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Lets Show John What he does for us.


smileHi Everyone,

I was thinking about all thats going on with another allegation on John. I also saw the last ones.  It got me to thinking alot since it has happened. I am a little disturbed because things like this happen in our personal lives also, in work or, at home. It also made me remember how very much the founder of this site John F. used to chat. He used to chair meetings weekly and we gained so much for those in the past.  

I have found that in my years online i noticed and i see it in person to, so its bothering me. I noticed that people attack the strong ones, what we dont realize is that the strong are not made of steal and they can feel just as we can.  We are all human beings with feelings, some more recovered some less recovered.

I also have noticed that we can be really really mean and then when we have a problem that needs to be solved we expect the founder to fix it. He does of course, my intention for this post is not to reprimand us, i have done my share of complaining at different times also.

My intention is to choose the road of recovery and i need to see that there is good out there online and in person also. I know that we all have recovery and i knwo that this site has helped all of us when we desperately needed it.

I realized that i take this site for granted. With the choice to leave or stay at anytime, however i never realized that next time it may not be here to come back to. That bothers me a little. .

I know John was disturbed by the allegation as we all were.  I want you to do something for him. So i ask you, if this site has helped you in your life whether you are new or old to  please share some of that here. Show John we do have the recovery that his brings.

Can you do it???? What have you learned from Mip since you joined??? Please tell me here! Lets show our founder. that his site does rock!!!! If i were in his shoes i would want to see it, so i wanted him to, as im sure you do.
 I ask you all to share a little of your mip experience. If you dont mind smile


Love yas

kerry


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Though I have not been here long, I have learned alot from this site.  I was at my witts end when I finally searched and found someone to talk to.  And it wasn't just anyone, it was people who had or were still dealing with the same problem I had- loving an alcoholic.  This site started me on the path to healing.  I now feel better about myself, my kids, and my alcoholic husband.  I can see that my children are happier, and I know that I am happier since I started learning the 12 steps and traditions. 

Without this site, I would be in the same spot I was 4 months ago, trying to fix the alcoholic and feeling sorry for myself-and wanting someone else to fix me.  I know now that I am the only one who can fix me, with the help of my HP.  And I am so greatful that anyone can come here and feel cared for, not shunned, and recieve love.  smile



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It wasnt very long ago  i wrote this so i will post it here i meant every single word and still do.


I had to write this to you.  I am in a very new place in my life, i am shocked really. Never before have i trusted myself. I lived most of my life and still do put down by every single person that i know face to face(no exageration). I have never trusted myself to make decisions i always need major reassurance that it is ok to do first. That doesnt always come as you know. I keep going back to the first time i came to mip lately, so must mean it is time for this.  I remember being so out there and so give me an answer and yesturday! So hyper,so angry, so obessed, i lived my life in the past, i had a bad marriage and i didnt know which to share first. My thoughts went to fast however i still shared. It was when my mother was still alive, i was still married and had to little babies. Just diagnosed with depression and on a massive amount of meds.


Today i am med free, God feels like another life time ago to me...it was... I came to mip and shared and shared and vented and vented and spoke to you when i was new all the time. You were not as busy then as you are now lol.  I was in mip for a few years and finally got ti courage to divorce after i spent a year finding out my rights, and going to counceling for marriage, the ppl in the room told me it was ok to do. And so did all the doctors and even my marriage councelor told me to divorce lol. I used to complain all the time what a bad marriage i was in every single day and i never did anything about it then till years later. I remember you giving me a chance to do service work and i was stunned that you did. And eventually you gave me more and more as i told you i had alot of free time.


I left alanon after divorce i have shared before so i wont go into that now. However i took some wrong roads and i left for years. I came back a month before my mother was diagnosed with cancer and was really very angry more than the last time and i vented at everyone, im sure you remember lol. Stuff happened and eventually i lost my internet for a few months and that is when i realized i was all alone. In the beginning i thought hp was saving you all from me. However in reality he was showing me that i was capable to pick up on my own even though i have a recovery room to go to.


Before i came to this room, i was in alanon f2f and that was a social group. My recovery has come from mip. I have been to most rooms in mip and was a member in many. You gave me the courage  to try things, It amazes me how much you do for people like me. By that i mean the ones that are lost, not listened to most of the time, i felt like an invisible person in the world, someone who could be easily forgotten about and i have been most of the time in my life, its the way i felt then. If i didnt have this room i wouldnt of divorced, or gotten threw the death of my mother, or had the courage to face some things in my past.


Thank you for believing in me when no one else has. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to give service. IT is through that i learned i had skills, it was through your service work that i realized i was a efficient person in the work i do.(get compliments often on that) REalized that i am capable of much more than anyone in my life (f2f) thinks and alot more than i thought too.


I havent found the person i want to be yet. I am starting homeschooling next week!!! Never in a million years would i think i could do this.  I have a picture of who i want to be and what i want for me and my children, I dont want just serenity any longer i want complete recovery. There is a ton of more work for me to do. I feel like i have grown up a little since last year and it is you to thank for it.


You gave us all a place to come to and you ask for nothing in return. You have helped 1000's recover from the effects of alcoholism and so much more with all you have done with mip. I for one am very grateful, i want to thank you for every single thing you do for people that have no where else to turn. For the first time in my life i am being true to myself and it feels terrifying and also exciting. thank you for allowing me to recover on my own time, in my own way, without judgement. There are alot more people i could thank however they know who they are. I thank you because without you i wouldnt of met them. The ones that helped me and listened to me vent along the way. The ones that took me to pm when my anger got out of hand, and listened to me go off in pm. The ones that will continue to support me no matter how out there my decisions are. Thank you for the assurance that it is ok to be who i am and where i am in recovery. Without mip i wouldnt be where i am today which isnt as far as i wanted to be years later however hps plan looks better to me now :)


 ((((((((((((((John)))))))))))))


kerry



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I found MIP in July 2005 and it was a godsend.  My life was a mess due to the affects of A'ism.  Everyone was so loving and supportive and I began to learn more about Alanon than I ever had before.  Through this website I have found strength, hope, and learned from other's experiences and been able to share in my own.  I have made some good connections with people through this website and some that I hope will last for a long time to come. 
It is sad that others have felt the need to attack and accuse the founder of this website and its even sadder if those allegations lead to the destruction of something wonderful that has helped so may people. 
Thanks John for your persistence and committment in bringing an opportunity for recovery to the world online.  My prayers are with you and for the well being of this website. 

Peace,
Twinmom~

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Turned out longer than I first thought. lol.

What has MIP done for me?

Almost exactly 1 year ago I was at wits end.  I was ready to throw in the towel and give everything up.  I was ashamed of my husband, myself, and our life.  I had let this disease eat at me so much I was a completely different person than before I was introduced to alcoholism.  I was SO angry all the time, about everything and I thought that my AH was the entire cause of it all.  If only he would put down the stupid beer and be man! lol.  In my mind he was the root of all our problems, me not taking care of myself or our home, and all of my sadness.  I was so good at taking HIS inventory without even knowing it.

Then one night in total despair I did a search online for Alcoholism and came up with MIP.  I seen the Alanon site and thought "aha they will tell me how to keep him from drinking and what a loser he is and how great I have been!"  Little did I know (and at first to my great anger) I learned that I was sick too.  What!!!  NO!  It was all him and I wanted someone  to tell me how to stop him from ruining all our lives.  I stayed around though because I started hearing stories from others and reading the literature and slogans.  Took a while, but I finally realized what a huge part in this disease I played and that alot of our problems were on my shoulders not just AH's. 

When I started implementing the things I heard and read, my life changed.  Not over night, but with alot of work.  Now I am strong, independent, and I take responsibility for my part in this disease.  From this site I have learned to detach with love, that I was a huge enabler, and so much more that I could never give back what was given to me. 

I know this has been long, but had I not stumbled across this site I would still be living that same life or worse.  I would have never walked into a room of people in my small little town to learn the things I have learned with Al Anon.  Why if I did those people would find out my shame, how different form everyone else that I thought I was!!!  MIP gave me the strength and knowledge to be able to attend f2f meetings.  This site has been a life saver for my and my family.  I am a better person now and that reflects through my actions today. I am proud.

I have this site to thank for allowing me a safe place to fall.  A wonderful group to sneak off to when I thought my world was bearing down on me.  My wonderful little secrect until the folks here helped me find the strength not to be ashamed or scared anymore. 

Simply put this room saved my life!  I love everyone here and it would be a complete shame if anything ever happened to this site. So much love and support is given, what a waste if it was ever taken away. 

Thank you John for your service!  I love you!

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((((((((Alanuts))))))))

Oh where to begin?? For almost 3 yrs I was living in Turkey,with my Turkish A,loving him so much.......and tearing my hair out at how to deal with his alcoholism. I spent months and months on end trying to get help for him AND for me. Every attempt found me up against a brick wall. Yes,there was AA here,but NO there was no Alanon.(not where I live anyway). Worst was that anything I did find was in a language I didn't understand,and a four hour bus trip away!!I felt doomed to be honest. I didn't want to give up on my A,or our relationship,yet every week I knew I was sinking further and further into despair. The frustration I felt at feeling so helpless was overpowering me,and I began not to trust my own judgement and feel bad about myself. 

I gradually isolated more and more. Any friends I did have drifted away when the chaos of living with an A became too much for them to bear anymore.They didn't want to be around him and I wasn't the fun person I used to be anymore either.My sole topic of conversation became all about the A and I got lost in the quagmire of alcoholism.My whole personality had changed from being a fairly positive,bright and personable character to a withdrawn,frightened,miserable,negative,angry,frustrated, confused mess.

Then I found MIP!!!!! I started to learn about alcoholism from people who actually knew what they were talking about. I learned that I had choices. I learned that I was an enabler(dang it!!!)I learned that there were people out there that had lived through and survived the mess my life had become. I learned that were people who actually cared about me,and wouldn't abandon me when the going got rough.I learned that there was another way,and the lessons I was learning would help me with my everyday life,forever.............not just for a short period of time. I saw a way out!!!! 

I still don't have face to face. I don't have a sponsor. I don't have meetings(except the ones I hold with two other women occassionally when things are too much for them to bear-it's a case of the blind leading the blind there!LOL )

The ONLY thing I have is MIP. Without MIP I would have sunk. Quite literally. No question. Without this board,without the wonderful people here on MIP my life would still be unmanageable..........and I have no doubt that I would have ended up in a psychiatric ward somewhere.

My humble gratitude to the founder of this site knows no bounds. HONEST!!! 

Thank you (((((John))))

From the bottom of my heart. THANK YOU.

((((HUGS))))

Chris.

 

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All I can say is that they don't call it "Miracles in Progress" for nothing. Words can't express the gratitude and love I have for this place or for the founder.  I have been in the meetings where John's shares have had me crying and touched my soul.  He's a remarkable human being.  At the end of his very, very, very long stay on this earth, we all know where he is headed. floating.gif  It pains me to no end when I see a family member attacked, and for what reason?  I can only remind myself that the attacker is sick and obviously needs help.

I am at a loss for words when trying to convey what this place has done for me, and for what my family here means to me.  THANK YOU JOHN FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. worship.gif   I can't even begin to imagine where I would be if I hadn't found this site.  Hubby may have continued his recovery, but that wouldn't have done me any good if I hadn't found this place and started on my journey of recovery.  It scares me to think about it.

Much love and blessings to John and his family.

Live strong,
Karilynn & Pipers Kitty heart.gif


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What have I gained from MIP?

There is not enough room on the entire internet to post about all of the wonderful blessings. The new recovery family that joined my support system, furthered my recovery and broaden my understanding and acceptance of others.

Thank you John for the concept of MIP, for the long hours that it took to get it started and the maintenance work - It is very much appreicated.

Peace,
Rita


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Well... when I finally paid attention to my HP and tried alanon I was near collapse. My life was not only unmanageable, it was unbearable. I started going to meetings and reading literature, but found I was uncomfortable being away from my kids long enough to spend sit down time with people from my home group.

At the time, my AW and I were still living together, and I found this site. I get experience strength and hope in my meetings, but the "reason things out with one another" part of the program I needed BADLY! I found that here.

Almost 18 months and a 1000 posts later, I am just getting the tip of the iceberg in serenity, but without this site, I wouldn't even be in the lifeboat.

I am a software developer, and have been in the industry for years. Hosting a site, maintaining it and making it available to others is a bigger task than most think. I really can't even put into words what this place and these people mean to me. To say it has saved my life is not an exageration.

You and I have never really spoken, but I have such appreciation that you cared enough to make this place available to people like me.

I hope you understand what a huge service you are doing to Alanons all over the world, and can find peace in the fact that some people are , well... not good at appreciating what they have.

Take care of you my friend!

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John,

I have been in and out of this site for several years now. When I have been at my worst and could not get out to a f2f this place has been my lifeline.
When I went through my last pregnancy alone and scared the people here where my family and cheered me on every step of the way.
I shared my pain and truimph, and stories of my children with the people here. Something I would never do anywhere else on the internet. I even shared their pictures.
Without this place, this wonderful safe haven, I don't know what I would have done. Today, I am whole, happy and at peace (much of the timewink) largely becasue of this wonderful place you have provided for us.
If I live to be 200, I can never begin to repay you, for what you have done for me.


                           Lots of love and support

                                 Jeannie

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