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my kids are cheated!


my kids are being cheated!!


it is my father who is doing this to them. he used to be involved with them. he would drink occasionally, then more and more and now he has gotten so bad that we don't talk to him anymore. he is never sober! so we have no contact with him. it's not good for them & not good for us. my kids (3yr &1yr) LOVE my dad. they don't say it (b/c they're young) that they miss him, but i know they do. if we are driving somewhere that is close to his house, they clap and sing they are going to papaw's house. it makes my heart hurt. i don't take them over there b/c i don't want them to watch him stumble through the house, pass out in the middle of a sentence, say mean things...ect.


i stand firm that i don't want my kids to see him this way. so unfortunately, they don't get to see him at all b/c he is not willing to make a compromise. i feel bad for them. i feel like they have been cheated on growing up with having a great grandpa who loves them. but right now, he loves drinking more than his family. i can't live like that and i don't want them to live like that either.


i'm just sad, mad, and feel bad for my kids.


 thanks for listening--flintfeet



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You said:


 but right now, he loves drinking more than his family.


*******this is simply not true.  He is suffering from the disease of alcoholism and it has nothing to do with his love or lack of love for his family.  If at all possible get a hold of the Big Book of AA and read it cover to cover.  It will really help you understand what your dad is dealing with and help you not to take his actions so personal toward you and your children.  They aren't. 


The first step of AA is:  Admitted we are powerless over alcohol and that our lives have become unmanageable. 


Notice the word *powerless* in there.  That means having no control over.  Your dad doesn't choose to continue drinking.  He is powerless right now to stop.  This disease has nothing to do with choice. 


 



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Yes, he is not doing this 'to you'. If he was once a good and loving dad and grandfather, then you can be sure that this hurts him. It becomes yet another reason for him to drink, in fact. When they are sober, they realize what they have done to themselves and to those they love. They can't face the guilt, and so get drunk as fast as possible, so they don't have to feel it. Most A's have been dealing with negative emotion this way for their whole lives - they have an enormous backlog of pain and anger and guilt. In many ways this is what keeps them from sobering up - they know they will have to deal with this emotion, and can't imagine how it will be possible without the help of drink.


I used to try to make my husband feel guilty for what his drinking was doing to our family. In fact, I used to do stupid thigns to hurt myself, just to show him that it was making me crazy, jsut to show him how out of control our lives were. This always backfired.
A normal person deals with guilt by doing what they can to repair the damage, and then trying not to repeat the offending behaviour. An A deals with guilt by finding someone else to blame, so they don't have to feel guilty, and by getting drunk, so they don't have to face the fact that their version of events doesn''t really hold water. whatever I did to make him feel guilty was just feeding his self loathing, and keeping the cycle going.

You have broken off contact with your dad to protect yourself, and to protect your children. That is a good and reasonable step to take, if you felt it was necessary. If you are also doing this to in some way punish him, or shock him into sobering up, or in any way influence HIS behaviour, then please understand that it probably won't work the way you planned. That doesn't mean that you can't get the benefits of what you did to take care of yourself. You don't have to feel that you have abandoned your dad - instead you have given him over to his Higher Power, who can take better care of him than you can.

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I hear you Flintfeet, and unlike the others, I DO believe there is an element of choice involved with alcoholism and addiction, which makes it one of the most complex diseases out there.  NO, he has no choice over whether he is an alcoholic or not, that is one thing that is certain.  The element of choice, however, is that there IS a recovery program available to him, and he CAN choose to take that corrective action.


I guess I look at your kids situation from the other perspective.... you say that your kids are being cheated, but really, it is your Dad who is cheating himself, out of the love and thrills that come with grandchildren.  Your chosen course of action sounds to be the appropriate one for you, and who knows, maybe your dad will "get it", before it's too late for him to have a great relationship with his grandchildren.


Just my opinion


Tom



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