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Baby Safety & Detatchment


Hi- I'm new here.  My H is a problem drinker, who will go weeks with no issues then suddenly binge drink.  When he binge drinks he embarrasses himself, accidentally damages other people's property, etc.  He is never violent, though he does have drunk behaviors that can alarm me.  One of those is following me around then blocking my path and mumbling something like "Why are so....why are so?" over and over again.  The other concerning thing is that he has a tendency to fall without warning.  In the past, this was not a big deal since I started practicing detachment with love (still working on it).  I just let him lay where he fell.  But, I now have a newborn.  How can I keep baby safe??  He recently had a death in the family, and I know that this will likely cause the binge drinking episodes to become more common.

My mom suggested locking myself with baby in her nursery.  However, I feel that this might cause him to get angry, though I'm not sure because he has never been violent. He's had one episode since baby was born, and he fell.  Thankfully it was nowhere near her.  But, it's difficult to find a completely secure place for her since he can restlessly wander the house.  What do I do if he tries to pick her up??  Is this enough to call the police?  Will it make things worse?  

I cannot go to someone else's house, because I have no family or close friends where I live.  They are all 1000's of miles away.  A hotel room is tricky, because I'd need to bring my dog. H has let him out without closing the yard gate while drunk.  If I left for the night, then I'd be worried about my pup the whole time, especially since we live on a busy street.  

I know a binging storm is brewing, so I'm trying to prepare myself for when I return home.  I've come up with a specific plan on how to detach and let him deal with his consequences during drinking and hangover (which is isn't many since his work is so flexible).  I am focusing on making my life and my little baby's life as happy as possible.  I will soon attend Al-Anon meetings.  I'm excited (odd as it sounds) to put this new thinking into practice when I get home.  I was doing well with detachment until  I got pregnant, then I let his behavior get to me. 

Any advice on how to keep baby safe and how to ignore him when follows me around/makes it impossible to sleep is appreciated?



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Forgot to mention that H refuses to get any kind of help. He thinks this is acceptable guy behavior.

We've been together for 10 years, and he's only had this problem in the last 3 years after we moved to another state.

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Welcome Mary'smommy congrats on your newborn little girl. I wish you both much health, happiness and joy.

Living with the disease of alcoholism is indeed a trying and baffling challenge. I am glad that you have decided to attend Al-Anon meetings as it is here that you will get the support and tools you need in order to cope with this dreadful disease. Detachment is a wonderful tool and it is great that you have implemented it as best you can.

Attending meetings, breaking the isolation caused by living with the disease and receiving the support and understanding from like-minded members is a wonderful enriching tool that helps us to live life on life's terms. Al-Anon meetings provide such an environment.

We don't give advice because we believe that the answers for each of our lives is different, and can be found within each person. I suggest that you pray about the situation,ask  for guidance and try to listen to the small voice within.

I understand your dilemma and I do believe that I would keep him out of the babies room, if possible, and if things get to confrontational I would call the police Every situation is different, so that is what I have done, but I do suggest that you listen to the voice within and speak tto your partner and take your own actions.

Keep  coming back.  There is hope 



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Thanks, Hotrod. I do think her room and crib (though I rarely use them now) is the safest place for her while he is drinking. Her playpen and bassinet are likely not as stable in case he was able to get near her and fall.

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Just wanted to let you know you are not alone. I have a 4 month old and make my H mad when I won't let him hold her while he's drunk. Prayers for you.

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I'm so sorry you're in this situation.  One thing to think about might be the longterm plan.  As you probably know, unless the drinker decides to enter and work a formal program of recovery, the drinking won't stop, and in fact will get worse rather than better.  It sounds as if you are already walking on eggshells during these episodes, and you have a little one to protect.  You may not be able to take greater steps right away, but maybe you can start taking steps now so that you have more options down the line - a place of your own to retreat to, or friends who might take you in when things get insane at home, or money stashed away, or a place you can go where you can take your dog...  Not everything can be in place right away, but down the line more so. 

It does sound worrying about him falling, and the fact that he does not really know what he's doing during these episodes.  Please do protect your little one.  That was when I decided to split up from my A - one day when he endangered our toddler and I realized that it was a miracle that our little boy was not killed.  The scales fell from my eyes that day and I realized that all the good will and love in the world (and my A does love our boy) is worth nothing when the alcohol is in control.  I hope some good options will be clear soon.



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Welcome to MIP marysmommy! Congratulations on your new baby girl and I too wish you and all much happiness. I love that you show excitement about the program and learning new ways to deal with the chaos and insanity of living with this disease. That's a lovely attitude to have when facing recovery and will take you far.

A couple of great tools that came to mind with your post are living in the present day and staying focused on the here and now. Before recovery and working this program, I always projected into the future on what may happen, what could happen and then planned accordingly. Well - the biggest issue with that is we have absolutely no idea what tomorrow may bring, so dealing with today is recommended.

This program helps us to better understand the disease, how it progresses and how we can change our thinking, actions and reactions to find peace/joy/serenity no matter what another is or is not doing. The program also suggests we not consider making any major changes until we've been around for a while, exceptions include risk of harm/injury through abuse or neglect. We also learn in the program how to establish boundaries for our own sanity and protection, and these combined with detaching with love will help you and your baby stay safe.

For me, through the fellowship and local support, I have Plan B, C & D in place in case I ever felt the need to remove myself or my children. They are 24 and 22 now and I never had to deploy. But knowing I had options and plans for our protection brought me peace of mind. Take good care of yourself and baby and know that you are not alone and there is always help and hope!!

Keep coming back!

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Thanks for both those replies. I've known addicts, and I honestly don't think my husband is one....yet. I think he's using alcohol inappropriately to deal with his issues, and that is a very slippery slope. Even if he doesn't want to get help for his problem drinking, I believe that going to a grief support group would help him to deal in a healthy way. I am going to suggest that when his sober/not hungover. He'd likely be open to that rather than a counseling situation. But anyway, my focus is no longer on him. It's on me and baby.

I do have a plan in place in case I need to leave. My mom gave me her airline credit card in case I need to fly home. My dad just opened a savings account with my name on it. I can stash extra money that I make there. I am also planning on meeting with an attorney in my state of residency, so I am armed with the info about custody and property. I'm not ready to leave. There is currently too much good, but there is always the chance that won't be the case.

My other reason for not leaving is custody. If I left, I could see his drinking spiraling out of control. While my sober H would never be nasty, my drunk H could be. He might make it difficult for me to move home with baby. Drunk H would probably love seeing me stuck in a place where I didn't want to be. Also, I do not want to keep baby away from sober H. We have a realistic chance of going back to my home state in two years (work situation). At that time, I will evaluate the situation. If he has not made positive change, then it's time to leave.  What's so interesting when we are back home (it's mine, not his), he does not binge drink at all.  In fact, he never acted this way when we lived there.   

Of course, if things get out of control before we move, then I will have no choice but to leave. I've created a secret e-mail where I can e-mail myself all the incidences and nasty text messages he sends when drunk. This way I do not run the risk of him finding it anywhere. When I married him, I'd never imagined I would be doing this in a million years. But, I now have to protect myself and baby. His family has money, so they would be able to put up a legal fight. This is why documentation is so important.

Another thing that has helped me SO much is not creating daily plans around him when his triggers for binge drinking are present. He is always my Plan B. Example: he goes to bar to watch a game on Saturday early afternoon. I used to make evening plans to spend time as a couple. Then, he'd show up drunk and I would be so hurt. Now, my Plan A would be order MYSELF a pizza, put on MY favorite cheesy movie, etc. If he happens to come home sober, then great, he can join in. If he's drunk, then oh well.



-- Edited by marysmommy on Wednesday 22nd of June 2016 01:58:34 PM

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I just want to add that my A was a binge drinker too (and still is).  Months with no problem, so that I would get complaisant and believe him when he said he finally had it under control and it would never happen again.  Then boom!  He would argue that he was not an alcoholic because "Alcoholics are those guys who drink every day and I'm not like that!"  But really alcoholics are the ones who cause bad effects from the drinking and keep on drinking anyway.  Whether your A has a compulsion who knows, but anyone who sends abusive drunken messages and falls around the house in a way that might endanger his baby is definitely causing bad effects from the drinking.  I'm glad you have backup plans.  Maybe you can also find a friend who would take in the dog for a little bit if it came to it.  Take good care of yourself!



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Marysmommy,

Welcome to the Board. I just want to lend my support. You seem to have a good handle (as much as you can) on the situation and backup plan. I am sorry that you have to go through this with a newborn. I am a mother to two small kids and I know what the stress is like when you are trying to take care of little ones. I would suggest face to face meetings if you aren't going yet. These were tremendously helpful in my recovery. My AH was a functioning one until his disease kicked into high gear last year. One day he was functioning and then one day he wasn't. I finally found this program when I was at my bottom. By getting out of the way and no longer enabling my AH drinking, he finally felt the full affect of his drinking and sought help. I pray that your AH finds recovery but in the meantime take care of you and your precious baby. Sending you prayers and positive thoughts.

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Marysmommy - great self-care to make plans for you, just you doing what you enjoy!!! I am one who loves a cheesy move + pizza!!! I also applaud your clarity in making your Plan B and beyond, as well as putting you and your baby first. Your processing sounds like mine in many ways and for what it's worth, I am still married and have my peace/joy/serenity in place. We have our moments where the disease raises the chaos and insanity, but my boys did get to grow up with their father in the home - and experience the good, the bad & the ugly.

No single solution or set of plans works for us all but putting ourselves first helps us focus on solutions vs. the behavior/actions of the qualifier. Keep coming back - you are not alone and this is a great place to process as needed!

(((Hugs)))

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