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RE: Confession


OK gang, now I get to tell you about some of my unhealthy behavior. It happened last night. I really don't know what to do about this and it upsets me terribly when it happens. I came home from work and made a salad for my husband and I and even brought it upstairs because we were going to eat in bed. Just a fun thing we do sometimes. Well, he was eating and just got kind of sloppy, a guy kind of way and said he was sorry, then he did it again and I stomped off downstairs. I was stewing downstairs. I know that it sounds kind of controlling and here it gets worse. I went back upstairs and he just sat there so I took my huge book and slapped it on our new dresser. It made an awful noise, still no reaction so I slammed the door. Naturally, it ticked him off. When I went back into see him he was mocking me, like saying in a squeaky voice, "what else can I throw to get my way" and tossed magazines. By the time he was done stuff was all over the floor. I grabbed the remote and changed the station. Then he went downstairs. I finally went down and apologized and he laid into me about how I can be so destructive and there have been times I have been. Once I threw dishes on the kitchen floor. I also turned over the computer screen. He was so mad and said he would not accept my forgiveness because I was being defensive. He slept downstairs and he didn't say bye when he left.

Now I tell you this because it lasted about 15 minutes. We were fine before and then boom! We do not fight very often but when we do it is like that. He will ignore me and it drives me crazy. He won't talk to me for awhile. He said he tries and I get too upset. He says he is not ignoring me, that he is trying to sort things out but it just does something to me. I feel so bad because I do feel that people have a right to take time away to think about things or just for whatever reason. But I have also seen the way he does other people and he just turns off, he will have nothing to do with them. I feel it is his way of punishing them and making them apologize. When we get like this it makes me think all kinds of things. I want to just leave, divorce, but I really don't. I am a maniac at the times he is mad at me. I am ready to go rent an apt and spend all my money and God, the things I think about. He said he doesn't know if one day I will come after him with a butcher knife and I said well, I don't know if you will walk out on me one day so we are even. But that is not so even now that I write it down. He was being dramatic but I don't want him to be afraid. He said it upsets him because his dad was so violent when he was younger. Well, my dad abandoned the family so we are hitting serious buttons everytime we fight. I cry like a baby when we fight or I won't and then explode days later.

I just don't know what to do. I tried to apologize last night because I know how things can escatate and I know it is more my fault but he won't accept so it will take awhile for him to get over. I can appreciate that but not talking just isn't the way to be. I have that huge test on Friday and I didn't even study after that happened.

We also got into a big argument the day my mother came to see us a month ago. He decided that day was the day to get all upset because I don't answer my cellphone. He never does that, just blow up but he was mad. I have to put my cellphone on vibrate at work so I forget to turn it back on when I get out. So he calls and I don't get it. He wrote me an email telling me he was not going to call me again and that he was not going to take his cellphone with him anymore either. That he was always worried about me but since I am not about him he was going to quit. Then we got into it when my mom was here and it was just a mess. I couldn't help but cry. He does still call me and he keeps his cellphone with him now. I can't feel too bad about my mom, she and my dad used to get in knock down dragouts when we went to see my grandmother. I was always afraid we would have wrecks on the way and then they would fight the whole time we were there.

I am so confused. These are the times I feel my weakness, my past just slam me in the face. I know if I had grown up in a healthy famliy I would not react this way. I feel so scared and lonely when he is this way and it doesn't make sense. He is still there for me, I still live in this nice house. He is very committed to me. He has told me that just because we are in an argument doesn't mean that is the end. I am just terrified of being tossed out, left, alone. My husband is like the house is half mine, he can't kick me out but I can't help it.

Anyway, this is my confession. I knew I would act out soon enough and you would get to see my true colors. I hope you don't think I am too awful. I am going to try and just be calm today. I am not going to bother him at work, just give hime space. It is hard but I can't deal with it anyway. When we fought over the cellphone issue I had to leave work early and almost had a panic attack. When I say these things I have to also mention that most of the time I am very strong, very together. I am not a nutcase. I have come along way. My husband and I love each other very much, we are very committed to our lives together. to our future. Most of the time we get along really well. But these outbursts are devestating to both of us. I know he is as upset as I am. He won't even eat when we argue. He just goes into a shell. I just wish I knew what to do. We have tried talking it out and even try to come up with solutions but that is easier to do when you aren't angry and hard to put into practice when you are.

Anyway, I will stop now. I didn't mean to write a book. I am a writer in my heart and soul. For those of you who read all this I appreciate you so much. My heart is sad and lost right now. I know it will be ok but I just wish I could change. Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bella


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(((Bella))),

This reminds me so much of when I was with my A. Since we seperated I miss him very much, but I don't miss the chaos. My life is a lot more settled now.

It's true that the environment of our upbringing shapes our lives somewhat, and that it can be terribly hard to break free from unhealthy family behaviours. But in the end, we are adults, and as adults are free to make our own decisions. We are free to make choices to change unhealthy behaviours. I know this is not easy to do, but I believe if we want to change badly enough we will take the steps towards making it happen.

and writing is good, it helps you see

blessings,
AM

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The worst part of this is that you are both doing it to eachother and the fight was over something really stupid. I think the first thing is to ask how important is it before you say a word. Is this a marriage ending event? Do I want to pick a fight over this? Someone posted a reply to me the other day about fighting with my kids and them being slobs and she said pick it up and don't bitch or pick it up and don't bitch. I still have a hard time with that but am getting better. He grew up in a violent family so you being violent scares him. Is that your intent? To scare him? If not, you might want to consider fighting fair and not acting out in a violent manner when he does this. Think of some other way to vent your frustrations. Go downstairs away from him and punch a pillow or something LOL. As for your abandonment issues, it sounds like he has validated you as much as possible on that. He said he wouldn't put you out, it doesn't sound like he's leaving. The best thing I can say is that you have to accept in your heart that you are safe with him and even if he did leave you could make it on your own. Then when you get the urge to act out (I get the urge to hit my daughter... it's VERY hard to resist) Take a few steps back, get away from him and try to calm down. Him walking away is a healthy behavior it is your insecurity that takes it as this is the end it's all over. I used to think that way too and I didn't think I had abandonment issues. I hope something of this helps. I know it's hard to get yourself under control when your buttons are pushed but you are strong and you are the only one who can control you.

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Easy does it! Can't tell you how many times I have had my "moment" and my AHsober has sat smugly behind his wall. When he finally talks to me it is to say "see it's you, you are crazy not me".

This is called immaturity and we are imperfect. Quit beating yourself up over it. Keep trying as we all are to find different tools to solve problems and conflicts.

In support,
Nancy

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Hi Bella,

Your post reminds me of myself early in my program.  I saw myself over reacting, as I think others saw it for the first time.  It made me really upset with myself.  Now I see that moment as a huge step in learning the 3 A's of alanon. Awareness, Acceptance, Action.

I became 1. "aware" that I was reacting this way.  It wasn't pretty and it wasn't something I was proud of.

2.  I Accepted that I had behaved in this manner and there wasn't anything I could do to change the past.

3.  From that day forward I could take the actions necessary to stop.  This was something I could change.  I have to learn to take a second... say the serenity prayer, quiet myself, get away from the activitiy ...what ever I need to do so I don't go there.  Sometimes just the awareness will stop me dead in my tracks...I can think..ah no not for me...have i slipped up? sure but the going gets a bit easier each time..

Take it slow Bella...Alanon is a journey, not a destination...Be easy on yourself!

God Bless,

Carol

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I think a healthy family to grow up in is helpful. But I had a great family life--I never saw my parents argue at all. They may have disagreed but even that was behind closed doors. My mother and father never lifted their voices--you always knew you were in deep trouble when my mom started to whisper. Even though that was a great way to grow up--man do I have a temper!! I raise my voice--rarely to my husband, but I do to my kids. It takes a lot of control sometimes to not try and knock the fire out of my husband. I have no idea where it comes from, but I sure can brew and stew!!! I have all kinds of horrible thoughts after arguements w/ my spouse! I have been divorced once already and I think that is why the thought jumps into my mind so readily now. Divorce is not one thing I was taught growing up--I was taught you stick it out and work through it. Fighting (disagreeing) does not seem to bother my husband at all, but it tears me up!

When I have a "meltdown" or little hissy that then starts something w/ him--and lets face it he will always win after I have acted like a child--even if he responds in a child manner it is so what the a is used to that they think nothing of it--except maybe to tell you how you need to better use your program---I always feel horrible. I really hurt myself, my self-esteem and attitude more than I hurt or make my point with him. That's what frustrates me more than anything.

So all this has been said to say that you are not a bad person, you are just human! We get ourselves in these messes and the trick is not to stay there. Learn from them and maybe next time things will go differently.

Good luck on your test! Hang in there.

dawn

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You know what?  Why not just try working on your end of things, and see how it goes? 
You do admit that some of this is yours, so here's the opportunity to "let it begin with me" and work on the parts of your own behaviour that you are not happy with.  Spend a couple of months focusing on this, and then sit back and take a look at what has changed.  Maybe he will change in response to you, maybe he won't - either way you will have learned something.

I found that when *I* stopped yelling, there was half as much ugly noise in our house.  That was an improvement, no matter WHAT he did.


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Dear (((Bella)))

I saw myself so much in your post. I too had an A father, and married and A. In the early years of our marriage (34 years now) I used to have panic attacks whenever my AH would drink and cause chaos at home. I couldn't stand it when things were out of control.

Since I have been involved with Alanon, I have fewer episodes. I wish I could say that I never have them, but I am still in recovery, and my husband is still drinking, something I know now that I can't control. Why do I stay with him you may ask. I love him and I have learned that I didn't cause the drinking and I can't cure it. I wish I had had these tools growing up in an alcoholic home.

I am still working on my steps. I feel that I am getting better, I no longer dwell on past mistakes, and just live life "One day at a time". If I fall again into past mistakes I just pick myself up and begin my journey again.

I do not think you are awful, to do so would be to condemn myself as well.

Take care of yourself,

Cookie

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Hi Bella,
I read all of your post and it was so familiar, like dejavu familiar. My AH and I used to have this very same dynamic going. I would steam and fume, yell and scream, slam doors and throw things. He would slink away into his shell and not come out for nothing. I also have really bad abandonment issues. He also had a verbally violent father. Similarities are spooky, huh?

The thing is, this is not just bad childish behavior. The fears behind these actions are very emotionally charged and real for us. When I started looking into my past for the answers I realized that I had felt abandoned many times in my life, while people were telling me that I was fine and well taken care of. So I didn't even realize my fear was abandonment.

My AH's dad was not just a yeller, he is a 350# giant of a man. My H was not just afraid of him, he was wet-your-pants terrified of him as a child. His mother encouraged this as a way to get at his dad.

So, I realized that when I did not control my behavior I was not trustworthy to my H. His fear reaction was, in effect, legitimate. He would not hash it out. Would I want to hash it out with a violent tempered drunk? No. I had to control myself. The way I did this was to really look hard at the cause of my fear. When I did I was able to change my unrealistic fear of him leaving me, into my reality of being confident, not only that he will not leave, but that even if he did, I would be fine. THEN I could deal with the leftover habits of bad childish behavior.

My AH and I have been a wonderful success story in this respect. As soon as he started to feel a bit of trust that I could control myself, he started to open up. The difference now is like night and day. We really no longer have fights. We have slightly heated discussions sometimes, but we are both in control of ourselves.

I know this is long, but I hope it helps. I am a writer at heart, too.LOL

In recovery,

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Jen, your last post on this topic is phenomenal. Really helpful for me to see myself and my marriage. So incredibly relevant. thank you for your post. Helps alot.

-- Edited by Jean4444 at 18:53, 2007-11-07

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Thank you so much for your responses. I feel so much better after reading what you have posted. I read them at work and then more when I got home. It feels good not to be alone. I am going to really try to look at some of the reasons I get so upset and start trying to take better care of me.

Thank you all so much,
Bella

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