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Struggling today


Today I am visiting family and I am struggling with the memories of our life in better times. I say better times but they really were not better. My AH and I are living separately because my life living with him became unmanageable. There were his vices which were first alcohol, then grass and who knows what else. Both A and Grass were used to extremes. For a few months after I left last year he was willing to do everything to save our marriage. Then he became deeply depressed (MDD) and now a year later he is only focused on himself. TBH, I have moved on in a lot of respects. I go to Alanon 3-4 times a week, volunteer and have made new friends.

However, I am sad, today that we had a long marriage and he has no interest in MC or anything except IC for himself. Maybe this is normal for someone with MDD (Major depressive disorder). Lately I have cut off talking with him because he knows how to work me, before I know it I am feeling sorry for him and he has turned the focus to what I have done to him. His irrational behavior, uncontrollable temper and disappearing for days at a time led to my leaving and moving 700 miles away.

So I am visiting family and feeling that there is no hope for us. I would never want to go back to the way we were living when I left. I just wish he had it in him to do the work to save our marriage.  When I get home tomorrow, I will go to a meeting and that will help me tremendously but for today I guess I am sad because it really did not have to end this way. Not talking to him keeps me out of his drama. We share children and grandchildren so it is not always possible but for most to the time there is no need to talk. At some point we will need to finalize all of this but for today, I don't want to think about it.

Would love to hear any ESH on this...struggling...

 



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When i went to my mothers at thanksgiving
I was getting triggered right and left about the
Divorce. Nobody really said anything out of line
It was me, i was really surprised that being with
My family out of state would do that to me.

I was triggered The whole holiday season this
year and last year too. Triggers are not really
controllable.

I was not detached nor did i really want the divorce
Those are two big things i struggle with. Was it
The best thing for me yes, i am still processing
And It takes Time. The pain and hurt take time
Too. Hang in there, i could stand 3 mtgs a week,
I only get 1 sometimes 2.

((((( pjwa)))))


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I'm so sorry.  There is grief with the end of every longterm relationship, no matter how painful it was.  Because none of us got married hoping for an addict, a loss of intimacy, deceit and pain.  We went into it hoping for all the things everyone hopes for.

The more I get older, the more I see that pretty much everything gets a partial set of happiness in this life.  When I was young I thought most people got to have it all.  Great marriages, good jobs, obedient children without any disabilities, good health, a nice place to live, good relationships with relatives, rewarding hobbies, pets, enough money, satisfying things to be involved with.  I thought that was the normal way, and only a few unlucky souls didn't get it all.

What I see now is that the majority of us get some parts of that, but there's always some aspect of life that's not perfect.  People with good jobs don't always have good health or great marriages.  People with great marriages don't always have obedient and healthy children, or sometimes they don't have children at all even though they want them.  Some people have supportive relatives and satisfying hobbies but the right marriage never comes along.  And so on.  We all get dealt a partial set of cards. 

And of course it's easiest to focus on the parts we didn't get.  Those are the parts that need to be remedied or grieved or accepted.  But I used to think I'd gotten a raw deal because I didn't get the whole package.  Now I see that really hardly anybody gets the whole package.  In fact nobody I've heard of.  Sometimes they look like they have from the outside, but when you know more, you find out about the sadnesses and problems and loss.  They're there too.  In the long run, I think it's a matter of how we cope with the half-good, half-disappointing nature of our lives - whether we're thankful for the good, or brooding about the bad.  Not to say that sadness and pain aren't appropriate.  But that it's a big and complicated picture. 

Hope you'll take good care of yourself.



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((PJWA)) This is indeed a difficult road we travel. Grieving the loss of a dream takes time Prayers and positive thoughts on the way.

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Mirandac, I struggle with detaching but in the last few months it has been so painful to have any contact that I dread when I think of any contact. But at the same time I am incredibly sad which is just something that will take time. It took 35-40 years to get it in this dysfunctional place so it will take time to disengage.. Thanks for your ESH

Mattie, It is grief. It feels like a death but he is still here badgering me. I know that for the most days I am in a good place but I think I am finally dealing with the grief and allowing myself to feel it. Last year I still had hope but now I am feeling it and this too shall pass.. I am so fortunate that I do not have to live with him right now for that I am very grateful. On so many levels I know that I can never live with him again but.... I have this vision that I can't get out of my head of that perfect life,lol... But you are so right that no one has the fairy tale life. Everyone has struggles and I do see it now that I am older. Like I said, I am so thankful that I don't have to live with him with his struggles right now... I think I am repeating myself,lol.

Betty, I always appreciate your ESH. Coming from someone that has a lot of recovery speaks volumes to me..

Thanks to all of you for your ESH....

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Hey piwa12726 - so very sorry for your sadness. I can relate to what you are saying and agree that grief is a part of it for me. There is also fear that raises up at times and my best tool is to bring myself back to the moment. 2 of my qualifiers are my sons. It has been beyond devastating to watch them go down their chosen path and not be able to help, redirect, cure, change, etc. When we are distant from each other, I tend to accept my life, my days, my activities, etc. with quite a bit of grace/peace. It is when I talk to them that many past unresolved issues come back to the front of my feelings, and sadness is the result.

I guess in my processing, the sadness hurts badly, but it is better than anger - which is what it used to be. I had an almost burning rage and would wonder how they could do all this/these things 'to me' (at times)....that anger would cause me far more issues than the sadness - which stinks, but is a necessary phase of grieving. I am trying to be 'well enough' to have these exchanges, and not be so sad and it's gotten better if I take my tools with me. When I remember that most of the drama/craziness is the disease speaking, it helps. When I remember that I love them but hate their disease, that helps. And when I remember that I have an escape plan (hang up, walk away, etc.) that helps.

It is OK to be sad, it's part of healing. No matter how long we are in recovery, there will be times that we 'wonder what if'. I've learned that from my 'other program'...

Please know that you are not alone - we're all here for you! (((Hugs)))

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I am here,
Thank you for your esh. I can not imagine the hurt/sadness that you experience/feel with your sons being your qualifier. A close friend is dealing with similar issues with her son and trust me that is much worse IMO. With that being said I value your experience in how to cope with the sadness and grief. Best thing for me now is to limit my contact with him and I am a much happier person.
I read on here somewhere that it takes 1/2 of the time you were in a relationship to get over the loss of the relationship.. I truly hope that this is not true because I don't have that many years left, lol... Thanks again for your ESH...

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Well.....if it does take that long, and my AH is also one of my qualifiers (who I am still married to), I may also not live long enough to 'heal'.....I guess my point with a bad attempt at humor is I don't believe there is a formula for healing. I believe that each life experience we have, good and bad are permanent and our views about them change. We take pain and we consider it bad and we work to feel better. It comes up through out our lives, but there comes a time when it's less painful. And then, there comes a time when it comes up and we see what we learned. And then it changes and we call it a life lesson. I think this happens based on our growth and our growth is related to the path we choose.

If I get up each day, put one foot in front of the other, and try to incorporate this new spiritual existence, my burdens don't feel the same as when I get up, choose to sit and stew and feel sorry for myself. I believe the attitude and actions I choose each day have more impact on how long I grieve and suffer than any increment of time. I know for me, my days are better when I practice as many of the principles of this program as I can vs. try to rely on self-will.

Don't put a time on anything - just do the next right thing and take care of you. Put you first and work the program - you won't be sorry!

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Iamhere, You are right there is no formula for healing. Everyone heals in their own time. Doing the next right thing is the best thing I can do. Living in the moment and not try to solve any problems today. Letting go and let God is something that I have to say over and over so that I keep my hands out of the drama of the AH. When I get back home I have less reminders of my old life, I can go to a meeting and I have so many books that help me when I start a pity party.lol

I can not thank all of you enough for your thoughts and ESH yesterday. One day at a time is all I can do and all I want to do... center myself..

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