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Threads of Disease


I haven't been on the board lately, a lot of ppl don't know me or my story, maybe my thoughts were jumbled or didn't express myself very clearly.
   I wrote the last thread after reading some ppl talking about whether addiction is a disease or not.  My Al-Anon pamphlets all tell me it is a disease.  It is a mental compulsion, sure for lots of A's I suppose their drug/drinking is a symptom for them.  We are all different.

I am ACOA, so for me I grew up to emotionally support & enable others, in turn neglecting my own emotions - I was a numb void.  If my mom was upset, I could feel it telepathically & I'd immediately be drawn to do anything I could to make her feel better.  

I have alcoholics/addicts in my family tree, also depression & other 'mental illnesses' run in the family as well.  Yes, I have been codie & sick over my mother, it is something I am working on, still. 
   When I wrote, 'I think we are more sick than the A's are' & 'we have a love disease' is only b/c that's how I perceive it.  For a while I was jealous of the A's, their 'problem' or wtvr anyone wants to call it, is straight forward...  they want to stuff their feelings, so they compulsively use to be numb & not deal, to wake up & have to do it all over again, just a little more b/c their tolerance goes up, so goes the vicious cycle, a slow suicide.

I don't like the feeling that I have to defend myself, so I'm trying to clarify what I wrote. 

I do feel like being ACOA, I have different issues, of course I realize many A's are adult children of alcoholics/addicts as well.

Truly, who cares who's sicker than anyone else, all I know after finding al-anon @ 17, now going on 39, I've been depressed & plagued w/ suicidal ideations over 25 yrs. 
   If anyone knows the book 12 Steps for ACOA's - I've exhibited every one of the emotions/reactions listed in ch 4, seriously, at one time or another, it was all me.  Lots of codependent issues! 
   I don't blame my mother, in fact I am grateful to her. In all this growth & therapy, I feel good about myself & in general I've been doing excellently as of late. Everything in life is one step to the other.
  
I can only help myself, change myself, control myself. I have no control over anything else.  Today I choose to love myself.

Again my al-anon pamhlets call addiction a disease, so we don't hate on them, they can't control it, it's a compulsion and it is a family disease, effecting everyone. 

I'd never make light of any disease & wouldn't compare addiction to cancer only insofar as, 'if a family member had cancer, you wouldn't stop loving them' like we are tempted to do when we first find Al-Anon...  we all come in wanting to 'fix' our loved one, when all we can do is fix ourselves.

Disease or not, refer to your pamphlets.  I'll end this post by giving the definition of disease from a Medical Dictionary (Harper Collins)...
 
disease - Any abnormal condition, affecting either the whole body or any of its parts, which impairs normal functioning.

In terms of what kind of disease alcoholism or addiction is, IMHO, I'd classify it as: congenital, hereditary, systemic, mental & organic.

take what u like & leave the rest!  Hope that made more sense, I was trying to reach out to some new to the Program, I apologize if I upset anyone.  I can honestly say, I have been one of the most screwed up people I've ever known & I've been working on emotional, mental balance most of my life.  Depression is so elusive & horrible, I couldn't imagine being addicted too, I feel like the depression is enough for me to deal with!

Hope everyone is well.

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((((Kitty))))


As an ACOA myself, I can totally relate to everything your post says.

I still have found myself sometimes saying that I actually have had points in my life where I so resented my A's because at least the drinking/drugs do actually work for them....if even a temporary solution.  I have even tried to get drunk myself and was so upset when it wouldn't work for me!!!  How's that for being honest!  I hated that they even had something that seemed to work for them ....I have found little that does work for my depression.

Somewhere along the lines, as you, my family seems filled with A's, drug addicts, mental illness .... you name it.

I still believe the answer is indeed my HP (God), and I will continue to take each day one day at a time and work my program to the best of my ability.

Love and Hugs,
Irish

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I grew up in an alcoholic, dysfunctional, very very abusive home.  I therefore did not see much wrong with the A when I met him. Of course I was not looking for the red flags. I think for me personally it has to be a real conscious effort to look for red flags. When I grew up I merely "survived" each day so I didn't learn how to seek out healthy environment.

I still dont' know that I exactly know what healthy is because I wouldn't expect anyone to be perfect.

I know for me personally my issues progressed as time wore on. I did a lot of work in therapy, really years of it.  Nevertheless I had lots of issues with relationships.

I still do.  Some days I can accept the A other days I just want to crawl out the door and hide in a cave.

I came to accept my family of origin and in some ways that helped. Nevertheless it isn't a conincidence that my A resembles many many of the issues that went on in my childhood. I feel when I get to grips with them I'll achieve more independence.

For me words are just words.  They are a way to describe what I feel.  If someone doesn't agree with my words that's fine.  It isn't a life or death struggle to get to consensus. I can have my ideas and they can have their's. If we don't agree I can certainly agree to disagree with them.

I also feel maybe its going to take me a lifetime to get to grips with my issues.  I have different issues on the horizon as i'm aging and each different challenge in my life brings up different things for me about my childhood, my codependence and my other issues. I work through them but stuff never stops coming up!!!

Maresie.

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Kitty, if my response offended you, I am truly, truly sorry.  Your post was such an interesting one, it invited discussion.  No need to feel you must defend yourself.  Never, never do that.  I always read your posts, and keep you, along with others, in my positive thoughts and prayers.  Keep us thinking!!!

With all sincerity, Diva

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((((Kitty))))))    ... i miss seeing ya  (()) Good to see .,  your taking care of yourself    (((BiGHuG tO yA)))

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