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at wits end


HELLO,

 

I am not sure how to handle my boyfriends alcoholism. We are both in our late 40's.  Throughout my adulthood I have done my share of drinking, was a bartender and have been exposed to but not been in relationships with people who have a drinking problem. so I am kind of lost here . He and I met through a mutual friend about a year and a half ago. When we first started dating, alcohol was a part of our social  life, most our friends are casual drinkers, we like to host barbeques , go to concerts or dancing etc. Nothing seemed really out of control. I would consider myself a casual drinker  The closer we became, spending weekends at each others houses  and such  I noticed that he drank  heavily on a daily basis ,on his way home from work , when he got home, just pretty much all the time except when he was working, Over time I realized how much of a problem it really is for him. He has recently opened up to me about his feelings, why he drinks ( Stress, money problems, not wanting to feel emotions, to forget etc) At that point I mentioned therapy . He is seeing a psychiatrist and has been on several meds but none seem to help him with his depression, He hasn't had therapy, just someone to prescribe him medication, . I also want to mention that he was sober almost 4 years about 10 years ago. He attended meetings daily for the whole time period but told me his then  wife/family stopped being supportive of him going to meetings after almost 4 years and surely he could miss a couple here and there since they interfered with family functions, son's softball games ,vacations etc etc  since the first thing he did when in a new place was to look for AA meetings , he seemed to be resentful of his waning family support  and eventually he slipped back into drinking,

Back to the present time His drinking had become repulsive to me, constant beer breath, his drink of choice btw,, sloppiness, forgetting whole events and conversations. I brought it up to him about 6 months ago, he admitted to me that yes he had a problem but he wasn't ready to  quit drinking at this particular time. I told him I couldn't be with him or spend time with him if he was drunk.

For a while he made an effort to stay sober during the times we spent together, it was quite nice, then around Christmas time he had some sort of meltdown and went on a several day long binge, isolating himself, He has guns in his house and has mentioned "ending it all". I distanced myself from him as I couldn't bear to see him in such a state. We stopped dating per se but remained in contact.

Then the beginning of February without any prompting he decided to go back to AA. He was drunk for his first meeting but kept going and after a few meetings managed to get sober  He said he had to do it, his life was not working, he wanted to have a good life with me and it couldn't be while he was drinking.. I was very supportive during these times, I attended some meetings with him and gained a little more insight and was appreciative of what people had to share. I can honestly say it helped me in my own way. I was extremely happy and proud of him that he made the decision to gain sobriety and made it a point to tell him so and tell him how good he was doing....that lasted about 2 weeks. and he relapsed Hard... He told me he knew when he woke up that particular day  he was going to buy a bottle of vodka after the meeting. He was hoping there was something at the meeting that would cause him to not do it but his desire to drink was stronger.

Since then he has been drunk for the past 5 days, and I mean drunk 24 hours a day. In the few moments of clarity he has he tells me he wants to, needs to, has to and will stop drinking. Tells me he is trying. He is going to meetings twice a day but still drinks heavily. He tells me he needs my support, how much it helped him to stay sober the couple of weeks he manged. I told him I will support him when he decides to get and stay sober. Before this I tried to suggest everything I could think of to encourage him. We dug out all his old chips from years ago and he put then in his jeans pocket to always feel them . I took his vodka and poured it out but he just buys more. it is really sad. He still tells me constantly he wants to NOT drink and how he is trying... how hard it is and how he feels he failed himself  and everyone. I actually think I was the only one who knew he was trying to get sober, none of his friends /family members knew. He didnt want to tell them.,,,but to me going and buying vodka does not constitute trying. He thinks going to meetings is enough trying. I suggested to start the steps again since he seemed to jump right in the middle. One meeting I attended  they were addressing step 4.

He tells me he cant do it without me, how he needs and loves me, needs my support, but how can I support him if he is still getting drunk?. I don't have any access to Al Anon, the closest meeting is 65 miles + away. 

He texted me earlier today saying how he accidentally shot a hole in the ceiling while handling one of his pistols and forgot that he loaded it and how it could have been his head as many times as he held it to it. It really is a crazy situation. Should I involve his family, authorities, someone? I feel he is a danger to himself. I am so distraught. Last conversation we had I told him to leave me alone until he makes getting and staying sober a priority in his life. I told him I loved him and would support him once he made this decision but could not support him while he was still drinking, I told him I couldnt stand by and watch him destroy himself , that I was suffering and needed to distance myself from all this.

what do I do now. I have no support to help me with this. I am worried sick about him and I know he knows he needs to do this he tells me this over and over. He should probably go to a treatment center but cant afford it financially of course., I hope someone on this board reads this and is and can help me understand as to what I need to do to keep my sanity and what mistakes not to make. Please someone, if you have any experience with this ..I need help,,almost as much as he does I believe



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Aloha Tuf....It is tuff love that is needed in the disease of alcoholism which for me was mind and mood boggling.

Incidentally Alcohol is a chemical depressant by AMA description...if he is displaying depressive behavior one of the things he has to do...is stop drinking a chemical depressant and it doesn't take you to teach him.  If he has access to a computer he can search on line for information about "Alcohol...alcoholic...alcoholism" and get lots of information about what he is going thru.  The control and manipulation of this disease is crazy...Alcoholism is named, cunning, powerful and baffling and it certainly is.  I have never ever come up against or been involved in a disease that is insidious.  He's sick, knows he's sick, knows that he knows he is sick and needs to do what is necessary to save his own life yet makes you responsible for that happening.   He knew it before he met you and most likely he has heard your feedback before from former friend, family and wives.  

So what do YOU do?   You started learned about that when you made MIP...this is where people who have been where you are at reached out to others and said...I am at my wits end and I need help.  You will get lots of feedback and suggestions here which if you follow up on it will change your life...not his...yours.  Most of us are fellows in the Al-Anon family groups and I will suggest you go to the white pages of your local telephone book and find the hotline number there.  Call hat number and find out where and when we get together in your area and then come into our face to face meetings, sit down and listen and learn where we have been,  what happened and what it is like now for us. 

I was suffering and needed to distance myself from all this.   that is what you said...that is what you should do.  You know what is best for TufandTender and it is okay to follow up on the suggestions for TufandTender.   We are in support of TufandTender and her serenity and peace of mind; you've found family. 

What about him?  He already knows and has the experience on how to do that...for you; you didn't cause his alcoholism, you cannot control it and you will never be able to cure it.  Go find out where we meet in your area and keep coming back to MIP often.  Read the post from in the past and the responses.   I and you can and will get better.  Good sign on nick.    (((((hugs))))) smile



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thanks for your reply Jerry, thing is there are no Al Anon meetings within about 65 or so miles from here, thats why I came here. You're right, He knows what to do and it is up to him to do it.He didnt make me feel responsible he just asks for support. what does he mean I asked him and he said he needs a friend. I think he really thinks he is trying by going to meetings. Sigh...I just cant completely turn my back on him I feel. But I also know that he has to do this for himself first and foremost. Why does he keep asking for support I dont get it

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We have daily on line meetings here at MIP so check the face page for what time they are available and go participate or just still and listen which works well also.   Its okay to care and even to love.  I learned in my inventories that some things are innate like wanting to be considered loving and wanting to be loved in return.  We don't have to do anything special to have that need.  When I hooked that up to a person/spouse/family/friend who was altered by the disease it only came out one way...I gave and was rarely ever given back to.   Alcoholism doesn't verify the victim...it treats the victim the same way as the drinker and user only we do not have the anesthesia (yes alcohol is anesthetic also) to block out reality therefore we go thru the insanity wide away while they are often blacked out.

Good on you being here.  Find out when the meetings are for you...join in and keep coming to the board often.   (((((hugs))))) smile



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