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New relationship with an Alcoholic


Hey there,

I have been dating my boyfriend for a month now.  He is a recovering alcoholic.  He relocated to my area 3 months ago (just about the time he became sober again)  He is attending his meetings faithfully.  I guess I am terrified because he keeps stating he does not want to hurt me.  He is afraid that when he gets a job and his license back that he will start to push me away because that is his past mo when things start to go well for him.  I have and will continue to be supportive of his meeting time.  I know this is a time in his life where it needs to be all about him.  He has discussed our relationship with his sponsor and has stated that when he falls apart or off of the wagon is when he is alone.  I tend to be a giver, I guess I just want to know how to support him fully without having my heart shattered in the process.  I grew up with an alcoholic step father and spent 24 years with an alcoholic(21 yrs of marriage).  I swore I would never be with another alcoholic, but it seems God has other plans for me.  I would appreciate any and all help.  My head is saying he is worth the risk, but my heart is screaming run girl - you have been here before..........Sorry if I am rambling.



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Tammy


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Hi Tammy

You say you are a "giver". That is a definition of an alanoner. We are all "givers". I would suggest you get to AlAnon meetings and listen and join in and learn how to be a "giver" without going overboard. That is what we do. Being a giver is great, but we take it to a whole new level and then we have our heart's broken because we don't understand why everyone else doesn't appreciate how giving we are. I am making broad generalizations here, but the idea is that we take it too far without knowing it. Get to meetings and learn the experience of others.

Just like your ABF needs his AA meetings (and you are supportive and "giving" in having him do that), you need to get to meetings and be supportive to your own learning about this disease. Learn to take care of yourself first. Give to yourself. Not in a selfish way, but in a healthy way. Right now it is all about him and not you.

"but it seems God has other plans for me"----- don't blame your HP (Higher Power) for this. But maybe it is a call from your HP to get to AlAnon and learn, learn, learn.

Take care of yourself.

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The difference between Al-Anoners and regular people is not that regular people never meet or fall in love with alcoholics.  The difference is that Al-Anoners stay despite red flags.  We get sucked into "giving," and feel that sense of yearning and familiarity - "This time it will work!  I can make it work!"

One problem I had was that I mistook intensity for compatability.   A relationship with an A is almost always going to be intense.  They're not wholly available to us, so that gives it an urgency and a yearning.  When they're drinking, their main interest is the bottle.  In early recovery, their main interest has to be recovery.  That is why A's in recovery are cautioned not to get involved with someone romantically for a year.  The fact that your guy has broken that caution already makes me worried.  The drama that inevitably comes with new relationships can be unsteadying to an alcoholic in early recovery, no matter how giving the partner is.  (It shouldn't be up to the partner to be that giving anyway.)  And they do not have enough to give a partner.  They are still learning how to operate in the real world.  They will be very emotional, uncertain, moody, blunt, and unavailable.  Not good relationship material.  And how they will turn out, who knows?  There is also the sad but real danger that very many people - maybe a majority - relapse in early recovery, and do not stay in recovery.

But this is very early days.  The first six months or so of a relationship are typically the heady exciting time, when you seem perfect for each other.  However, many relationships do end naturally in those first six months, because the people find they're just not right for each other, and better off as friends.  In the second six months, it's really time to see whether the compatability holds.

My experience with us Al-Anoners is that, as the saying is, our 'pickers' are broken.  In that initial period, when the red flags appear, we don't say, "Wait a minute, this is a path into pain.  I like some aspects of this person a lot, but I see that he's not in a space to be a good partner, and there are some big deal-breakers.  I'm going to move on and be ready when the actually right person comes along."  Instead we say, "Feel familiar!  Feels intense!  It must be love - sign me up!"  Heaven knows that's what I did.  I was so overjoyed when a likely-looking guy wanted to get involved with me that I wouldn't let go for love nor money.  I was in it with both feet.  I would have saved myself so much grief if I had looked at the track record of the guy and at where he was in his life right now.  And if I had not said, "How can I be what he wants?" but "Is there enough in here for me?"

I like what Maryjane said.  I think maybe this is not God saying "Be with the man who has attracted your attention, despite the red flags."  He may be saying, "I am opening a door for you to learn and grow so much, and here are a fellowship of people to support you on your path."  There's a reason this is called Miracles in Progress!  I hope you'll keep coming back.



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Tammy - welcome to MIP. Glad you found us and glad that you shared. My best suggestion is to look for local Al-Anon meetings to get a better feel for how you can support him and learn more about the disease. Understanding as much as possible about the disease and it's affects on the drinker and those who love/support them has been life-changing for me and my life.

I have been able to find my way with an AH and two A Sons, in spite of the insanity of the disease. I can say this has been possible only through working the Al-Anon program to the best of my ability and allowing God to lead me to where I need to be/go.

Keep coming back and know that you are not alone! We are all just a post away!

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Very true Mattie...I find even with a BF who has been sober for 9 years.. the same emotional, unavailable, uncertainty all applies. And we have to figure out how not to go overboard. I'm learning that a little bit each day...and it hasn't been easy. But going to meetings has been a lifesaver.


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Hi Maryjane,

 

I thank you for your input.  I am sorry if I sounded like I was blaming God - that was never my intention.  I also understand that this time is and needs to be all about him.  He has discussed his recovery and what he needs to do in detail.  He has been nothing but open about it.  I am just trying to find a way to be supportive of him while maintaining a healthy balance.  It seems that I am really not that great at conveying what I am thinking/feeling/asking in me message.    I will certainly take your advice and look for a local Alanon meeting. 

 

Tammy



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Tammy


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Hi Mattie,

 

Thank you also for your input.  I am not sure if this is normal, but right now our relationship is not intense.  We are very relaxed and calm around each other.   We have soo far managed to keep it drama free.  I really like what you said  "Is there enough in here for me?"  You can bet I will be going slowly and trying to determine this.  I pray constantly for guidance and the courage to follow his will.  I will definitely keep coming back and I will also be looking for a local Alanon meeting.

 

Tammy



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You wrote, "I also understand that this time is and needs to be all about him."  But - I don't think it should be.  A new relationship, like any relationship, should be equally about both people.  If he's in a point in his life where he needs to concentrate on him and only him, that's fair, but that's not being ready to be in a relationship.  Being in early recovery does not change rapidly - the state he's in will probably be the state he's in for 1-2 years, and for many people, for the rest of their lives.  If it's all about him now, it will stay being all about him.  Alcoholics are already well-practiced at having it be all about them.  And we codies are already well-practiced at having it be all about them.  I'm reminded of the saying, "They had so much in common - they both wanted him to be happy."  So the question would be: what about your background and life experience has made it so that you're ready to settle for a situation in which it's all about him?  Just something to think about, as I imagine we on these boards have all been there.



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Mattie wrote:

You wrote, "I also understand that this time is and needs to be all about him."  But - I don't think it should be.  A new relationship, like any relationship, should be equally about both people.  If he's in a point in his life where he needs to concentrate on him and only him, that's fair, but that's not being ready to be in a relationship.  Being in early recovery does not change rapidly - the state he's in will probably be the state he's in for 1-2 years, and for many people, for the rest of their lives.  If it's all about him now, it will stay being all about him.  Alcoholics are already well-practiced at having it be all about them.  And we codies are already well-practiced at having it be all about them.  I'm reminded of the saying, "They had so much in common - they both wanted him to be happy."  So the question would be: what about your background and life experience has made it so that you're ready to settle for a situation in which it's all about him?  Just something to think about, as I imagine we on these boards have all been there.


Thank You,  You have definitely given me something to think about.  I have started Christian counseling and have started my search for Al-Anon meeting.  I guess I have spent my whole life being a giver/pleaser.  I have always tried to blend into the background.  I need to do some hard soul searching to make sure that I am no doing myself and him a dis-service by continuing this relationship.



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