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Jumbled mess of feelings


Hi all, it has been sometime since I have posted, but I do read here often for E/S/H. As of late I have such a mixed bag of thoughts and feelings. My AH has now been sober 17 months. He attends meetings, has a sponsor and will on occasion attend an event (not often).

Although there has been growth, I still feel so much anger, disappointment, resentment and sadness towards him and about him that sometimes I wonder if this relationship, this marriage is what I really want for my own self. I thought that as I kept growing in the program, these feelings wouldn't keep coming back so often. Sometimes I attribute them to seeing him be Mr. Wonderful to his AA fellows, his sponsor who everyday when they talk whines about is failing marriage and I over hear my AH laughing as the man puts his wife down or offering advice on marriage (REALLY). Other times I attribute this to the fact that maybe I have not fully let go of the mess, and then I get upset at me because I think am trying so hard to do that, yet messy feelings come up. I get resentful when I see Mr. Wonderful in action, yet he is half time Mr Wonderful at home and with his family, our faith, our community outside of the AA walls. It's incredulous to me that family is generally excluded from the program and that it's not really addressed that if you are Mr. Wonderful with us, you better be in other areas of your life actually all areas of your life as well. God forbid if you attempt a conversation on this reflection, because the push back and the answer of I am doing everything I can sounds fake and manipulative. Quite possibly the entire mess of feelings is the result of general lack of trust and weariness that anything coming out of his mouth is untrue.

It continues to amaze me how it's so very easy for A's to want accolades, constant praise, constant spotlight. I mean some of my anger comes from having to hear about how great he is because his child support is finally paid off, it's a time for everyone to praise him now, but in reality it was a responsibility you chose to ignore, a responsibility that when you didn't keep up your end of the agreement, caused myself, his kids and his dad agnst. Whether he wants to acknowledge the truth of the matter, that as we did our best to pay him up when the walls were falling down, we did it. I would bail him out at the final hour because his lack of paying had effects on my bank account, my home, my tax refunds and more. The constant seeking of praise for holding a job drives me absolutely insane. Again, reality check, you work to have a home to live in, lights on, running water, food in your belly etc. It slays me to hear him tell me how much he is helping around the house, well by gosh by golly, you live in the house too, it's your responsibility to help maintain.

I often reflect on how long does it take someone to get over themselves and the self-seeking, self-centered behavior. I also reflect on my own self and wonder am I being selfish because I can't let go every single minute of every single day, forgive, let bygones be bygones.

I think at times this mixed bag of emotions is coming from a place of fear. In 3 short months he will be off probation. I don't trust him one iota that he will not use again. That makes me sad. I don't trust that once he is "off paper", he won't just slide right back into his addiction. I am afraid of that because as someone wise told me it's because I know the damage he can do.

I am trudging forward, working hard at trying to keep my side of the street clean, and do my thing. I just sometimes wish for a magic wand that could sweep this all away.

Thanks for listening all and many hugs to everyone.



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Linda

Don't worry about tomorrow, tomorrow will have it's own worries

Matthew 6:34



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Hi Linda,

As always, you explain yourself and your feelings well. You seem to know yourself well.

I wish I could tell you if you are being too sensitive and/or unforgiving, or being too harsh. Only you can. Have you been able to go to meetings? You've talked about his meeting life, but not yours.

Since you don't know how long it takes for someone to get over themselves (who does know that?) then you might want to prepare for worst case. If he were never to get over himself, would that be something you can live with? I think that might be a way of letting go of expectations and just figuring out what *you* want to do.

Keep coming back, it was nice to hear from you again!

Kenny

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NO words of advise from me but boy do I understand. Many hugs to you.

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Beth



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Linda, I can certainly relate to all the feelings you mentioned.

My husband of 15 years is a little over 90 days sober. He told me last night when I felt that my feelings weren't being validated on an issue that "it's all about him and his recovery now." Well, I guess he told me. Meanwhile, I'm the one who goes to work all day (he has yet to find a steady job) while he gets to sleep in and go to a couple AA meetings each day. I have to give him a "to do" list and practically beg for things to get done around the house. He tells me I should be patient and "let go" of all my resentments. Easier said than done. We have two school aged teenagers living at home as well. The food bill is sky high. The rent is sky high. I am stressed out. Not sure how much longer I can deal with it.

But it was so refreshing to see a post as soon as I logged on totally relating to how I feel. ((((HUGS))))

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{{Flower}}, am sorry you are feeling so badly. Are you working the program and
attending meetings? Even if you work them here on line it would be a
tremendous help. Detachment with empathy and focusing on yourself and
your recovery is so important for your own well being.



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Thanks Debb, I am working the program and doing my meetings. I just get into ruts and struggle with having empathy for him. It is really more like expected to constantly have empathy and understanding and feel for him and his poor me self, when in reality you are a grown man, you have responsibilities, you espouse your changed self constantly and tell the "fellows" how you are just doing so great but fact check is needed there, you have tremendous help from me, so when you are puffing your chest out and exclaiming your so awesome, maybe get some humility and understand you are not doing it alone and if you were alone, you wouldn't be making it. I just think sometimes the program encourages so much self centerdness and cheerleading on things that are every day real life and in every day real life no one gives you a cookie.

Yankeerose, I chuckle anymore when my AH tries to tell me how I need to work on just letting go of stuff or not having resentments or saddness...,really why does he say that, to me it's because he has to asaugage his guilt so he presses himself on me as he is my sponsor. I used to get rankled up about it, now I just laugh and walk away. So maybe I am doing ok with my program. I know your feelings on the sleeping in, mine works full time by by gosh on Saturday and Sunday don't wake him up he has to get his rest, so he rolls out of bed around 10 and then tells folks Well I am up every day at 430 (faker). My AH tries to tell me I need to give him a list of things to do in our home because that is how he was able to manage in the 3/4 way house, so I did that and guess what, he never followed it. I don't write a list anymore because it is a waste of my time and it just irritates me he does nothing on it, plus be a grown up, open your eyes and get busy. I get a strong sense sometimes that they take advantage of the I'm in recovery and it's all about me and getting better. So this too I have learned to listen to and just not respond. I laugh inside though.

Hi Kenny thanks for the response and advice. I didn't mean to dwell on his meetings in that way, it's just things I have observed quite often lately. Just the sheer selfishness of the program or maybe how people interpret things. I do the program and all, I just hit ruts like this and I get mad a me mostly about it.

 



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Linda

Don't worry about tomorrow, tomorrow will have it's own worries

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I hear ya on the empathy struggle, and how we hit ruts. be gentle with yourself too, he is asking you to be gentle with him, but you need it too! Keep on keepin' on!

kenny

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So very sorry for where you are.....the greatest thing about the program - this too shall pass. The only thing in my life that seems constant sometimes is change.

I don't know if this will help or not but I was a court-appointed AA member for the first year of my recovery. At the end of that year, I was able to honestly assess what had changed and almost all the 'success' I had was because I had been chemical/alcohol free. I chose recovery over return to the life of my past.

And I completely understand the selfish, self-centered behavior he has. Recovery is selfish and successful folks have to put their sobriety first. Everything else is typically dependent upon the daily journey of doing different, being different and staying sober. It's no picnic and while I completely understand your side, if he doesn't get to relish these small successes and feel good about them, it makes the choice to relapse tons easier.

For those of us with chemical dependency/alcohol addiction, the substance replaces something that is missing. Nobody begins their 'disease career' with the goal to become a worthless, unemployable, irresponsible, no good person. That happens as the disease progresses. It's a very vicious mental cycle and so often, it does seem easier to just give in and drink/use. So, small successes are celebrated in recovery, both sides.

The only person who can determine when enough is enough is you. For me, I had to completely surrender to the disease and realize deep down within me that 'they' were not doing what they were doing to or at me. It was a part of the disease, and from personal experience, I know if mine could go back and undo the hurt they've caused, they would in a heartbeat. Mine will never admit this as the disease allows a false arrogance for survival purposes, and the disease continues (to this day) to tell me I am not worthy, I am not worth it, I am not valued or valuable, etc. It is through recovery, the steps, meeting, etc. that I am able to separate real thinking from disease thinking. That took me years to be able to do...

Empathy is difficult for me if I feel forced and it feels 'false'. By surrendering to the disease and accepting those I love exactly as they are, I've been able to forgive. Only by forgiving can I practice 'real empathy' and it does feel natural. If I am not program-centered, different things can trigger me to pre-program thinking, and that's when everything and everyone around me is 'not doing what they should'....

Keep working on you. Be gentle with you. Be kind to you. Do small things just for you. Put yourself first and let HP deal with others in your life. There is no perfect self-care, but in my small world, everything that I do with me in mind gives me a bit more worth in the day.

(((Hugs))) - keep coming back - the answers will come and you'll be centered for the next step of your journey so long as you keep working your program!!!

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