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I used to get really angry when my husband would drink.. and we got into a lot of fights.
Looking back at it, I can't help it's been all my fault and if only I didn't say anything, we would still be together. His drinking lately has been under control and he decided to break up with me because of our differences
It's crazy making, because now I feel like the abuser. Been depressed, hating myself.. and even got as low as want to work out the relationship and tell him I could work on my issues. He says that he does not trust me anymore and if we were together we would destroy each other with arguments. there is zero acknowledgement that he did something wrong as well.
we've been together for 5 years and had the most wonderful relationship, and all the memories have been slowly draining me of life.
Called in sick to work today because of a depressive episode, couldn't sleep last night because he went to drop off food at some girl's place from work during that day and has been successfully moving on. Even though he is not seeing anyone, I think it's a matter of time, I don't like this girl as she's been hitting on him at the last company party where he took me. she's this cheerful blonde, social type, the exact opposite of the kind of person I am. I don't even know if any of this concern is grounded so I don't talk to him about it, especially as he broke up with me, but bubbling it inside has been horrible. I try not to be the jealous type with no self-worth.
we still live together, go eat out.. and have really passionate sex a few times a week. i don't believe he's just using me, as we used to really love each other and that connection i feel though really diminished, is still there. He is also taking me on a trip next weekend as a friend where I was hesitant to go but wanted to spend some good times with him in hopes of reconciliation. he says he loves me but doesn't think we can work out our issues as we always end up fighting over his late night drinking with friends when I feel under appreciated. These happen a few times a week.
I truly don't know whom to ask for help but lately I haven't been able to focus.. and not even meetings have helping. Counselor is too expensive for the type of insurance I have.
I know I am taking a pretty heavy dose of abuse daily, I don't think a healthy person would be able to have this kind of relationship with me.. especially after marriage and 5 years
any kind of advice would be much appreciate friends, i really need to try get it somehow together
-- Edited by little_phoenix on Wednesday 17th of February 2016 11:03:28 PM
-- Edited by little_phoenix on Wednesday 17th of February 2016 11:05:24 PM
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"A broken heart. An aching soul. The endless piercing pain. But stop a while. Go within. Why is love to blame? Love is selfless. Love is kind. And Like the dawn of day, it breaks the night To shine its light Upon the higher way."
I doubt very much if this was all your fault. We've all done things in our lives that we don't like to see ourselves doing, well I know I have anyway, and I assume that my behaviour was not out of the ordinary given the circumstances.
I found that my anger at the abuse that I was receiving turned inwards, where it morphed into depression. I don't really do anger - or didn't use to anyway. But looking back I see that I became angry at myself because I felt that I was letting myself down by tolerating stuff that I found intolerable. On the other side of the coin my husband and I had had a really good relationship for twenty five years and I didn't understand how he could have changed so much in his thinking about us until I started reading on these boards and started to see the self same phrases cropping up in other peoples lives as well and I came to think that it wasn't about me, at all. The rage I felt as that started to dawn on me - I had swallowed a tornado!!! But it was healthy rage and I took to the hillsides near where I live and shouted it to the wind. I wasn't turning it inward anymore and I wasn't taking it out on my husband either, because that just led to my feeling guilty. I found my own way to let it go.
Have I got this right - your partner broke up with you but continues to live in your home and you both have great sex with each other a couple of times a week. He is also enjoying the attention of a workmate? There is a reason why that sounds a bit familiar to me and that is because my husband did a similar thing, minus the sex, and I agree, it was crazy making. I came to view it as abuse - his at taking advantage of our relationship and my own (self) abuse for putting up with it and for sending mixed messages. Eventually I started to picture myself as a leading lady in a movie, something with a script a little like my life: girl loves boy, boy lives with girl, lots of loving, and then boy gets distracted by someone / something else and starts being rude to girl whilst being very charming to this new girl on the block. What would I feel about what my leading lady did next? If she said 'oh, ok, I'm waiting, I love you, I'll be here whenever you want me', what would I think of her, what would I want her to do? If she said 'take a hike, I deserve better than this' what would my reaction to that one be? Playing those scenarios out in my mind helped me to figure out who I wanted to be. It didn't have to be either one of those scenarios, but for me I found that I was shouting 'yay, you go girl' to the second option and that helped me to honour my own beliefs and boundaries. Does any of this make sense?!
I certainly found that living and loving an alcoholic created a different me to the one that I had imagined I was, or rather I tried to be someone I wasn't at heart and started to tear me apart.
I can see how your situation is difficult to live with, so maybe it is worth looking at what choices you have, what you can do for you?
(((Hugs))) from my world too Little Phoenix. So very sorry for the affects this disease has had on you, your AH and your relationship. In my world and in my recovery, I had to be told over and over and over again that I would never be his priority so long as he was active with his disease. The substance and the chaos/drama it brings was his true first love and me, others, kids, job, etc. all are second place and beyond.
While I spent time working in circles to try and put him, the kids, the home, etc. first, there was nobody, including me caring for me. I truly had to make a conscious effort to put me first. Starting with getting out of bed in the morning and over and over and over again during the day. I can also say that my ability to focus on me and my own issues would not have been possible without a sponsor who showed me true compassion and love when I was unable to love myself.
Be gentle with you and take care of you, just for today. Know that we're all here for you. I agree with milkwood above me - living with and loving an alcoholic created a different me and that version of me made mistakes and was not a very happy person. Today, I want different for me and that's what I focus on....one day at a time.
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Practice the PAUSE...Pause before judging. Pause before assuming. Pause before accusing. Pause whenever you are about to react harshly and you will avoid doing and saying things you will later regret. ~~~~ Lori Deschene
I can relate. For me, fear of change, loss, being alone, started eating me up and had me questioning when my boundaries got trampled. He trampled your boundaries. It is not unreasonable to want your husband home instead of late night carousing all the time. Don't diminish your wants and needs in a relationship. He sounds unwilling to change so it then becomes a choice of what you can live with and detach from or not. That STILL does NOT make it "your fault." I empathise with your fears of moving on or losing this committed relationship. Sounds like he is not that emotionally connected and just does what makes him happy in the moment. Alcohol may be retarding his emotional maturity. Try not to feel all the feelings for both of you. I am betting he is just as messed up as you think you are. Don't embrace victimhood too much. It will leave you feeling helpless and depressed. He did act like a crappy husband. You don't need to argue over it, but don't diminish yourself eithet.
Phoenix the replies you received here are all experienced and right on. I listened to them and realized they were what I also needed to here when I first found the program and then did. Working the program steps, traditions, slogans and using the literature and sponsor are very very helpful and supportive. I hope you are attending Al-Anon Family Groups and have a home group to meld with. This program when worked is gold and saves lives, mind, emotions and spirits.... In support. ((((hugs))))
thanks everyone for these responses :) it helped a lot to read this
everything right now is just crazy-making, but I don't understand how someone can date, marry... love someone for five years and then suddenly treat that person is the most disrespectful way. It made me the emptiest person in the world as I am not sure what to believe anymore.
it was just two months ago that he called me his wife and said I made him a better person, now he made me this relationship he hides and lies about. I don't know about this girl - he always sleeps at home and doesn't seem to go out, but he did bring her some food over the other day, why else would he have done that if he didn't like her. He told me a few of his friends asked, so he went to drop off to them some samples and mentioned her name. Another idea was that it was to hurt my feelings, as he knows I don't like this girl. She disrespected me at a company party when we were there together because she was hitting on him right in front of me.
I decided to completely ignore his comments about dropping off the food to her, as every second I spend on such a woman is a waste of my time. I don't hit on other guys if they are at a party with their wife.
the problem is that he is the kind of alcoholic.. well, he does well in life. He works as a chef, which makes the late nights easy and excuses for them as well. He used to prioritize me and make me feel important but the last few months we argued a lot and at some point he got fed up with me - like really fed up. He said I am disgusting when i am like that. I've been beating myself over this a lot. I know I am not getting the support and love I need, but yearn for what it used to be.. the "want" is making me miserable. the depression every day is just too much to deal with - i have body pains, been sleeping poorly, and stopped talking to people around me as they are all sick of this situation anyways and just want me to move on.
I cant even tell if at this point I am in love, or I hate him.. and just want to be in love. Could not possibly love someone who is capable of hurting me this much.
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"A broken heart. An aching soul. The endless piercing pain. But stop a while. Go within. Why is love to blame? Love is selfless. Love is kind. And Like the dawn of day, it breaks the night To shine its light Upon the higher way."
You are only human and he is looking for someone to blame all his bad choices on. Because his brain is in disorder, he is acting accordingly
and his addiction will continue and he will act out and you are left in a pile of emotions and anxiety. As their co dependent, even though we
don't drink, we feel all the effects of their drinking, panic, anxiety, anger, depression, you can go down the list. We become sick sometimes
sicker then them.
Then when you feel guilty for arguing with him, you become his enabler.
I encourage you to be at a face to face Alanon meeting as much as possible. Isn't it better for you to be at a meeting then you watching him
and then you having arguments that you will be blamed for?
Alanon will teach you tools to grow stronger, to take care of yourself to feel better. It will bring you out of the dark and into the light, but only
if you work it and you want it enough. I say the choice is obvious. Keep coming back to this board. I was you and I made it thru...
Hugs
Bettina