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Dysfunctional Co worker


Hello all - it's been a long time. I started a new job in October and it's been so busy, it's construction and excellent experience. I just hired a student to help in the afternoons which is great. I need all your experience strength and hope. 

The President's 81 year old mother works there, she is just like the alcoholic. She micromanages me stands next to me to tell me to change a check number when I am right in the middle of payroll or other important functions. I have spoken with the President and the Vice President. The President does not want to fire his mother. The Vice President can't do much. They both told me just to tell her to leave me alone, I have tried that yesterday and Friday, it does not work. I am thinking of the next time, just getting up and leaving the office. I have asked her over and over to put questions and requests in my in box, she stands next to me. The other employee's put requests in my in box. 

I am to the point of updating my resume and putting it out there. Other than getting up and leaving while she is standing next to me, has anyone else used any other methods to get rid of a sick co worker?

HELP, she works monday wednesday and friday so I have some peace today, tomorrow is payroll. 

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I haven't had an experience like this, so nothing to share other than a suggestion to pray for guidance and wisdom. At 81, she probably isn't going to change and might even think she doesn't have much of a purpose in life anymore? I'm not a mind reader, but I do remember many of my loved ones as they became more seasoned and started questioning why they were still here when it didn't seem like people wanted them around anymore.

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Hi grateful and thank you, this goes beyond that with severe control issues, I can assume they are probably worse due to age, I started praying last night....thank you for the post.

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I have not had this experience but I feel that since she is the Mom of the President of the Company that anything I can do to accommodate her requests would be beneficial to my working environment.

I would treat her with courtesy and respect and try to work around her interference. Good Luck

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Hotrod I have tried, she makes it almost impossible for me to do my job. Every time the phone rings she asks me who called, it's not that kind of situation, I wish it was. I am doing the work of three people. I have tried to work around her and it is not possible. There are payroll deadlines and I have lots of requests that have to be done. I am not willing to work 6 days a week, i also make mistakes when I am constantly interrupted.

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Hotrod, thank you for your post, I wish it was that easy.



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It has been helpful to me when with people who are operating out of anxiety or fear to simply let them be where they are and to do my best to avoid letting my need to control get in the way of seeing the person with compassion and understanding. That doesn't mean I have to let them walk all over me, but I can choose to do what they ask without argument if they are in a position of authority. I don't have to agree with their way of seeing things but I can still do what they ask because it saves me a lot of grief. If I'm not being asked to do something that is dishonest or hurtful to myself or others, I figure I don't have anything to lose just to do what they ask.

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Sounds as if there are other issues involved and if they were addressed might make this issue less distracting. Doing the job of 3 people and not having the privacy of your own office makes performing your tasks more of a challenge Maybe requesting a private office would help since working payroll is a private personal matter.

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When I first started working here, I had compassion, this person is not my supervisor. When she showed me how to put the toliet paper on the roll in the bathroom and forbade me to take anything out of the microwave early, I knew she was sick. I have addressed this issue with management. They let me hire a student to come in the afternoon and help me. They hung me out to dry with the mother and told me "just to tell her" This is not working.

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If she is 81, there could be a component of dementia that is causing her to act this way. She probably fears she is losing control of her life and is desperately trying to just hold on to what she has. Putting suggestions in writing may be beyond her capabilities . I know fro my experience with my parents and aunts that people with dementia are very good at covering up and avoiding things they can no longer handle. That does not make it any better for you of course but it does make it more understandable. And her son may also be conveniently not seeing her deterioration because he does not want to.

Is there any way you could remove yourself physically and do the work elsewhere? That would be difficult I know but it might be an answer. Because a son is not going to fire him mom.

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I can relate a little with this, I work in a dementia wing and people say and do some pretty interesting things employees and residents. I know they are sick and I do not take it personally and I mean both. I have been groped, cursed at, swung at and more, but I always treat them with love and care, because they are sick and can't help it. Having an al-anon program has helped me to not get flustered in the heat of it, because so many people are sick and can't control what they are doing, but I can control how I respond. I don't let the things that happen get under my skin and stay cool and calm and continue doing whatever my current task to the best of my ability. I used to get flustered so easily and never imagined I would be like this in constant insanity. Some of the employees there do take what is yelled at them personally and I can't understand that, but not everyone can detach from sick people and let it go. Someone used to say when it came to their alcoholic they envisioned sick, sick, sick, written on their forehead and that has helped me with some employees who don't seem healthy. I hope this helps and if not do the next right thing for yourself. Sending you love and support!

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The office is an excellent idea, there is an empty office and I am going to suggest that.

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Great Let us know how it works out

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Bless you, BF. It takes people like you to work with people in varying stages of mental decline. I was impressed with the nursing staff and their assistants at my Dad's ALF where there was also a lockdown unit for Alzheimers and a lockdown health unit for rehab. When I went there, I could feel the true compassion and understanding of people there. They were truly loved by their caregivers - from the maintenance crew to the Director. And they had to deal with all us family members, too! Wonderful place. You would have been a caregiver that I would have done all I could to support and thank from the bottom of my heart.

And Robin, if this gal is experiencing control issues due to her mental decline and trying to cover it up, I know how difficult that can be.  Many prayers for you and much support of you, too.



-- Edited by grateful2be on Tuesday 27th of January 2015 09:47:05 AM

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thanks breaking free, continuing to do my task and ignore her along with asking for my own office are the two things I am going to try right now, thanks all and more comments are certainly welcome.

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I understand everyone's compassion for the elderly, it breaks my heart that this woman has nothing in her life but coming to an office when she could enjoy retirement and get care. She does not visit a doctor, she has wrecked her car numerous times and should not be driving.

I guess i have to make the decision as to whether I am going to stay in this job or not. It is a very unusual situation.

I am trying to work my program and take care of me and not care take others, it's not my job to take care of this situation.

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It sounds like there are dynamics (family and medical) here that will not change.  I love my dad and I understand his dementia, yet I could not live or work with him.  It is unfair of the family to not deal with the issues that are making your job difficult, but they probably wont, so your sanity falls within the courage to change the things you can.  I love the idea of the empty office and it wouldn't hurt to stick your toe in the other possibilities for employment, either.  There is not commitment in looking or even interviewing.  Good lucksmile



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I responded to you while other facts were being posted. I agree that it sounds like a very difficult arrangement for you and the President actually is letting his Mom be the boss. I do hope, if you like your job, that a private office can be arranged for you. I remembered that actually I have worked in one family owned situation and was fired because the son hired me when his Dad (in his 80s) was on vacation. His Dad wanted somebody older and made my life difficult in ways I could never understand. The son had the good decency to tell me the problems had nothing to do with me and the reason why he had to let me go. He couldn't stand up to his Dad either. Even if he tried it, Dad would have walked right over him anyway. He wanted his way - even though he and his son were equal partners of their agency - and he was going to do everything he could to drive me out of the job (which didn't work) or harangue his son until he got his way. Lots of prayers for you in this, Robin.

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Thank you all for your support, it means more than you know.

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In my opinion, it sounds like her son is very codependent with her. He is probably afraid to rock the boat and make her retire. My soon to be ex MIL is 92. She is very set in her ways. Sounds similar to this coworker. Not easy to deal with. I thought of something that might keep her busy....get her a big gift basket with a bunch of stuff in it. Maybe she will go into another room and look through it forever and stay away form you for a bit. lol Or get her a good book to read? But if she is like my MIL, she will then come to you and complain about everything in it!! My MIL even complained about a Christmas card I sent her. Not easy. Getting up and walking away should help...you would think!

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Oh, and maybe a private office would help...then you could lock the door too!

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I have tried giving her gifts as my husband brought gifts back from Spain when he went for work, she would not take the gift. There are lots of things going on besides being old, I believe some abuse, I don't know how long she has beeen alone, i have been told she tried to get others fired. The office is a great idea, I am also going to ignore her.

I will pray for everyone today, please pray for me as I have payroll, 3 year end tax returns to get into the mail and one to file online and two audits for Worker's Comp insurance which I will be working on today. It will be a tough day, I got most of it completed yesterday. I have two desks, one of them has a wall between us. When I talk on the phone I am going to talk on the phone where she can't see and hear me, that will eliminate her asking "who was on the phone" it will also eliminate her seeing me and asking questions. I am hoping all this will help Thank you all for your support.

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Keeping your eyes on your goals and staying on task, removing yourself from earshot, and ignoring her much like we might ignore a spoiled kid when they keep pushing to get their way on something and we've already said what we mean, meant what we said and not said it mean might be a big help to you in this situation?  Nobody can get my attention if I choose not to give it.  They can't knock me off course if I don't let them.  I've worked with many a difficult person and I've learned they are not in charge of what I do or don't do no matter how snarly or controlling they might be.  Unless they have a gun in their hand and they're pointing it at me, they can become like irritating gnats to me.  If I focus on me and what I want to accomplish, even the gnats' flying about my face or body are no longer noticed by me.  I'm willing to be present only to myself and what I am supposed to be doing.  Drives others crazy sometimes and that's on them.  Not on me.  They go away eventually because they can't get a rise out of me.  They're just not that important.



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grateful2be, awesome advice and I will keep that close to me today, I appreciate you so much. I just talked to my boss who has not been here and he is going to help too. Also, I hired a student to help me in the afternoons and the boss is very happy about that. Keep in touch. :)

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Keep us posted, sister.

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Manipulate and control those are the names of the games, today both bosses are here so DC is leaving me alone.....go figure

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I know how hard it can be to be patient and at the same time keeping your mouth shut so not to disturb the apple cart. I have some problems at my work and got into it with a co-worker last week. I won in the end but it didn't make me feel any better. All I can do it take it one day at a time in hopes things will get better as I apply different tactics and/or just let go.

Hang in there and just give her the look and she might back off

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I have a similar situation as my parents are too old to work and keep on. IF you have time put out a few resumes and contacts///at best it will reassure you that you are in a good spot and it's worth it. Business is business and the owner of the company should deal with this, but I'm not in his shoes and I can't even  deal with my 82 year old dad who continues working. It's a type of selfishness and lack of self esteem in my family, but I luv him anyway!



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Thanks glad and everyone who responded. This co worker gave me a message today from the bank that called. She asked me twice if I called the bank back, I just ignored her. Her games continue, I was allowed to hire a student to help me, no one informed her of this new worker, that's because they are just hiding their head in the sand and don't want to deal with her LOL. She is a part time worker and hung around today until the student got there and her son was forced to introduce her. She is slowly being pushed out, but she is 81 and needs to go.....thanks again for all the support, it is much needed. One day at a time and today was good, she won't be there tomorrow.

Another funny story, one of the Electrician Foreman came into the office, he is a long time employee actually a recovering alcoholic and a hoot. She feels like she has to control him as well. So...she shuffled around him, he looked at me and said "well I guess it's better than the alternative" we both got a good laugh. Later she got stuck in the restroom, couldn't get the door open and he went and got the door open. I don't think I am the only one who thinks this old lady should be put out to pasture. It was pretty funny.

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Today I have to deal with the co worker again, I have to finish up year end tax filings and get month end bills paid, pray for me to not pay attention to her....and have a good day, looking forward to the weekend, the serenity prayer will help.

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I had a thought as I read your request for prayers, Mercedes. It has been helpful to me in situations where I feel some animosity or other forms of distress or dis-ease to ask my HP to help me see the other person as my HP sees them. Sometimes, it is good to refuse to let another person knock me off course when it comes to being myself and doing what is mine to do. Sometimes, it is good to let my HP help me see the other person through new eyes. When I can do that, I sometimes see a whole new way to proceed that is more helpful to me and results in more serenity for me and acceptance of the other person as they are, too.



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The old saying, we teach people how to treat us is so true, I have set up some boundaries, they are working today. Today and just for today, I am being asked nicely and respectfully for help instead of someone standing next to me and demanding I stop what I am doing to help them. Today, this is really working, I am taking care of me.

and grateful, thank you for your words of wisdom, I have accepted the other person for who they are....the owners have let me hire a student to help me do things that need to be done, the things that my co worker refused to pitch in and help do....

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Things are much better for me at work, thanks again to everyone. I have learned how to teach others to treat me, I am so grateful for this program.

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Thanks for the update.  I agree.  The program certainly does work if we work it.



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Today left for lunch, came back in to the office unexpectedly and found the co worker hovering over my desk. I asked her if I could help her. She said no. hmmmmmm

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Mercedes, I'm sorry to read that things are going back to status quo with your elderly coworker. It is nice that things seemed to change for a while but as we all know, change takes time and effort and usually just goes back to the way it was quickly.

I do believe exploring that private office for yourself is really your best bet. Working on numbers and taxes requires a quiet environment and asking for that unused office not unreasonable.

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Robin, I know this might not be the most..er...al-anon idea but i had a similar situation when i was working in a cafe as a cook. The owner was a young male and his elderly mother came in to "help" in busy times. She was all over me and it was upsetting and as my concentration was interrupted by her interference i would make errors and she would seize on them almost gleefully, a very annoying situation. I found it extremely difficult for a few weeks and then i tried a new tactic, forgive me because it's a little bit sneaky but I started being super-enthusiastic and friendly and talkative. I asked for her help with a lot of menial jobs too. She didn't like it very much and started going to work in another area and left me alone to do my job.

I hope you can secure your own office, that would be better of course.



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I am working on the private office. Miss Meliss, I did do that and it backfired, I had her in my face all the time as she is a very lonely woman, I couldn't get anything done, the micromanaging got worse. She is not a team player and views herself as a manager, she manages nothing but none the less, I started getting comments from her such as, "why don't you do that yourself? or Patti used to do that....Patti used to water some plants, I don't have time to do it, so I had to put them outside otherwise grandma would pour water all over the floor and I couldn't get into my work space. The ignoring her is working so far....

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Today, I am going to have lunch with a friend who is coming in town, taking some time away from work....taking care of me...

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