My feelings on MIP change - Al-Anon Family Group

Debilyn · ~*Service Worker*~

My feelings on MIP change

SerenityRUS · ~*Service Worker*~

I agree Deb ..

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Well said Deb

Temple · ~*Service Worker*~

I agree with Debilyn.
Would not want the board to change.
It ain't broke; please don't try to fix it.

Hugs,
Temple

DavidG · ~*Service Worker*~

smile Good thread Debilyn. This is a great group and fairly large. it works well and sticks fairly close to Alanon principals.

I don't really attend the chat meetings. But i feel that they are really just different meetings of the same group. To have to run them as separate entities, I feel would be wrong...

Concept 4.

Participation is the key to harmony.

PP · ~*Service Worker*~

I agree, Deb.

Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

Please don't change

Breakingfree · ~*Service Worker*~

I agree with Debilyn and why chance ruining such a beautiful site I have attended for years! I have left other sites because it gets so stringent and controlled, we love each other here and share great ESH, we have great moderators and all is well as I see it!

KennyFenderjazz · ~*Service Worker*~

Agreed. As BF said, there is a lot of love and patience shown here, in fact if is a site more governed by love than rules, and really appreciate it.

Kenny

Temple · ~*Service Worker*~

I wonder that there haven't been more responses to this thread.

Is posting on here enough? Do we need to email John or post at the top of the board to register our "votes?"

T.

-- Edited by Temple on Sunday 27th of July 2014 11:34:29 AM

-- Edited by Temple on Sunday 27th of July 2014 11:35:01 AM

Newlife girl · ~*Service Worker*~

I agree

likemyheart · ~*Service Worker*~

There is also a post regarding the issue with very good information about the decision at this link (I hope) Its a lot of reading but worth the time. http://meetinginfo.activeboard.com/t57236795/wso-registration-procedure-group-liaisons-findings/ Yea! I posted the link correctly, new skill, chalk that off my list for today!

-- Edited by likemyheart on Sunday 27th of July 2014 12:25:33 PM

gingerfizz · Veteran Member

I read the wealth of info John and others have taken the time to provide, I think this site is a wonderful resource as is, and if it ain't broke don't fix it. I just emailed my vote in hopes that if nothing changes, nothing changes ;)

John · ~*Service Worker*~

While I agree with the premise of what has been shared, I feel it is important to remember, that this board says "Al-Anon" all over it and while we don't want to be under any tight reins, as a group, we are not representing any other cause or organization here. We represent the name "Al-Anon", and therefore we present Al-Anon here. If this is not our primary purpose and focus, this board could be called "Whatever Anonymous". It isn"t and should never, ever qualify for such a open, roomy, broad scope. We are Al-Anon, and yes we should speak Al-Anon here. If we want to throw in a twist, that is not Al-Anon, we need to let it be known..."I would recommend this book...blah, blah, while it is not Al-Anon endorsed or approved by the world conference, was a good read and it helped me a lot." This way we are presenting something to someone but we clarify that its a personal suggestion. Not something being held out to them by Al-Anon, or by the Al-Anon program.

Please keep in mind that this may be the first threshold someone steps over in the new way of life Al-Anon offers and they need to be hearing Al-Anon. I have read over a 1000 books, that I would suggest to a variety of people, but when it comes to the newcomers, I point them to Al-Anon literature. "Oh, so the rage and anger, all that bundled up fear ruined a good friendship? Read page 54 and 55 of Al-Anon's Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions book, I have a few other suggestions that you might find helpful to read, but lets start there, and see if you can't find what you are looking for in those pages first, okay?" In short, let's get them plugged into Al-Anon before we start sending them in another direction and create confusion.

John

-- Edited by John on Sunday 27th of July 2014 05:47:45 PM

Cathyinaz · ~*Service Worker*~

I'm pretty sure that's what most of us do now. Like they say " if it isn't broke don't fix it.

One more on my end is I don't put all my eggs in one basket.....but Al-anon's basket has the most.

Take what you like and leave the rest

((( hugs )))

Jozie · ~*Service Worker*~

I too have to Agree with the Latter amounts here... I Goto Regular Al-Anon Meetings weekly, and I Still Manage to get just as Much if Not MORE Al-Anon from MIP... I Feel if this change is Made then there will be Alot of Peeps that will feel forced to choose another spot, and I know for Me, it will be tough not being able to just BE... without all the rules... I respect the idea but am in Complete agreement with "It if Isn't broke don't fix it" This has been a Home to Me for Over 5 years now, and I LOVE that we can be who we are, without feeling like we are breaking the rules of conduct... I Have always been one to Fear Change, but Forced Change really leaves a bad taste in my Mouth when it is something that has been such a Blessing for So Long... I Truly Hope things here "Remain the Same"....

Don't want to lose my MIP Family to change...

Jozie

Sweet Stanley · ~*Service Worker*~

Please keep it the same as it is....if my vote counts...This a comfortable site for me. I don't post often, but I do come on many times a week to just read and keep in touch.

mercedes1959 · Senior Member

It's all "much to do about nothing" If it isn't broke don't fix it.

grateful2be · ~*Service Worker*~

I completed the form that John created for us to sign and e-mail back to the address that he has given us. It is my understanding that our vote will be counted at the business meeting if we are not in attendance. To answer Temple's question, I didn't give my response at this thread because I responded at John's and sent my vote in. I figure I talk too much as it is. Smile.

PP · ~*Service Worker*~

You don't say too much! I voted, too.

KennyFenderjazz · ~*Service Worker*~

I'm sorry, I didn't see a form to fill out. Catherine, you are now qualified to post a permalink to the posting, right? wink

grateful2be · ~*Service Worker*~

Oh, Kenny! I would really love, love, love to do that and John has put a sticky note at the top of the board with the wording, etc and the steps to take to get our vote in before the business meeting. I certainly don't want to duplicate another member's work and this "no" has absolutely nothing to do with I don't remember how to do it. wink

Mimi3 · Senior Member

GREAT SHARE DEB!! THANK YOU, I FEEL THE SAME WAY!

Breakingfree · ~*Service Worker*~

I voted and hope everyone gets their vote in! I started out here at MIP and in al-anon reading books like Getting Them Sober and Codependent No More which are not CAL approved, I however still attend al-anon face to face meetings and have a sponsor and work a solid program and have come a long way! So with that said I don't understand how we can be sending people astray by giving them the ESH that worked for us and this is why Canadianguy left I can only assume, because people were having fits about Tony Rice Drews books or Melody Beattie being suggested, it's about taking what you like and what works for you and leaving the rest! The majority will rule and I sure hope that it doesn't take place!

-- Edited by Breakingfree on Wednesday 30th of July 2014 10:54:09 PM

mercedes1959 · Senior Member

Everyone in the business meeting has voted NO, I am wondering, "what is this all about". It's a rhetorical question.

hotrod · ~*Service Worker*~

Mercedes thanks for the update.
I was unable to attend the meeting but did submit my vote via email. I am pleased that the membership voted" no" on the issue.

John has supplied great detail on the subject and outlined the issues in the sticky at the top of the page. Here is the link alanon.activeboard.com/t58139214/group-conscious-issue-registering-with-afg-world-service-cen/

el-cee · ~*Service Worker*~

I think that was a good decision for the members here, it sounds like it would have been impossible to tick all the alanon boxes. I also think its important not to get into a them and us mindset. We all give esh that is based closely on the principles, its because of alanon that were here. Personally, I love alanon, its given me a new way to think, a better life. I feel so much better, if we could be a full alanon group with the same alanon rules, without all the red tape and hassle then I would vote yes, definately. It works, most of us know it works, why wouldnt we embrace it IF membership did not come with a change to the format of the forum?

Ps, cant believe a good guy like canadian guy would leave due to people having different opinions than him about books, sounds ridiculous to me.

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