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HP take me away... HELP PLEASE!


I am working of giving things up to my HP.  Trust has always been an issue with me and I am struggling with it here. 


I was wondering for those of you who fully trust your HP (and I know that is a whole lot of you) or even partially trust your HP,  do you beleive that everything that is done is done for your benefit in either the short or the long run?  If people are removed from your lives is there a reason?  Will you ever know of those reasons?  My sponsor always says I ask too many questions and should just accept things for what they are.  Well I am trying... and I guess the more people who tell me that the more I will start to accept it.


I could use any HP ESH possible!  I so badly want to surrender but a part of me is resisting.  Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated!


Linda


 



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Hi Linda,


I can answer from my own experience and that is it. But this is what I believe.


I believe that God does work for my benefit. But His will is not always my will and I have to accept His way, not mine. His timing is also not always the same as mine. I have spent a lot of time waiting. But I believe that all He does works for what is best for me.


I do believe that He will remove people/things from our lives that are not good for us. We may not always know the reason. If you will listen to that small quiet voice inside of you, He will give you exactly the answers you need.


I too had a terrible time trusting God because of some stuff that happened to me a long time ago. It took me a long long time to completely trust God. But He loves me and He has never let me down.


It has been a long hard road, but He never  abandoned me while I was trying to figure it all out.


Doxie



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Hello Sandi , I have learned that God is in evrything or nothing. Go back to step 3 and u will find your answers. For me surrendering my will took along time too, I discovered it ws about control for me, afraid to give up that last little bit I THOUGHT I had !!!!


I was told to sit down and list everything I had ever tried to stop this disease, nothing ever worked and as i sat at looked at my pitiful list I knew I had nothing to loose by trusting a HP who today i choose to call God.


It has been my experience that God works much faster on my problems than I ever did , and he has such inventive ways of making things work out. things I never would have thought of , I heard someone say once that God took everything she ever wanted so she could get everything she needed. that took me along time to understand.


And something else I always forgot was that my A had a God too and that he would take him where he needed to go.  I finally learned that there is a God and isn't ME.


goodluck  Louise        Just be still and know that HE is here.



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Hi Linda,


For me with HP it is not even thinking about whether the actions or inactions of HP are to my benefit.  I simply hand over what I cannot handle.  Mine is an acceptance that there is a HP out there whether it be god, buddha goddess etc.  I talk to HP or my friend who is deceased and just say out loud I need a little guidance here.  After that there is no analysis of what HP is doing or not doing to affect my life.  It is simply a statement that I need him/her at that time.  I have always believed that we have a guardian angel watching over us you don't need to be doubting of your trust in a HP because they will accept you for who you are.  Hope this helps.  Luv Leo xxx 



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Linda,


I am struggling with giving things up to my Higher Power.  I pray and tell my HP to take things out of my hands and I tell him that I am going to step back and let him deal with the chaos I call life.  Then I get up in the morning and try to do things my way.  He has always been there for me and has never let me down.  I struggle with his timing at times.


I believe he does take people from our lives for a reason, just as he put them in there for a reason.  We may never know what his reasons are.  When I figure something out, it is usually after I reflect on it years later.



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I believe in a combination of fate and choice. With that said, I believe that I'm placed on my map of live. There are many ways to get to the same desitination or the choices I make can take me to different destinations.

I believe that if I choose that path the HP intends to be best, the best outcome with me in mind will occur. If I don't, HP may give me multiple opportunities to make different choices with the same ends. Sometimes the road to that end looks easier one way and that is why I take it, that is when I'm not trusting that my HP has a better road for me if I can just get past the few ruts or bumps.

The trick for me is knowing his will. I ask my HP for signs and watch and listen for them. I hear and see them sometimes now where I never even was aware of them before. That's my progress.

That is how internally I process free will. After all, if my HP didn't intend for me to have it, why would he/she givien it to me? I think HP wishes you to choose his way and his time.

Bob

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Linda,


I need the visual sometimes because my mind can play tricks on me at times.  For the most part, I am successful at surrendering because each day I am given a sign that when I let God steer my boat, it's win/win for me.  For example, I could be late for an appointment and driving like a demon and lo and behold I get stuck behind a bus.  Rather than getting aggravated, I say "Ok God, I gotcha." and then what do you know, up the road is a police car doing radar. 


Daily, first thing when I awaken, I have a third step prayer on my bureau mirror, and I say the words slowly and consciously:


God (you can use HP) I offer myself to thee to build with me and do with me as you will.  Relieve me of the bondage of self that I may better do your will.  Take away my difficulties that victory over them may bear witness to those I would have helped of your power, your love, your way of life.  May I do your will always."


And finally when I know I am struggling, I get down on my knees which helps me to surrender.


Good Luck,


Maria



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Wow Sandie, great questions!

do you beleive that everything that is done is done for your benefit in either the short or the long run?

My take on this question Sandie is that no, I dont beleive that everything that happens around me is done for my benefit. Because my version of HP, whom I call God, doesnt "do" things to me to put me through a "school of hard knocks" so to speak. I think the hard knocks come from the fact that we have free will. Choices I make and choices that those people around me make do not always align with God's will for my life. But that just happen, well, because as the saying goes $%^& happens!.

Now I further beleive that God does try to protect me from bad things happening to me by the offerings He gives me when I reach out to it, whether that be by learning to make decisions in my life based on what His will is rather that mine, or by just looking around me with an "eye" to God and recognizing when He is giving me some help in making choices. I truly beleive that when I am paying attention, my HP does show me many things that I need to know.

All of these things that happen to us do benefit us if we choose to have them benefit us. Even those awful things, such as loosing a loved one to divorce or even death. For one thing it gives us that experience with which we can grow from, certainly demonstrates that we are NOT in control of everything that happens to us, and if we can invite God to come into our lives and help us to heal we can also be there working to help others who experience things similiar to what we have gone through.

I dont know if I did a very good job of explaining myself here Sandie, but thanks for you questions.....I needed them today!

Yours in Recovery,
David

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Sandie


I do believe that HP removes certain people from our lives for a reason.  I had an experience with a girlfriend of mine who I loved dearly and we did everything together but she was very pessimistic and negative.  She had major trust issues and she "wrote" people off as soon as they did something that made her mad.  I said something inappropriate one night to her that I didn't think was a big deal and she became very angry about it.  She refused to talk to me when I approached her to try and clear the air she refused to tell me what was wrong.  Eventually she emailed me and told me that I was the problem that my attitude was an issue for her.  I couldn't see that then, but I see it now.  We have not seen each other in over 2 1/2 years I believe HP removed her from my life so I could see where I needed work.  I have sinced wrote her a letter and asked for forgiveness and admitted my flaws to her.  She responded well.  We may never actually be friends like we were, but I feel confident now that if I run into her she is a friend not my enemy. 


My "a" is removed from my life as much as he can be right now, and I once again feel HP is telling me I have to look at my issues not his.  I could not do this in the relationship, I see now how entangled and enmeshed I have become in his life and his problems, and he likes me in that mess because I caretake and rescue.  Separation is hard I feel the raw pain of loss and the fear and anxiety, but HP is forcing me to look at that, I believe that is the only way HP can bring me up to a new level of success and health.  I believe wholeheartedly that HP is with us always even when we don't acknowledge it,and just waiting for us to meet him/her half way.  Keep praying for that revelation and it will reveal itself in time.  Stay strong


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It's interesting that you bring this up today.  Today is the anniversary of my father's death.  Four years ago.  I don't believe in God, and I don't necessarily think that there is any "good reason" that  people get taken from you.  But what I have found is that the world balances out.  I still miss my dad.  Nothing can replace him.  But the year he died, that same month actually, I met the love of my life.  I am not saying that it is always this even-handed or fair.  Life is usually not fair.  But it's an amazing gift.  So you find a reason to drag your butt out of bed every day and it hurts less and less as time goes on.  And there will still be wonderful moments in your life that make the whole thing worthwhile. 

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