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Is this true?


I have heard that alcohol withdrawl is the only withdrawl that can kill a person. I believe I heard this from an A. It might have even been in conversation about a heroine addict withdrawl and how they can't die from withdrawl from herione or any substance other than alcohol. Anybody know if this is true?

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Aloha El!

From my experience most of the withdrawal deaths did not happen to the drunk but to some victim usually family, spouses, friends, close associates etc.  Withdrawal is the event of the mind, body, spirit and emotions loosing dependence on the chemical alcohol.  Today most withdrawals are attended by professional staff. Most all alcoholics I have been associated with and have gotten to know have told me that when they felt the pain of withdrawal and couldn't take it anymore...they turned back to the chemical and held the withdrawal off for another attempt.  Withdrawal symptoms are many and range from near manic episodes to rage, anxiety, depression, loss of personal control over mind, body, spirit or emotions.  Those who don't turn toward help usually turn back to the bottle.  Alcohol is a powerful contolled substance that is considered benign or outside of the controlled definition.  It probably figures in the multitude of early death rates than any other chemical.

There are various opinions.  Mine is from experience as a professional and victim.

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Argh Jerry, that is some heavy information. Talk about getting to the point!''

From a more medically emphasized pov, any "downer" including pill downers have the same danger of seizures and death. With alcohol, you have the liver disease and the brain toxicity on top of seizures.

The heroin or opiate addicts I worked with WISHED they would die, and felt like they would, but dope sickness itself doesn't cause death. Just pure hell in the suffering.

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((((((((((Serendipity))))))))),

Well from my personal experience, my A nearly died from withdrawl and the DTs. After we got him to the hospital where he had seizures from the alcohol the doctor talked to me. He specializes in addiction and absolutely believes that you can die from withdrawl depending on the circumstances. Medically he told that the last week before he went to the hospital (and before I found Alanon), that if I had not kept giving him small amounts of alcohol that he would have died. Medically it is the hardest drug to withdrawl from according to this specialist. Cocaine, meth etc don't have easy withdrawls, but they are not prone to having seizures. Alot of it will depend on hard the person drank and how much. Do some research on the medical sites and see what you can come up with. I believe that National Instutitues of Health has some really good information.

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You can die from alcohol withdrawl but it is not the ONLY withdrawl you can die from. You can withdrawl from anti depressants, xanax, pain killers. You can have seizures and you can die. Any drug that works on the brain you can have severe withdrawls. Alcohol is the most common because MORE people drink then do the others. Usually with the other drugs you can wean yourself down to have less withdrawl symptoms.
Delirium tremens, also known as the DTs, is the most serious of several syndromes that can occur when someone who is physically dependent on alcohol stops drinking. By serious, I mean that people with this condition can die. Even with hospital treatment the death rate can be 1-5%, but without treatment it could be 20%. Even convulsive seizures--another alcohol withdrawal syndrome--are less likely to be lethal than the DTs.

Symptoms of DTs typically start 2-4 days after the last drink in someone with prior heavy and prolonged consumption of alcohol. Earliest signs of DTs can be the three T's--temperature elevation, tremor and tachycardia (rapid heartbeat). The affected individual can experience anxiety, restlessness, nausea, and impaired sleep. By the time delirium tremens becomes fully developed, it includes the entire battery of "grizzly bear" symptoms mentioned above. These occur because a portion of the nervous system responsible for regulating basic bodily processes, the sympathetic system, jumps into overdrive.

But DTs involve much, much more. The parts of the brain responsible for perception and thought go haywire. Ordinary lights and sounds seem excessively harsh. The afflicted individual becomes confused, agitated, and even psychotic. He or she might even fail to identify family members. There is constant and sometimes incoherent talk. Ordinary components of the environment, like patterns on wallpaper, can be perceived as frightful threats, like spiders or snakes.

Moreover, hallucinations can occur. These can include terrifying sights, sounds or smells that others in the room can't detect. In addition, there can be distressing sensations as if the skin is being touched by insects or other unseen intruders.

At first, the person in DTs might have lucid intervals in which he or she makes appropriate conversation, but then becomes more continuously inaccessible to questions. Subsequently, the symptoms subside usually in a matter of days and recovery can even be sudden.

What makes these terrible things occur? The evidence to date suggests that in people with heavy and prolonged drinking, the brain gets used to alcohol's constant presence, and the normal chatter among brain cells no longer gets toned down by alcohol like it does in the brains of occasional drinkers. The brains of heavy drinkers probably accomplish this by reducing the number of locations on brain cells where the natural inhibitory chemical, GABA (gamma-amino-butyric acid), can act to slow things down.

So what if alcohol is suddenly removed from the picture? In that case, the brain's GABA has fewer locations on which it can act to put on the brakes. As a consequence, the brain's cells become unmanageably over-active, and the symptoms of delirium tremens ensue.

DTs are a medical emergency requiring hospitalization, generally in an intensive care unit. The patient needs intravenous fluids, vitamins, nutrition, and correction of salt-and-water imbalances in the bloodstream. Drugs known as benzodiazepines are usually administered to relieve the over-excitation of brain cells. The medical team searches for complications, like infections or irregular heartbeats, that require other treatments. Medical personnel monitor the patient frequently. Family and friends provide valuable assistance by keeping the patient calm.

But in delirium tremens the old adage applies--an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The best case is the one that doesn't happen. Of course, this doesn't mean that a patient with alcohol dependence should continue drinking. Rather, it means that professional help should be enlisted in order to withdraw from alcohol safely

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i think withdrawal from any substance can be difficult. I am not sure I would make blanket statements about what withdrawal can kill and can't. I think it depends on how long someone has been using. My younger sister went through dt's when she was in her teens.

That is she shook all over. Withdawal can be managed by a doctor/nurse. For some people withdrawal symptoms go on for a long time.

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