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I recently was in a relationship with a man I love. We had one argument one evening, while both of us were intoxicated. I said some ugly things that were very hurtful, however, my intoxication level was a lot higher as opposed to his. He has been drinking for quite a while now, and so His consumption doesn't even compare to mine. What he drinks; I cannot even keep up with. So, with my emotions flying and my level of intoxication high; I said some hurtful things. I told him to get the hell outta my life and so he did. He left that same night and without warning; he came last Friday and stripped me of the furniture he had brought into my home for me and my son. Just like that. No explanation, no justification, no reason. Nothing! He's gone and I'm hurting so bad. He has a drinking problem, and I knew he was a drinker when I met him. A problem, no, I never suspected that! Now this. I feel bad for my actions, however, I am so torn and hurting significantly because I can't believe the amount of betrayal he's done. I am so saddened by this, and I don't know what to feel. We were together 3 months, and although we moved very quickly; I believed with all my heart I had found the man I was destined to spend my life with. My soul mate!
Any suggestions, comments, ideas, are appreciated! Thank you for letting me have a voice on here.
Hi Crystal welcome to Miracles in Progress, I am sorry that you are feeling so lost and abandoned. Glad that you reached out here and connected.
Not quite sure if you're partner is an alcoholic, but I would like to point out that the disease of alcoholism is cunning, baffling and powerful. We who live with or try to cope with the disease, are negatively affected by the behavior of the alcoholic and need a program of recovery of our own.
Al-Anon is that program. Face-to-face meetings are held in most communities and the hotline number is found in the white pages. It is here that I learned how to keep the focus on myself, live one day at a time, not projecting to the future or dwell in the past and trusting a God of my understanding with the outcomes. Please keep coming back you're not alone
I, too, have said and done some very hurtful things while intoxicated. I spent a lot of time thinking about how I got there, and I was using alcohol to help me deal with my wife's over-consumption of alcohol. I thought if she could see how angry I was, and if she could experience me saying hurtful things when I was more drunk than her, some magical switch would go on in her head and she would realize that drinking is a problem and not want it in our lives anymore. Talk about a messed up coping strategy!
Thank goodness I found AlAnon, where I have learned that I am not alone and have been able to develop healthy coping strategies.
I am sorry that you are feeling lost, and I am glad that you reached out here. Please keep coming back. You are not alone.
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Skorpi
If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. If you are at peace, you are living in the present. - Lao Tzu
Hi, Crystal, I'm glad you have found us. There is a lot of wisdom here.
One thing to think about is that after three months there can be a lot of strong emotion, but we can't actually know another person that well - there just isn't time. They may feel as if they're our soulmate, but that's about the strength of our feelings, not about what we can know that early. When they leave us abruptly, that's another thing about them that we didn't know - it's not that they're wonderful, and then there's that one extra thing. That extra thing is also part of who they are. So maybe it felt like they had the potential to be wonderful, but it didn't turn out that they were. That's a hard truth to accept, often. When I sometimes found out how imperfect my adored ones were, it felt like someone had died.
The other truth is that someone who drinks as hard as you describe your friend drinking, is not really available to be in a free relationship with another person. The alcohol always comes first. It's very frequently the case that the alcohol has numbed them and kept them from growing up, so their ways of handling difficulty are immature and unhelpful. They're not easy to be in a relationship with - many times almost impossible to be in a relationship with.
It also sounds as if alcohol has been a factor in some things that went on on your side too. We generally are resentful when drinking produces unpleasant consequences - like "Hey! That's not fair! Drinking is supposed to be fun!" But after a certain point it does produce unpleasant consequences. When we take those on board instead of writing them off, that's when we can start living more serene lives.
I hope you'll read the threads on this site, find a good meeting, get the tools, and start heading towards a more peaceful life. And keep coming back. I know it's not easy. That's why we're here for each other. Hugs.
(((((Crystal))))) Welcome to the board and sad with you about the pain cause your story is part mine from the other side of the table. I can tell that you know stuff about the chemical and the disease that I didn't know when I first arrived at Al-Anon. I had to come to understand so that I could understand where I was at and who and what put me there.
Some long ago told me to look at my story as if I was someone else (Try that) and see what perceptions I came up with after and I got to see part of my part in the problem. Knowing my part is the most honest way of accepting the things I need to change in myself. At first I was appalled and then later with acceptance I was confident I could change and stop making the same choices over and over again while expecting different results in my life.
Ours is a step program...the first step says "We admitted we were powerless over alcoholism and that our lives had become unmanageable" I read that in your post and then it will have to be recognized and accepted by you to work. The second step say, "Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to "SANITY". There's that word...I wasn't SANE in the least. I didn't know anything about alcohol (mind and mood altering chemical) or alcoholism (disease of the mind, body, spirit and emotions, can never be cured and only arrested by total abstinence...is progressive, unless totally arrested will be progressive toward insanity and death. This is what I learned.
One thing I did was stop drinking...I am also a recovering alcoholic and the others was get with Al-Anon to be taught about the disease and how to stop living in it. Loosing my furniture became one of the very least of my losses, not having my alcoholic/addict chase me drinking was a win...she eventually got sober. Getting my sanity back is a daily gift.
Keep coming back here often...look in the white pages of your local telephone book for the Al-Anon program nearest you (we are world wide) and go as soon as you can. When there get literature and read it all. Talk to the fellowship and keep going back. In support (((((hugs)))))
Thank you so much for your insight. You have a beautiful way of articulating your words. I know it seemed like a rather short time we were together. That is another concern of mine. I just want to heal; Yes! For myself and my child. My son does not deserve to see his mother paining over lost love. I am trying to reach a point of serenity and peace within myself. I also would like to reach that point, because I love this man very much and if and when he ever returns I would like to stand firm in my convictions and help him through his alcoholism. You see, abandonment at a very young age, causes an extreme amount of immensible pain. Pain that can never be quite healed within you. This pain, leads to fears: fears of abandonment as an adult from those you love or try to love you, fear of rejection, and the fear of being alone. This fear is triggered by anyone or anything that poses a threat to our life or life's journey. We immediately retaliate with no remorse, and or lack of empathy. Our natural instinct is to hurt and to cause the same fearful pain we have been running from all our lives. I know this, because I was abandoned as a young girl by my biological father, and so was he. We both have spent years running from our pasts and never have had the opportunity to heal that hurt nor the pain. We yearn deep down inside for someone to rescue us from the tragedy, because when we were young no one ever did. We hold onto that yearning hope for so long. Because we don't have the strength to find it within ourselves or even know where to begin. No one knows how to rescue us from that fear; not even us, because we were such young children to have to endure such trauma at such a young age. We've stuffed, and dealt with, and continued to stuff our emotions along the way. Never once have we been given the opportunity to address or face those emotions and we don't know how. Nor do others around us, such as our parents and or loved ones, who can't even relate to our experience. Because they've never had an experience similar to ours or even close to it. Therefore, we play a part. A very deep, pleasing, passionate, part. All the while, we are starving for true love, true emotion, true happiness, true peace and joy in our hearts. We're forced to be strong, play a part as the survivor, and try not to let it get us down. Yet, because all we've ever known is to "stuff our emotions" and "deal with it." We don't know how to save ourselves, or how to even address what we're feeling deep down inside the storm, we are moving through. A storm of pain, fear, rejection, frustration and disappointment. From someone we loved so much and gave all our hearts too. The one(s) who pained us as a child.
I am praying for restoration and true healing within my heart and soul. Because I believe God brought us together for a reason. My ex never asked for the life he was given; he was simply placed in that horrible situation, just like me. So, I pray that through this, God will heal him, save him and restore in him a new light. I am working to give all the Glory to God and because of my Faith and the faith that I have in my Heavenly Father; I believe in restoration!
Thank you for such beautiful words of affirmation. You are truly a kindred spirit. Thank you.
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Thank you for sharing with me! I pray for healing and restoration in both our lives and I pray for you from this day forward as well.
You are so strong to have recognized your faults and address them for your sake and your loved one's sake as well. Thank you for your kind words and sharing with me your personal experience.
God Bless you!
-- Edited by cherrin872 on Friday 1st of May 2015 05:05:26 PM
Tyfsharing as well. I look forward to my Al-Anon meeting next week!
I am going to be taking up AA as well, and I am simply giving it all to God. I pray that he will restore in my ex; restoration and bring him to a point where he faces this ugly addiction and kicks it in the bootie once and for all. Addiction alone is so destructive and deserves no control over our lives and the lives of our loved ones. My ex and I are so strong to have survived our childhood and to have lived successful lives thus far. We deserve a good life, gods grace and a chance! Therefore, please join me in praying for him as well. Thank you again, for reaffirming in my heart that I'm not alone!
God Bless you!
-- Edited by cherrin872 on Friday 1st of May 2015 05:05:53 PM
I imagine a number of us here have experienced that deep abandonment in childhood. Not to write off the pain of it in any way - I mean I think you have found a group of people who have a deep experience of the kind of pain you've experienced. We do try many ways of making up for that pain and filling that hole. One of those ways is to find someone who kind of reminds us of the person who abandoned us - someone who seems like they have the potential to love us (as our parent had that potential) but who isn't able to give it to us just yet (the same kind of feeling we got from our parent). It feels like a "do-over" except this time we can get it right. When that person disappears on us, that triggers us to pursue them even more energetically. The abandonment brings back all the old feelings. And they will abandon us - because part of the reason we've become so devoted to them is their unavailability, which feels so much like our childhood.
There are some important differences, though. In childhood, it feels life-or-death to be abandoned, and to some extent it is. If a little child is abandoned by all her caregivers, she literally will die. So we're given the energy and the terror to motivate us to find that parent again. To save our lives.
But when we're grown up, we can take care of ourselves. We can work, we can cook, we know how to operate in the adult world. We won't die if one person or the other person isn't there. But because the situation reminds us so much of our childhood situation, it sometimes feels like we're going to die. That's a leftover feeling. It's not a real fear about our real adult situation.
We're also driven by this ancient pain to try to find a person who will save us. In the 12-Step groups they call it "filling a God-shaped hole." The thing is that no human, no matter how perfect, can fill that hole. That's a hole for the Higher Power, and treating a person as our Higher Power always ends in pain and disappointment. We need to see people as people, as who they are, not as gods who can rescue us - but who will ultimately fail us, because they're human.
I know that feeling of want to rescue someone else - because they obviously have a need, and it would be wonderful to be able to do something that valuable for someone, and once they're rescued then they can be there for me. The trouble with alcoholics is that they don't want to be rescued. They want to continue on with their alcoholism (which also involves self-absorption, selfishness, deception, and chaos). We try to convince them till we're blue in the face, how much they need rescuing. We can divert ourselves from our own pain for a long time, trying to make them see the light. But ultimately we're left again with our own pain and a chaotic alcoholic.
I hope you'll keep coming back, learning about the tools, and taking good care of yourself.
A relationship based on shared pain and wanting to "help" someone with their alcoholism is an absolute recipe for codependent chaos, drama, and disappointment. You sound like a loving and caring soul. I know I sound harsh. I just see a mentality I once had that brought me a lot of unnecesary pain in relationships and I would not want you to go through it. Life is short. Play with healthy people.
Abandonment is truly terrifying to me as well. I was fortunate enough to have parents who loved me and supported me throughout my childhood and even now to this day. Unfortunately, I never learned certain skills early on when it came to relationships. I find that I am very codependent and it has not contributed to my AW not suffering from any consequences from her actions. I have found that focusing intently on the reality that I am not in control and offering my will to my HP helps me to let go of my need to obsessively focus on her. Obsessive thinking is another issue I have. Focusing on the reality that our HP is always there for us, will never abandon us is very comforting. It allows for me to understand that humans are fallible and will eventually disappoint us.