we had wasted a lot of time being angry at each other and hating each other and we finally really loved each other.   The reason I stayed with him after finding out that he cheated on me 9 1/2 years ago wasnt because I had cheated on him, but because we both were two different people then, just like I was a different person when I did all those things that I did.  We loved each other and were treating each other as though we loved each other.  It was time to start over. 

 

You would think that I would have it all figured out and be happy now that I have a husband that is sober and moving in the right direction.  I am happy that he is sober.  I am unhappy that I dont get to feel anything, be upset about anything, and walk on eggshells because what I say might make him drink.  I have dealt with everything he has put us through and I have picked up the pieces day in and day out.  He acts as though what he has done is only an embarrassment to him.  The girls and I are embarrassed as well.  He is going to go to a rehab facility where he can get help for his mental illness and he has total support from the community, his daughters, and me.  He has a lot of the support because of me.  I do not ever bad mouth him to anyone and only work towards helping him and therefore everyone else in my life is working towards helping him. I check on him daily to make sure he is having a good day.  If he isnt I make it my job to talk him through it.  I guess I am good at it because I know how depression feels.

So, why am I so angry?  I am angry because he has taken so much of my life and wasted it.  He took every opportunity to treat me like shit and make me feel like shit because he knew I would take it because I didnt know what he had done.   He was physically and emotionally abusive and I felt like I deserved it so I just took it.  I drank all the time so I didnt see how I could tell him to stop because that is how I dealt with my pain.  His father who he worked with him in his office was losing his memory and was finally put in a facility for dementia patients. So, I thought he just needed to get through that.  He has a very stressful job.  I was giving him every excuse he was giving himself.  I know I said he has taken so much of my life and wasted it and I should be saying that I have taken so much of my life and wasted it. 

 

The truth is that I had a rough life growing up.  I had an alcoholic father and a bipolar mother that wasnt medicated.  My parents do not want to have anything to do with me and choose that every day.  I could have used all the horrible things that happened to me in my life to be a loser and not step up to the plate every day for myself and my family, but I didnt.  I went to school and became a teacher.  I didnt stop there because I wanted more for me and for my family.  I went to school to get my masters and principal certification.  This summer when all of this was going on I could have just quit, but this was the last semester I could finish and so even though I was depressed and sad I had to continue to go full time to school.  I have completed all my classes and passed my principal certification test and now I am studying for my comps test which is the last test to get my masters.  There is no way I could have ever accomplished all of the schooling I have without my husbands help with my girls. I am resentful because when I was going through depression I didnt have any help or understanding from anyone.  No one in my family believed in it and he resented me for being the way I was being.   

 

I know that I cannot compare my life and my husbands life because it isnt fair, even though it is hard not to. I believe that he was unable to deal with things that came up because he had a perfect life and never had to deal with anything bad so he never developed the coping skills that I developed as a child.  I drank, but I am also able to live without alcohol and it never got in the way of my life or did it?  Here I am now and trying to figure out what to do next.  I guess I am feeling sorry for myself because I didnt like the man he was when we got married and the fact that we didnt have a sex life was a huge part of it.  I truly started to think he was gay because I was extremely attractive.  I now know why, the same reason why I didnt want to have sex with him for the last year unless I was drunk with him.  It isnt a turn on to have a drunk fumbling all over you.  I also was continuously wondering why he didnt want to have sex with me sober. 

 

This is where I am.  I am over being angry because I am here for him through his depression and sobriety even though he was never there for me and mine.  I drank daily and quit drinking when he did, expect one night.  I read what he posts on mysponser.com and how he is there for so many people that he doesnt even know.  He encourages them and confides in them.  He checks in with them daily and I have turned into a mother figure and not a wife or lover anymore.  I have four daughters I dont need another child.  I will always do what I can for him because I do love him and I want him to be well for my girls.  I just still feel like he is so selfish.  He was selfish and horrible before I cheated on him, after I cheated on him, and now he isnt emotionally or physically abusive anymore. But is that all I get for the rest of my life?  I get to be married to my best friend, which I dont trust, that I have to babysit, and that isnt available to me physically or emotionally.  Do I just thank God that he is alive and sober?  I am starting to wonder was our marriage getting stronger because of the counseling, or was it because he started drinking which enhanced our sex life. One of the things we learned in counseling is that I connect a huge part of someone showing me love with sex and I havent had sex in over a month. He knows this and now that he is healed of all his physical damages and not drinking he still isnt having sex with me.  Any time I act like I want to he gets up and goes on about his day.

 

Why doesnt he want to have sex with me?  I have so many reasons in my head which are not at all productive.  But I cant ask him because it will just cause a fight.  Also, I dont want him to have sex with me because I tell him to.  I know no ones life is perfect, but crap when is it unpainful?    



-- Edited by CEH on Monday 12th of September 2016 07:45:13 AM

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Hello CEH , welcome to Miracles in Progress. Thank you for sharing with such clarity and honesty.. I can readily identify with the anger and appreciate your concerns.

Living with the disease of alcoholism many of us develop negative coping tools, in order to deal with the insanity. I too have experienced my husband going into convulsions and accidents and do understand the pain and concerns.

The most important thing to remember is that alcoholism is a chronic, progressive, fatal disease over which we are powerless. We didn't cause this disease cannot cure it and cannot control it.

AA is the recovery program for people who are affected by the disease by drinking and Al-Anon is the recovery program for family members who have lived with and coped with the disease.

Al-Anon has face-to-face meetings in most communities and the hotline number is in the white pages. It is here that I learned to keep the focus on myself, develop new and constructive tools to live by, look deep within to see the negative attitudes that I had developed that hurt me and was given the tools to shed them and develop new constructive tools to live by.

It is suggested you make no major life changes to your first six months in program, because it takes of time for us to be able to look within and see what we truly want and need.

Please check out the Al-Anon meetings in your community and keep coming back here there is hope and you're worth it


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Hi Crystal and welcome. You are in the right place. Alanon promises serenity. We have all been effected by the disease of alcohol and I personlly would not be telling you this because I never believed in a higher power but all I've done is join, attend meetings, here and f2f read what I can about the illness and recover. That is a miracle that I could never have done for myself...Higher Power. We all recover differently but we all are going to the same place...serenity. I wish you peace and keep coming back.

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Betty,

Thank you for your insight.  I understand that I shouldn't make any major decisions within the first 6 months of the program.  I will keep that in mind daily.  However, I feel like I haven't made any major decisions on major situations at any time.  Maybe that is how he got here.  I am just hurt and sad and as his feelings are being comforted daily by myself and everyone else, my are stifled and set to the side once again.  I feel as though if I keep doing this in six months this will be what our relationship is and the norm and then once again it is my fault that I let it get this way.  Another thing is that he keeps saying he is going to go to rehab and the next week comes and there is another reason why he doesn't go.  I am waiting for him to go so I can get on with my life.  I feel as though I am at a stand still and need to be around to watch him all the time.  I have to start studying and my plan was to start when he left so I could concentrate and not worry about where he was and what he was doing.  Like right now I am at school and I should be working and getting my lesson plans done, but I am on here trying to find some solace. I am tired of being tired, I am sick of being hurt, I am exhausted of not being anyone's priority and everyone mine, I am mostly frustrated that I am scared of being alone when I already am alone.  I have no one really.  I have amazing friends, but I don't want to continuously dump on them because they will eventually avoid me.  I don't have any family and I will not burden my girls with this.  I just fill like if I am so alone wouldn't it be more productive if I was so it would be clear that I am.  This way I don't trick myself into thinking I am not alone because their is someone laying next to me in bed?  



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Yes, serenity would be a welcome change.  Thank you, I will continue to come back.  



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Crystal You will receive the understanding and support you so need and deserve in alanon meetings I assure you you will find the love, understanding and support that will refresh your spirit and provide you with the ability to realize your own talents and abilities.

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Welcome Crystal to MIP - glad you found us and glad that you shared. Living with or loving one with the disease is life-changing. As Betty suggests, the disease is progressive and there is truly no cure. There is only recovery - and the alcoholic has to hit a bottom that they define....not one we see and think 'this is it'...

Those of us who live with or love one with the disease often develop coping mechanisms that are less than healthy. Most likely, the disease has affected you and your children - rarely is anyone spared. Each situation is different so we do our best to not offer advice but rather share ESH - Experience, Strength & Hope. I found others who truly understood what I had lived with in Al-Anon and they were able to listen without judgement. They were able to offer simple solutions to help me change me. I too had tons of anger and that just kept me very stuck in my life and in survival mode.

Al-Anon gave me back my sanity, serenity and joy. We work the same steps that AA has, but applied towards ourselves. We stop focusing on what they are/are not doing and instead focus on helping ourselves.

I hope you will find meetings for yourself and seek recovery for you. I would also seek out AlaTeen for your children, as they are affected to. Keep coming back - there is help and hope in Al-Anon. You are not alone.

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Welcome, CEH. A lot if your story ran true for me. I met my husband when I was 20 (I'm 37 now) and we were both big drinkers. I started slowing down and he only ramped up. In the last year and a half he had 2 seizures (which is what it sounds like your husband had with the twitching and foam coming from his mouth) and full on DTS with a month long hospitalization when we went to visit his parents at Christmas 2 years ago. We're just starting a family (I'm 10 weeks pregnant) and he just went on a bender where he quit his job, blew off the next job he had lined up and is now unemployed. A few days ago he said he was suicidal, so I called a mobile assessment team that's offered in my city. They said he needed to do detox given his history and he waffled. A few das later he told me he'd do rehab and then backed out once we got a consult. He said today the only reason he said that was because he knew it was what I wanted to hear. I've also fallen into a mothering role where I work while he does whatever all day (on and off for the last 8 years). I've been keeping his debit card because he spent $100 last week on booze and I need to make sure we can pay rent. It's exhausting. I've done f2f meetings since January and I highly suggest them. You'll find that you aren't alone and you aren't crazy. For me it's helpful to see people who've been in the program for years because they seem to have so much serenity and that's what I really want. I find when I start to think everything's going well and I don't need the program anymore something like this past week happens. For me that hour and a half was a place I could be myself free from judgment with people who've lived through similar experiences. Keep coming back.

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I just completed my first online Al-Anon meeting and I am already clamer.  I will continue and I now think I have to find a f2f meeting.  



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SDB, 

Thank you for replying to my post.  I hate that you have gone through all you have and you are continuing to have to deal with this.  I am always here for you if you would like to talk.  I don't know that I have wisdom, but I do know how you are feeling.  I was lucky to have not had to deal with the financial issues as my husband always paid our bills and made sure everything was taken care of, but I think of all the money that could have been spent somewhere else and how much more ahead we would be.  I know I can't concentrate on that now just from that one and first meeting I just did online.  But I do understand waking up everyday and going to work when your husband is laying in bed trying to get over a hangover and only working half the day when he has a whole family to help support.  He was always there for the girls but gradually became hateful and rude when he was home because he wanted them to shut up so he could drink and watch TV.  He shut their laughter down so much it began to not exist unless he wasn't home.  My girls want to hang out at our house but stopped because they didn't want their friends to see their father drunk.  So many time I had to hide him in our room and beg him not to go out of our room.  I would be so nice to him and tell him to just let me get him a drink so they wouldn't see him stubble around.  It was exhausting.  I can't imagine having to deal with that while I was pregnant.  You are amazing and will get through this. 



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((Crystal))) I am glad that you attended the on- line meeting. Do keep coming back.

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Aloha Crystal and welcome to the board which as you have read holds a great deal of experience, strength and hope.  We know what you are going thru and where it has taken you because we also have been there and done that.  Take this new experience just one day at a time and keep checking in with us and your home membership.  Al-Anon saved my life and sanity for which I am totally grateful.  I was born and raised in the disease which is progressive; always getting worse never better until we arrest it in recovery.   ((((hugs)))) smile



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(((Crystal))) - good on you for getting to the online meeting! May you continue to work on healing one day at a time!

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Everyone here responded with such amazingly supportive things. it seems most of what I would say has already been said.

One thing that really caught my eye when I read your story is that you feel guilt or some responsibility for him starting to drink. I wondered how much you take responsibility for in your own heart. I really want to stress that everything he does including when he started drinking was within his realm of responsibility and choice. Even if you were drinking when you met, his choice was his and not within your control.

It took me a long time to be able to recognize what I could control with in my relationship with my addict. I hope that you keep coming back, and keep learning to take care of yourself. It is a great program. I am glad you found it.



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Echo Rinn. Being an alcoholic with poor or no recovery is what "makes" them drink

At 8 years sober now just about, If I drank over a person or relationship....I KNOW that would be so weak, silly, stupid, self sabotaging. I can LEAVE a relationship. I will die if I drink like I used to. Do not apply reason to a broken alcoholic's excuses. Also...your thinking needs to clear up in alanon too. Over a decade with an active drunk/user is a SERIOUS mindscrew!

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Thank you all for the support that you're giving me. I needed it in the worst way. I am not so angry today as I was yesterday and understanding more daily and hourly. This group is really what I needed and I thank each and everyone of you for your posts.

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(((Hugs))) - Crystal.....one day at a time works so very, very well with this disease! Keep coming back!

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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging.  Pause before assuming.  Pause before accusing.  Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret.  ~~~~  Lori Deschene

 

 



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Welcome. I learnt in Al-anon that alcoholics drink because they are alcoholics. We don't make them! My AH used to blame me! It is simply not true.

Glad the online Al-anon meeting has given you some relief.

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Grateful to put the heavy weight down.

 

 

 



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Hi Crystal, hope things are OK for you.

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Thank you!

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 The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. ~Mahatma Gandhi

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