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When you date someone who is a recovering from something


And they tell you I am an alcoholic or a recovering addict, why do they tell you? What are they really saying?

" If you stick with me I may relapse, I may slip? Are you gonna stick with me and give me your all? Can you enable me?

Why do they come forth and tell you who they are on the very first meeting or date?

LinSC



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I've never met anyone who says they are an alcoholic or recovering addict on a first date, so I have no experience in this. If I did hear that, I guess that I'd be grateful that the person was upfront with me. I would know how to proceed from there.



-- Edited by grateful2be on Monday 27th of October 2014 10:03:52 PM

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My guess is that they mean, "Here's a significant factor and if you're going to reject me because of it, you should know it now and not after we've become entangled in a big romance."  Also, "There's a big thing about my past but I'm not ashamed of it, I want to be straightforward."  That is, if they're healthy.  If they're not healthy, they could be saying it for all kinds of manipulative reasons.  So the key would still be to keep watch for whether they seem to be emotionally healthy.



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Hi Lin,

I had this experience and can share with you. My bf told me he was in recovery the first time he met me because he said he wanted to be up front and honest with me about himself. He told me that his recovery came first before anything else and went on to further explain to me that it had to. He explained to me that he needed to go to AA meetings to keep sober and anyone who would be with him long term would have to understand that those meetings would be a priority in his life and sometimes a priority over other plans if he felt he needed to be at an AA meeting for the sake of keeping his sobriety.  He told me, "If you don't want to get to know me now that you know I'm an alcoholic, I understand but I need you to know this right at the start."  He went on to tell me there were no guarantees concerning sobriety and that he was trying to take things a day at a time and concentrate on just the 24 hours he was presently living in. He was sober 3 months at that time. I was in Alanon 13 years but I let him talk and I listened before telling his about myself.

I told him I was very glad to hear that he was in recovery and congratulated him on his sobriety.  I told him, "I'm glad recovery is the first thing in your life because it's the first thing in my life."  I went on to tell him I'm in Alanon. I told him Alanon is my way of life and as long as he was serious about recovery, I could take him seriously. If he wasn't, I couldn't be bothered. We agreed to get to know one another the same way we were getting to know ourselves in recovery - a day at a time and see what hp's will was for us. More than four years later, we're still taking it a day at a time.

Today, my bf is a doublewinner. He works both AA and Alanon.  He tells me Alanon helps him to better understand the family's feelings concerning the harms he caused when he drank.  He also says it helps him to identify what he's feeling as sober person who's feelings are no longer being numbed by alcohol. He's also uses Alanon tools when interacting with family members who are still actively drinking.

Thanks for your question.  This is just my experience.  I hope it helped with your question.  (((hugs))) TT

 

 

 

 



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Alcoholism/ addiction is a progressive and deadly disease unless the person abstains and works a strong recovery program. I've dated men that have told me on the first date as a courtesy and in an effort to be open and honest about themselves and their struggle. Being in recovery is personal, but something that someone may want to know early on- this gives an opportunity to 1) choose if they want to explore a potential relationship and learn about what that means to be in recovery and how it can affect relationships, or, 2) opt to not date that person.




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That is a "best case" explanation which you have just shared TiredT and WOW...that is how it is supposed to work when the programs are working.  Good for you both cause everything is working because it is being worked and I can just feel HP's satisfaction. 

From my experience in listening with others I believe that quite often when a recovering person mentions up front to a relationship that they are in recovery it is because saying it is important on many levels hopefully most all legitimate.  I like the idea or the thought that it would be mentioned to help explain early behaviors from the program person.  Being in recovery causes differences in what can sometime be expected as "normal' behaviors and often Program behaviors are not "normal" to others.  I was in my credit union taking care of an issue and after talking with one of the loan officers in her office suddenly we were on the subject of crises communications (don't know how we got there and don't know if I steered it hmmmm) any how I asked her how she communicates during crises and she said that she just shuts up to which I responded that the greater amount of communication is not verbal and body language.  "Even if you don't speak your body will"; also I said that too often it what said isn't what we say and how we say it.  I asked her if she knew about "detachment" and she didn't so lightly I gave her some of my experience on learning and practicing detachment, being able to participate with a person who might present the opportunity to be in crises and being able to participate and not in the crises.  She smiled and then laughed..."How do you do that"?  I told her it was different programming and not where I learned it.   In short she was listening to "different responses" from a person recovering from something.   No I didn't ask her out for a date...I'm detached from that now.   lol    (((((hugs))))) smile 



-- Edited by Jerry F on Monday 27th of October 2014 11:21:03 PM

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Hi, im ot sure why they would tell you. If they are workjng the steps then may e its part of doing the right thing, being open and honest or it could be that they want you to admire them. I would be thinking, thanks for letting me know but see you. Thats my issue though, I dont think il always feel that way. Still go5 some healing to do before I can take people completely on who they are in the moment. Ive been crazy, now im not so much so I suppose we all have a past.

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I told people that off the get go. There are several reasons:

1. Most or many first dates, the person will suggest "meeting for drinks" in which case I would say no and then why because, I didn't want them to keep suggesting it and me shoot the idea down repeatedly with excuses.
2. I spend lots of time going to AA. It's important. It is where I know lots of my friends from.
3. Recovery is a giant part of my identity and something I tend to daily. If I had to "hide it" or not be up front about it in any way, it would be giving alcohol power to sneak back up on me. I give more power to AA and my HP and less to the disease and it works out well that way for me.
4. Being in recovery is my strength and not my weakness and it turned that way after a year or two sober. It was my strength then too, but I wasn't so eager to admit I was in AA, when I had less than a year sober.
5. It is the longest I've ever stuck with anything in my life at this point...
6. People sometimes as "Why don't you drink?" because they do it on first dates and getting to know each other....I don't feel like lying or sugar coating. If I say 'I don't like it" or "I don't want to" that is a watered down version of the truth. I would actually say frequently "because I am an alcoholic and it messed up my life for a long time."
7. There is nothing shameful about being in recovery or about having a problem. It's a shame when you have a problem and do nothing about it.
8. It's good for my recovery to be transparent. Any time I start trying to be something I'm not, I slip back into old character defects that are not good for me. Would it be manipulative to tell someone I am an alcoholic in recovery right away? Maybe, but in my case - It's MORE manipulative not to.

Hope this helps. I wanted to state 12 reasons to be cute, but I crapped out at 8 :)

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I would be grateful for their honesty...maybe they are thinking  "ok, i am gonna tell them now so if i am gonna be dumped or this is a deal breaker, best to find out now b4 i get attached"    i would thank them for their share and for me??? i would let it go...I would just gently tell them that  alcoholism wrecked so much of my life, i just cannot do it again......thats me....i would never knowingly get involved w/anyone recovering from substance abuse or anything that is gonna cost me financially, either......it just is purchasing trouble......sounds tough, but if i don't take care of me/protect me, noone else is gonna.....

i applaud this person for their honesty....they probably just want to be accepted as is and "this is what u r getting into"  good on them being honest...



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Lins,

As someone navigating the dating world I have found this also. I have entered into the scary world of online dating and some of the men I have been messaging back and forth have stated their activity in a recovery program prior to even meeting. I always that them for their honesty. Depending on the length of time we have been messaging/known each other I may or may not disclose my history with alcoholism/addiction as the exwife of an alcoholic.

Maybe I'm in a different place, but I don't wonder what it is they want from me when they tell me that. Their intentions or motives are not mine to own. I own how I respond to this information. If they are looking for an enabler they quickly learn that this is the wrong woman. Most people want to meet over coffee or a drink. Someone telling me that they are in recovery to me means that they just don't want meet for drinks and they are probably feeling me out. Someone in recovery dating a drinker isn't the best for their recovery.

In the end what you do with that information is up to you.

Amanda



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So interesting you brought this up. When my AH and I were dating he told me in a roundabout way "by the way (so and so) says I'm an alcoholic". This was a person he lived with. I asked him why this person said that about him and he said he didn't know(lol) but that he went to AA many years ago.
This was one of MANY first red flags that I ignored. I think he told me as a warning, but couldn't admit it himself. Total denial.

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