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Drinking with the alcoholic?


I am at a very strange point where I don't know what I want in my life. My boyfriend, fresh out of rehab is drinking again- the first few days started out being able to hold it together until I went to bed then yesterday just went on a full out drinking binge all day. When I got home I was very proud of myself. I didn't act disapointed or say anything at all. But I told him that if it was going to be like this then I didn't think we should live together anymore because I didn't want to be around him drunk. I told him that it was his choice if he drinks or not but living together, I have to be around him drunk, passed out or whatever and I don't like it.

I know that this is what I want..but I sometimes I really miss the days when we were first dating and we just went out and had fun (usually drunk) and I didn't think about alcoholism every day. I just want to be a normal couple! I feel like living with him and his drinking has driven us apart at least on my end because I look at him completely differently. Now either he's sober and not really in a good mood, or he's drunk- and we all know where that ends up (not just drunk but incoherent).

Is it extremely hurtful to the alcoholic if we drink with them sometimes? I was so ready to completely cut out bars and other things involving alcohol, if he wasn't drinking. But it truely doesn't do any good! Whether or not we go out, or I have a drink- he will still drink! So what if we went out to a bar this weekend? Would that be encouraging him? Is it so wrong that I know that he'll be drunk by the end of the night anyways that at least I can have a little fun with him? I don't want to sabatoge his recovery but I know that it's not up to me and I'm at a point where I'm kind of giving up on him (as sad as that sounds cry). I know that he is so addicted that it will take a LOT of work on his part to stay sober and right now he's not at that point.

Ahh! Feeling frustrated! Any words of wisdom would be appreciated aww


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(((((Summer))))),
Wow I feel for you hun. I have struggled with that one myself.

For me I look inside me before I make a decission. What are my motives, expectations, asking myself the why questions. Am I doing this becuase I want to? Or am I doing this to feel a connection to him? More often than not for me it was to feel the connection. And for me that was the wrong reason. Going down a dangerous path I don't want to go down. 
 
I have on had a few with my hubby. He is going to drink with or without me. I can take it or leave it. And we have had our fun, but in the end for me it wasn't what I wanted and I end up feeling frustrated and with less money than I walked into the bar with.

In the end hun, it all comes down to your choice. For me I have chosen to stay away from mind altering substances for 1, I don't need them. I don't miss them. and 2, While he is in my home I don't allow alcohol and/or drugs in my home. This is more for keeping my kids safe and for keeping his "friends" away from our home as well.

Now hub has been in jail since January and I have has some alcohol in my home since he has been gone. And I will admit that it has been nice.

It all comes down to choice. What are you willing to live with and what are you not willing to live with? Do you enjoy being able to go out and having a few drinks? How important is that to you?

See the beauty of this program is that we can all learn from eachother, learn different tools. But we don't all have to do things the same way.

I hope you find the ESH you need and keep coming back.

Yours in recovery,
Mandy
formerly know as Dolphin


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Hi summergrl,

One of the things we must learn to get anywhere is that when we have a boundary we must be willing to enforce it. Idle threats that aren't enforced just teach the alcoholic that you don't mean what you say and give them the green light to tromp the boundary.
Telling him that you don't want to live with him or be around him drunk, then have a night of drinking with him is sending mixed signals. Ultimately it is your choice, but that's my view.

In my experience it was used against me. I heard "So it's alright for me to drink as long as you are having fun?" or "I can only drink when it meets your approval, otherwise it's not ok?"

You get the picture..It is common for the alcoholic to use things you say and do against you. Anything to take the focus off of them.

Christy




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(((Summergirl))))),

I chose not to drink with my AH. I didn't feel comfortable around him doing that. I also felt like a hypocrit. If I wanted to have a drink, I would have one with dinner when I went out with my friends. Now my AH reminds me, that he's perfectly comfortable around people who drink, because he knows he's strong enough not to anymore. However, I'm still not comfortable enough doing it in the house. It's not that I don't trust him. It's his choice to drink or not. But I just really don't care that much about it. Frankly I'm almost losing my taste for it in any situation. Ultimately we are all responsible for the choices we make (including the alcoholic) and we have to live with the consequences.

Love and blessings to you and your family.

Live strong,
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Lots of good points here. Ultimately, do what you want to do, without secretly plotting as to the effect it will have on him.

I'll tell you what worked for us. I made no boundaries at all on how much, where and what my husband drank. My boundary was on how he treated me - no abuse, speak to me with respect. I had a couple of others - no dealing drugs, no smoking crack in the house. He had his own that he would not cross - he kept his job, he was always good to the kids, that type of thing. He knew that I would have loved it if he had stopped drinking, but we never spoke about it, (this is after years and years of speaking about it all too much....) If I wanted to drink with him I did; if I didn't , I didn't. Sometimes we went out together, sometimes he went out alone, sometimes I did. We were not terribly close during this time, but things were pretty tolerable. We were even fairly happy, in our own way. Eventually, after about three years of this, his own life got bad enough and he sought recovery. My encouragement or lack of it had very little if anything to do with him going into rehab.

The point of all of this is that what works for you will be personal. There are people here who can't stand if the A drinks at all - one beer is enough to make them very unhappy. There are others who don't care as long as he doesn't set fire to the house. You need to look deep into yourself and see what really bothers YOU, and draw your lines accordingly. And, what works for you now may not five years down the line, as his disease progresses, or as you find that you have needs that there is no healthy alternate way to have met. You don't have to make a plan now that will last the rest of your life - you just have to get through today, with some serenity and some joy.

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Hi Summergirl.

During the 15 years of marriage to my AH he has tried to quit drinking several times.  With each time that he has tried to quit, I have responded differently.  The very first time I did all the things you'd think you should do, throw out all the booze in the house, not drink myself, turn down invitations with friends where I knew alcohol would be present, and try to plan activities during what would be his usual heavy drinking times.  With each time he quit over the past years I did less and less of those things.  It didn't matter, none of it worked.  The only thing it did was leave me feeling resentful.

The last time he decided he was going to make a go at quitting again was last October.  I didn't do anyting different.  If I wanted to have a glass of wine at dinner, I did.  If friends came over, we would have drinks if we wanted to.  Don't get me wrong and think that I was not being supportive, I was.  I just realized at some point that the choice to drink or not drink was his to make, and I could do anything about it.

He has been drinking again.  Not in front of me, but I know he has, and  I do not feel responsible for it one bit.



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Hi summergirl
I would never go to a bar or take a drink with my alcoholic, i dont think its encouraging them because i dont think they need any encouragement but for me it feels like i would be okaying their drinking and its not ok. my A is on a path of self destruction while he is drinking i will not walk that road with him i wont even take one single step........may i suggest you pray for guidence here, when i dont know what to do i find it best to do nothing but pray

love lilac1

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